European Bangladesh Forum slams China for Uyghur treatment

[VikingRaider]

No one said China is officially mass raping Uyghur woman but it’s happening as byproduct of China’s policy.

If it was your position then other than just ranting you should have made it clear long ago. Okay if that's the case, then no need to push further.

This is only a clear answer I needed.

 

[Bengal71]

This is the thing I just wanted to say, if you read my posts you will know, alongside asked solid evidence of state sponsored mass rape accusation by China on uighur women from this @Black_cats guy who created thread only because the name Bangladesh is involved.

At this point I just think you are being willfully ignorant.

 

[Beast]

Spain has beautiful beaches

So will Spain EU allow Catalonia to be independent , tell me? If not, why EU think they are on moral high ground to sanction China on HK and Xinjiang problem?

 

[Black_cats]

If it was your position then other than just ranting you should have made it clear long ago. Okay if that's the case, then no need to push further.

This is only a clear answer I needed.

So do you support China on “Be pair and become family” program. You have not made it clear what is clear to you.

 

[Beast]

oh is it???

India helps trained your Mukhti Bahini, concert are thrown to support your struggle by the Beatles ?? that's not help to you?? getting high now my guy??

I'm not forcing you or Bilal dude to support Uyghur or not, but it's kinda funny from my PoV seeing people just liberated from oppression suddenly throwing away statements which basically says not my Fukin problem, if you don't see it that way, then it's okay, just don't flaunt it around.

LOL.. Yes, your righteous is reserve for Uyghur only but others suddenly is not righteous for them to intervene on their behalf. So now, I know where your righteous stands.

There are plenty of crook mis using people emotion on the topic of righteous to serve their agenda. Being righteous is not important. Make use of you to hate others is their aim.

Really doubt striver44 is Indonesian, watch this dude all post, all is regarding China troll, never talk about Indonesia.

Perhaps a Indian with fake country flag.

He is american flying false flag braggin himself to be muslim and trying to toy with your emotion to do his bidding. Beware of such crook.

So do you support China on “Be pair and become family” program. You have not made it clear what is clear to you.

Doesnt believe Uyghur genocide side crap doesnt mean that is totally supporting China. China never ask you to choose me or you. The only one do that is US who say the famous, "Join me or you are terrorist! "

Typical tactics by extremist to ask people make a stand.

 

[VikingRaider]

So do you support China on “Be pair and become family” program. You have not made it clear what is clear to you.

I do not support if it's the policy of Chinese govt . My position on uighurs were well known from the beginning.

I already replied to you long ago that, "If han Chinese are really doing such works that are heinous acts".

But also I stick on my position that West should have sanctioned China since 2019, as the report you posted to @bluesky ( from there I read) was published in 2019 , so West also did heinous act by using the issue for their own evil agenda.

So if that's the fact , then West is accomplice , not saviour, period!

 

[Black_cats]

LOL.. Yes, your righteous is reserve for Uyghur only but others suddenly is not righteous for them to intervene on their behalf. So now, I know where your righteous stands.

There are plenty of crook mis using people emotion on the topic of righteous to serve their agenda. Being righteous is not important. Make use of you to hate others is their aim.

He is american flying false flag braggin himself to be muslim and trying to toy with your emotion to do his bidding. Beware of such crook.

Doesnt believe Uyghur genocide side crap doesnt mean that is totally supporting China. China never ask you to choose me or you. The only one do that is US who say the famous, "Join me or you are terrorist! "

Typical tactics by extremist to ask people make a stand.

I have nothing wrong against China except few of its oppressive and self Centre policies which is causing violation of human rights.

You need to ask why most of the Chinese neighbors has problem with it? The way you supported criminal Myanmar janta during genocide against Rohingyas nobody liked it.

Now this Uyghur genocide, mass rape and human right violation issue is ongoing for some time.

Most Bangladeshis have objections to China in these two aspects.

Other countries have issues with other policies of China like claiming entire South China Sea without respecting right of other neighbors. Policies related to Taiwan and Hong Kong.

Even mass scale human right violation against your own Chinese mainland people are there as well.

This is 21st century. Here you just simply you can not stop people to pray, choose religion, express opinion what they like, obstructing mass communication, wiping out culture of minorities etc.

No one said US policy is fair. Whole world protested when it was wrong.

But as I said before two wrong doesn’t make one wrong right.

