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EU asks Turkey to deploy it's military at Central Africa

I saw someone were saying he was an Indian. No offense but he kinda looks like Indian.
You must have seen that in Chinese section,he trolls Chinese section and hates Chinese and Chinese think that he is an Indian.
He also trolls Indian section because we didnt gave them funds during floods in Germany.......:omghaha: and threatened us with Italian military. :lol:

He suffers from some kind of superiorty complex just ignore him :)
 
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You must have seen that in Chinese section,he trolls Chinese section and hates Chinese and Chinese think that he is an Indian.
He also trolls Indian section because we didnt gave them funds during floods in Germany.......:omghaha: and threatened us with Italian military. :lol:

He suffers from some kind of superiorty complex just ignore him :)

:omghaha:
 
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Turkey needs to deploy its military in turkey to stop al Qaeda fighters from entering syria from Turkish soil.
 
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We have already applied and progressing in EU membership.
But both sides knew that we will never be a member.

he EU is/was playing games.
We have had it with their games,officially we still want in and officially they want us in.
Reality is that we will never be a EU member.
Accession of Turkey to the European Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well, you do have to look at the dynamics.

EU is a common market, Freedom of movement and products, common agriculture, common currency.

In the 1980s the EU didn't need Turkiye, but now with the economic slow down, declining birth rate, the EU has to look somewhere.

While in the 1980s Turkiye needed help to keep it's economy going. Now its different; one of the highest GDP growths, transnational corporations doing business across the world. Erdogan and his party, are smart enough to take an independent approach.

It comes down to whether Turkiye wants to give up its independence in drafting its own economic plans for a few Ay Cekirdegi in economic aid. Turkiye can itself put leverage over the EU if it maintains it's economic growth and political clout.

I mean you are talking about an organization that got blackmailed by Greece into accepting Cyprus into the EU. :cheesy:
 
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So is the EU reconsidering Turkiye's application for EU Membership?

@Neptune @T-123456 @atatwolf
Germany says even if Turkey closses all entry chapters succesfully, they will still block Turkey's entry. The problem is not Turkey not meeting the standards. I mean even shitty 3rd world Bulgaria is inside EU. EU doesn't want a country they can't control. If Turkey gets in EU they will get the ropes in their hands eventually because of demographics and Turkish strong cultural identity which is not assimilation material. Actually I don't get why Germany doesn't want Turkey. It would be German-Turco empire. Something the Germans wanted since WW1. Direct access to natural resources from Mid-east and Central-Asia.
 
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Germany says even if Turkey closses all entry chapters succesfully, they will still block Turkey's entry. The problem is not Turkey not meeting the standards. I mean even shitty 3rd world Bulgaria is inside EU. EU doesn't want a country they can't control. If Turkey gets in EU they will get the ropes in their hands eventually because of demographics and Turkish strong cultural identity which is not assimilation material. Actually I don't get why Germany doesn't want Turkey. It would be German-Turco empire. Something the Germans wanted since WW1. Direct access to natural resources from Mid-east and Central-Asia.
Germany has strong economic ties with Turkey,dating back to the 1950s.
They helped build up the Turkish economy,they dont want to lose their ''monopoly''position in Turkey.
Turkey in EU,do business with other countries easier and maybe cheaper.
This would cost Germany alot of money and leverage over Turkey.
If we enter the EU,we team up with the UK to counter the German/French leadership.
Turkey and the UK would rule,thats what the Germans dont want.
Turkey would get the most(agriculture,infrastructure developement etc..) from the EU pot.
 
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CAR is French and EU problem. I don't see any leverage for Turkey in this expedition.

On the other hand I've only seen Turkish papers write about this. Nothing mentioned in "western" media.

Can anyone provide a source from a non turkish paper ?
 
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CAR is French and EU problem. I don't see any leverage for Turkey in this expedition.

On the other hand I've only seen Turkish papers write about this. Nothing mentioned in "western" media.

Can anyone provide a source from a non turkish paper ?

news.yahoo.com/eu-asks-turkish-39-contribution-39-c-africa-004253282.html

mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA1C1SX20140213?irpc=932

(i could add links in this way due to i m on phone )
Also now its a humanitary problem, so we should take a part in soft way.
 