 

[Bengal71]

I do not support if it's the policy of Chinese govt . My position on uighurs were well known from the beginning.

I already replied to you long ago that, "If han Chinese are really doing such works that are heinous acts".

But also I am stick on my position that West should have sanctioned China since 2019 as the report you posted to @bluesky ( from there I read) was published in 2019 , so West also did heinous act by using the issue for their own evil agenda.

So if that's the fact , then West is accomplice , not saviour, period!

In 2019 the moron of the millennium Trump was in power. It has changed now, you will see more actions. Also don't expect fast visible actions, west are cunning bastards, they will plan and plot and take time. End result will be it will make the uighur situation better even if it is a result of evil actions of the west.

 

[Beast]

Either you are intentionally trying pretend like an ignorant person or you are devoid of reality.

No one said China is officially mass raping Uyghur woman but it’s happening as byproduct of China’s policy.

China introduced a policy of “Be pair and become family” where China sends an official to stay with the families of the detained Uyghur male and he share the same bed with the Uyghur woman in the house as part of official policy.

Now you tell me what happen when two unrelated male and female share a same bed? Will you allow this to happen in your household?

I am sharing a more neutral source, an Irish news article on the program.

‘Become family’: China sends officials to stay with Xinjiang minorities

Uighur homestays by cadres extends surveillance to within the home, local Muslims say

www.google.com

You can find communist version of explanation of the program as well.

Is the 'Pair Up and Become Family' program designed to monitor ethnic minorities in Xinjiang?

Since 2016, an extensive ethnic unity campaign has been conducted among government officials and people of different ethnicities in Xinjiang.The officials leveraged their expertise to help local people explore ways to shake off poverty and address difficulties in their lives.

www.chinadaily.com.cn

Now it’s up to you to believe that Han Chinese males are sharing same bed with Uyghur woman’s and nothing is happening. But Uyghur woman are saying something different on this.

I rest my case here. I am a busy person not someone who has no job and can spend whole day in the forum like 50 cent armies as it’s their source of living.

Typical western tactics. When did pair up program become unrelated make and female share a same bed? From who, irishtimes? The han Chinese stay at their home and never on bed with others. No wonder some comment about you IQ. Is you received a guest and guest stay in guest room and sleep by himself. What is wrong with that?

First you quote irshtimes and then quote China daily.. Typical tactics to try make unrelated man sleep with unrelated woman on same bed as geuine...

 

[serenity]

Either you are intentionally trying pretend like an ignorant person or you are devoid of reality.

No one said China is officially mass raping Uyghur woman but it’s happening as byproduct of China’s policy.

China introduced a policy of “Be pair and become family” where China sends an official to stay with the families of the detained Uyghur male and he share the same bed with the Uyghur woman in the house as part of official policy.

Now you tell me what happen when two unrelated male and female share a same bed? Will you allow this to happen in your household?

I am sharing a more neutral source, an Irish news article on the program.

‘Become family’: China sends officials to stay with Xinjiang minorities

Uighur homestays by cadres extends surveillance to within the home, local Muslims say

www.google.com

You can find communist version of explanation of the program as well.

Is the 'Pair Up and Become Family' program designed to monitor ethnic minorities in Xinjiang?

Since 2016, an extensive ethnic unity campaign has been conducted among government officials and people of different ethnicities in Xinjiang.The officials leveraged their expertise to help local people explore ways to shake off poverty and address difficulties in their lives.

www.chinadaily.com.cn

Now it’s up to you to believe that Han Chinese males are sharing same bed with Uyghur woman’s and nothing is happening. But Uyghur woman are saying something different on this.

I rest my case here. I am a busy person not someone who has no job and can spend whole day in the forum like 50 cent armies as it’s their source of living.

I just read those links. The Chinese one tries to explain the rumor which the Irish one promotes.

The Chinese one recognize the program and explain it as a state sponsored social program to try and bring different background people together. It tries to deny the accusation from the Irish one.

The Irish one does not have a single source or reference. Who is this Liu party representative they use? Even she denies the allegations in the actual parts where she talks. The rest of the article explain the situation from the angle of the assumption already being true. Who is the Uighur person being quoted? Is there a single evidence of rape of Uighur women by these officials?