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news.yahoo.com/eu-asks-turkish-39-contribution-39-c-africa-004253282.html
mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA1C1SX20140213?irpc=932

Sorry but the first source still refers to a "person in Turkey", and the second source doesn't even mention anything worthwhile.

Turkey would of course participate in the meetings to keep her informed of what's going on.

So there still isn't any official request for Turkey to join. Only loose speculations. It's the same as plowing the field in case you find something. And I think either Turkey or EU is plowing the field atm.
 
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Sorry but the first source still refers to a "person in Turkey", and the second source doesn't even mention anything worthwhile.

Turkey would of course participate in the meetings to keep her informed of what's going on.

So there still isn't any official request for Turkey to join. Only loose speculations. It's the same as plowing the field in case you find something. And I think either Turkey or EU is plowing the field atm.

There is a official request , delivered to some countries mentioned in 2nd source.
If there wasnt a request , Turkis Foreign affairs wouldnt say that they are considering to support in logistics
Or in vice versa, against T.F.A ,EU would say " we didnt request something such " ,but there is no deny by EU on this topic.
2nd link mentions about it , but i couldnt review it again. anyway some weeks later it will come out if its true or fake.
 
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Ahmet Davutoglu said Ankara is sending a Special Representative and a humanitarian assessment team to Bangui next week.
World Bulletin / News Desk

Turkey's Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu called on the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to prepare an action plan including a political process, humanitarian assistance and security situation in the Central African Republic (CAR) as the country faces the imminent danger of disintegration and permanent division as the situation is weakening state authority and the rule of law.

Ahmet Davutoglu said during an OIC meeting on Thursday that the situation is deteriorating as tens of thousands of Muslims are moving to the north of the country and taking refuge in neighboring countries.

He expressed gratitude to the governments of Chad and Cameroon for their efforts to accommodate the refugees.

"We (Turkey) are ready to work with them on the humanitarian issue and are always at their disposal," he said.

"The violence, which has led to the killing of dozens of Muslims and their mass exodus from the CAR, poses a serious threat not only to the future of the country itself, but to regional peace, security and stability."

The violence-torn CAR descended into anarchy in March 2013 when Seleka rebels – said to be mostly Muslim – ousted Francois Bozize, a Christian, who came to power in a 2003 coup. The rebels later installed Michel Djotodia, a Muslim, as interim president. In the months since, the country has been plagued by tit-for-tat sectarian violence between Christian anti-balaka militias and former Seleka fighters.

Davutoglu urged the OIC to appoint a special envoy to the CAR. He also said Turkey is sending a Special Representative and a humanitarian assessment team to Bangui next week, while reiterating that Turkey will strongly support and participate in any initiative that would bring an end to the crisis in the CAR.

The minister called on the interim government of the CAR to focus all its efforts on ensuring the security of the entire civilian population, regardless of their religious background.

"It is of the utmost importance that we ensure that all of the perpetrators of violence and murder, bordering on crimes against humanity, be held accountable," he added.
 
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Germany has strong economic ties with Turkey,dating back to the 1950s.
They helped build up the Turkish economy,they dont want to lose their ''monopoly''position in Turkey.
Turkey in EU,do business with other countries easier and maybe cheaper.
This would cost Germany alot of money and leverage over Turkey.
If we enter the EU,we team up with the UK to counter the German/French leadership.
Turkey and the UK would rule,thats what the Germans dont want.
Turkey would get the most(agriculture,infrastructure developement etc..) from the EU pot.

Turkey is member of customs union of europe. They can trade with whomever. And they do. So, it doesnt matter, if they are full member of EU or not.
 
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Turkey is member of customs union of europe. They can trade with whomever. And they do. So, it doesnt matter, if they are full member of EU or not.
It does matter,you should first check out if matters or not.
Here’s your starter for ten: what’s the difference between a free trade area and a customs union? It might sound like a technical question, but it goes to the heart of our relationship with the EU. And it’s becoming increasingly clear that lots of people, including economics correspondents, don’t really know the answer, which makes it hard to have a meaningful debate about our options.

A free trade area is a group of states which have eliminated most or all tariffs and quotas on their trade. Sometimes, their agreement covers only manufactured goods and commodities. Sometimes it applies to services, too. In a few cases, it incorporates free movement of labour. Examples of free trade areas are Nafta (Canada, the United States and Mexico) and ASEAN (ten South East Asian states).