I think it's definitely possible some bad people within these hundreds of program participants can be offenders but certainly it will not be government wish. If an Australian government representative is actually really a rapist, should this also mean Australian government support rape program? Maybe there is one bad party member who has done something wrong but this would not be some CCP sponsored rape lol that is too stupid. It will achieve nothing and make things worse.

What is more likely? CCP trying to make things worse for itself or some people are just making things up and exaggerating things from stupid programs like "become a family" they take the meaning literally like this is for producing a family. This "become a family" program would be more about sharing ideology and the usual Chinese way of trying to cooperate rather than saying we are coming to bomb and kill you which is the method used by the same people promoting this sort of propaganda.

 

[VikingRaider]

In 2019 the moron of the millennium Trump was in power. It has changed now, you will see more actions. Also don't expect fast visible actions, west are cunning bastards, they will plan and plot and take time. End result will be it will make the uighur situation better even if it is a result of evil actions of the west.

Okay understand your point. So in Biden era the new cold War has started? Okay let's observe it ( West vs China cold War) with neutral mind setting , as long as Bangladesh doesn't choose any side directly.

 

[Beast]

I have nothing wrong against China except few of its oppressive and self Centre policies which is causing violation of human rights.

You need to ask why most of the Chinese neighbors has problem with it? The way you supported criminal Myanmar janta during genocide against Rohingyas nobody liked it.

Now this Uyghur genocide, mass rape and human right violation issue is ongoing for some time.

Most Bangladeshis have objections to China in these two aspects.

Other countries have issues with other policies of China like claiming entire South China Sea without respecting right of other neighbors. Policies related to Taiwan and Hong Kong.

Even mass scale human right violation against your own Chinese mainland people are there as well.

This is 21st century. Here you just simply you can not stop people to pray, choose religion, express opinion what they like, obstructing mass communication, wiping out culture of minorities etc.

No one said US policy is fair. Whole world protested when it was wrong.

But as I said before two wrong doesn’t make one wrong right.

China never support criminal junta but we are opposed sanction against Myanmar becos the sanction only hurt ordinary citizens. If sanction junta, will it stopped junta from continue shooting protest?

Who are you to question sea dispute in SCS? You have sea dispute with India and China decide to come in and say India is right an you are wrong. Are u happy about it?

Mass gendercide against Uyghur? Again another make up accusation. Why Uyghur population increase compare 40 years ago if genocide happened?

China people are oppressed and lack human right? Then may I know why hundred million of Chinese fly oversea to spend and can come back to China since it so oppressive and lack human right?

There shall be hundred million of Chinese seeking asylums once they fly out of China in UK, USA and Europe, right? You think China is north korea who ban most citizen to fly and travel out?

 

[T-SaGe]

What is the level of awareness within the Bangladesh? The question I'm asking is more about your personal experiences and social life. Do you have any acquaintances around you who care about the Uyghur issue?

 

[VikingRaider]

What is the level of awareness within the Bangladesh? The question I'm asking is more about your personal experiences and social life. Do you have any acquaintances around you who care about the Uyghur issue?

Tbh, in Bangladesh people mostly discuss and shout on kashmir issue and Palestine issue.

Nowadays media sometimes post news on social media related to uighurs ,so people are also disheartened.

Although people consider China as friend of Bangladesh.

But our people have some strange mentality and most of time they don't bother judging any news.

Surprisingly the same people always troll against media because our media is India freidnly.

So from social media you can draw the exact conclusion about Bangladeshis , unless you mix up with them in your personal life.

We are very strange people.

 

[Bengal71]

Okay understand your point. So in Biden era the new cold War has started? Okay let's observe it ( West vs China cold War) with neutral mind setting , as long as Bangladesh doesn't choose any side directly.

Yeah, we need not choose any side. Let them sort out their issues between themselves. We have no delusion of forming alliance and nexus with some superpowers as some of our delusional neighbors. রাজায় রাজায় যুদ্ধ হয়, উলুখাগড়ার প্রান যায়।

We just need to work hard and do honest business with whoever we can benefit from. But I will never want us to lose our humanity and deny the atrocities committed on our brethren. When you lose your humanity, you die that day as a nation.

What is the level of awareness within the Bangladesh? The question I'm asking is more about your personal experiences and social life. Do you have any acquaintances around you who care about the Uyghur issue?

Bangladeshis, the mass people among the educated and semi-educated ones know about the Xinjiang issue. As always, people of Bengal always take the side of Muslims and are sympathetic to the plight of Muslims.