A customs union involves internal free trade, but also a common external tariff. Its members surrender their separate commercial policies, and give up the right to sign trade agreements. Instead, trade negotiations are conducted, and treaties signed, by the bloc as a whole. Customs unions often exist where one state administers another, or where a tiny nation contracts out its trade policy to a larger neighbour: Swaziland and Lesotho are in a customs union with South Africa, Liechtenstein with Switzerland, Israel with the Palestinian territories. Other than the EU, the two chief customs unions on the planet are Mercosur and the Andean Community. (Though Brussels was so heavily involved in launching these two blocs that they might almost be considered creatures of the EU).

One way to think of the difference is this: Nafta could accept Britain while allowing it to enjoy free trade with the EU; but the reverse is not true.

The two models coexist in Europe. EFTA is a free trade area. Its members buy and sell unrestrictedly with each other and with the EU. They can also
sign commercial accords with non-European countries. Switzerland, for example, has signed a free trade agreement with Canada, and is negotiating one with China.

Britain, despite its historical links to Canada, can’t sign such an accord. Nor can it press home the advantage of its growing exports to China (up 40 per cent in two years, as the PM delightedly told his party conference). In both cases, it must wait for the EU to negotiate on its behalf.

We suffer disproportionately from the EU’s common commercial policy because we conduct an exceptionally high percentage of our trade outside Europe. In 2011, non-EU markets accounted for 57 per cent of our exports; the equivalent figure for Belgium was 22 per cent. The EU’s Common External Tariff averages between five and nine per cent – higher than Britain had in the 1920s.

The optimum deal for the United Kingdom is surely to be in a European free trade area but not in a customs union. Again and again, we have been forced to sign less liberal accords than we would have negotiated bilaterally in order to accommodate some protectionist interest on the Continent.

And, of course, membership of the customs union has sundered us from our hinterland. Among the countries with which the EU has negotiated no trade deals at all, beyond the WTO minimum, are the United States, Australia and New Zealand (it is lumberingly getting around to talking to Canada, long after Norway and Switzerland signed their own treaties there).

This is, oddly enough, more of a disadvantage now than it was 40 years ago, because the Commonwealth has grown much faster than the EU, and is forecast to grow at an astonishing 7.3 per cent annually for the next five years. We have purchased membership of a stagnant customs union at the expense of free trade with growing global markets.

Why isn’t this a bigger talking point? Why don’t we hear the statistics more often? Precisely because trade policy ceased to be an issue when we handed it over to Brussels in 1973. In other countries, commercial accords are the major component of foreign policy. Legislators debate them all the time. Journalists take sides. Academics publish detailed papers. Here, as in other EU states, trade has more or less disappeared from public discourse.
Btw,full members have benefits like help in infrastructure and agricultural development,Turkey would get more then France who gets the most now.
Wir wurden 50% vom ganzen budget kriegen:azn:
 
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Turkey is set to consider a request by the European Union to deploy troops to the Central African Republic as part of a union-wide effort to halt ethnic cleansing against the country’s Muslim population. The demand to send troops was brought to the attention of Turkey in Brussels on Feb. 13 at a meeting under the leadership of French Maj. Gen. Philippe Ponties who has been appointed the commander of the EU military operation in the Central African Republic (EUFOR-CAR). Apart from EU countries, Turkey, the United States, Canada, Georgia, Norway and Serbia were also present at the meeting, whose aim was to determine potential contributors to the force. Turkey was asked to contribute to the force either in the field or at the headquarters, although EU sources declined to comment on the scope and nature of the demand they made to the countries. Turkey did not made any comment on the proposal during the meeting, according to sources. It has been learned that Catherine Ashton, the high representative for foreign and security affairs of the EU, is writing a letter to be sent to Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu on the EU’s military operation. February/14/2014

I do not think Serbs would be helpful in such a mission but my question here are Turks trained to deal with militia armed with swords and spears.

NATO didn't even want to help Turkey with Assad. Why would they think we would help them with their problems.

Infact Europe has no problems with central africa its just turkish foreign minister wanted to be involved in the central african issue to play the muslim hero role .
 
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