Ethiopia army voices readiness to pay the price for Nile dam

[sarthak]

Any sanctions would have to be agreed upon by the UN security council, Russia and China would block any move against Egypt by any other member nation. The majority of the worlds powers have greater interests in Egypt and the ME than they do in Ethiopia and thus won't have a problem turning a blind eye especially when this is a matter of vital national security to Egypt.

EU and the US are very close allies of Ethiopia and will certainly get involved. I assure you that most world powers do not have any interest in Egypt whatsoever. Egypt might be a weapon buyer from Russia , but that's that. Egypt is devoid of any significant natural resources like petroleum and has no major industries to speak of. On the other hand, the world needs Ethiopia's help fighting militant groups like Al Shabab and Al Qaeda.

 

[Frogman]

EU and the US are very close allies of Ethiopia and will certainly get involved. I assure you that most world powers do not have any interest in Egypt whatsoever. Egypt might be a weapon buyer from Russia , but that's that. Egypt is devoid of any significant natural resources like petroleum and has no major industries to speak of. On the other hand, the world needs Ethiopia's help fighting militant groups like Al Shabab and Al Qaeda.

Suez Canal

Camp David

Natural gas pipes and reserves

US flights over Egypt to it's ME bases and Afghanistan

Close ties to NATO

Already involved in the war on terror

You don't know anything about Egypt....

 

[sarthak]

Suez Canal

Camp David

Natural gas pipes and reserves

US flights over Egypt to it's ME bases and Afghanistan

Close ties to NATO

Already involved in the war on terror

You don't know anything about Egypt....

All that won't buy you the privilege of bombing another nation. Besides, trying to block the Suez Canal will itself be an act of war and will get you into deeper trouble. Even some of your allies in the gulf will strongly oppose any such endeavor since it will affect their oil exports.

 

[Frogman]

All that won't buy you the privilege of bombing another nation.

If said nation threatens millions of Egyptian lives then the military option will go ahead regardless of the political consequences. Of which there will be zero, the only thing you stated Ethiopia offers can be replaced with more experienced, better equipped, and better trained troops.

. Besides, trying to block the Suez Canal will itself be an act of war and will get you into deeper trouble.

No it is not. Plus no one said anything about blocking, the United States has certain privileges at the canal, including us allowing them to pass their warships through our waters with short notice, anything to disturb that will put a dent into their efforts in the middle east and their withdrawal from Afghanistan.

 

[anonymus]

Any sanctions would have to be agreed upon by the UN security council, Russia and China would block any move against Egypt by any other member nation. The majority of the worlds powers have greater interests in Egypt and the ME than they do in Ethiopia and thus won't have a problem turning a blind eye especially when this is a matter of vital national security to Egypt.

If it is a run of the river dam as Ethopia is claiming it to be, then what problem does Egypt has with it?

 

[Frogman]

If it is a run of the river dam as Ethopia is claiming it to be, then what problem does Egypt has with it?

It's ability to hold water in reserve, which a electric generating dam shouldn't need and can threaten Egypt's share of blue water.

 

[Arabian Legend]

A river can't sink a country you blithering idiot. Besides , there's a thing called the UN and sanctions. A stronger country just can't randomly go an attack a weaker country. It's the 21st century. If I became the prime minister and wanted to nuke the **** out of Saudi Arabia, I just can't go ahead and press the trigger because the world will retaliate.

Nuke Saudi Arabia? All of it at once

Stupid Indian. Maybe you need to airlift the 3 million indians living in Saudi Arabia before nuking it.

You couldn't deal with bunch of Kashmiris at home let alone attacking Saudi Arabia which will result to your destruction. Go chest thumping somewhere else cow piss drinker. India can't wage a war beyond its borders. Pakistan will eat you alive if you ever think you got some muscles to flex.

Egypt has the right to bomb the dam if it is going to be a threat to its national security. Israel went all the way to Sudan, did the same to Syria, Lebanon and Iraq when it came to its national security. I didn't see any sanction imposed on Israel for violating international law ! Sanctions Egypt is very hard thing to do since it has GCC back up whom the superpower companied can't sanction. Saudi Arabia went several miles inside yemen and have its troops deployed in Bahrain where the superpower stayed put.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

If it is a run of the river dam as Ethopia is claiming it to be, then what problem does Egypt has with it?

Here is the problem buddy:

Egypt FM hails 'positive' Tanzanian stance on Ethiopia dam - Politics - Egypt - Ahram Online

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/News/5487/21/Is-Ethiopia’s-Renaissance-Dam-viable-.aspx

For some reason, the Egyptians are a bit skeptical about the whole project, that might result into a large reduction in their portion.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...pt-as-Ethiopia-builds-giant-dam-on-Nile-.html

 

[anonymus]

It's ability to hold water in reserve, which a electric generating dam shouldn't need and can threaten Egypt's share of blue water.

But without diversion infrastructure, it can't reduce Egypt's water share. Nile is not a perennial river, strictly speaking and reservoir may smoothen out ups and downs in river regime

+ reservoir increase head available and thus pelton turbines could be used.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Nuke Saudi Arabia? All of it at once
Stupid Indian. Maybe you need to airlift the 3 million indians living in Saudi Arabia before nuking it.
.

I think he was just given an example to propose his argument in this subject, that's all.

Other than that, he was quite clear about it that if Egypt attacks Ethiopia will be doomed.

 

[Audio]

i've read somewhere that in those papers/treaties (iirc made by UK people) that allocate shares of water between Egypt, Ethiopia and Sudan (i think, not sure), it is listed as White Nile (lower part). And that the Ethiopians would try to legally skirt this by announcing to build on the Blue Nile (upper part).

Anyone knows any further or if there's any substance to this claim at all?

btw, if i recall correctly, Egypt has the right to 80% of all the water according to those treaties.

 

[Frogman]

But without diversion infrastructure, it can't reduce Egypt's water share. Nile is not a perennial river, strictly speaking and reservoir may smoothen out ups and downs in river regime

+ reservoir increase head available and thus pelton turbines could be used.

Either way, Egypt views it as a great threat to its security. It's up to Ethiopia to show us otherwise, or their pet project may just go down the toilet if all diplomatic measures fail.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

EU and the US are very close allies of Ethiopia and will certainly get involved. I assure you that most world powers do not have any interest in Egypt whatsoever. Egypt might be a weapon buyer from Russia , but that's that. Egypt is devoid of any significant natural resources like petroleum and has no major industries to speak of. On the other hand, the world needs Ethiopia's help fighting militant groups like Al Shabab and Al Qaeda.

Al-Shabab are being fought by other regional actors, but primarily the Somalian Gov't plays a major role, with the US drone bases there, near by.

As for Egypt, It is considered to be one of the most important countries in the ME, and Africa by far.

US embassy cables: Egypt's strategic importance to the US | World news | theguardian.com

i've read somewhere that in those papers/treaties (iirc made by UK people) that allocate shares of water between Egypt, Ethiopia and Sudan (i think, not sure), it is listed as White Nile (lower part). And that the Ethiopians would try to legally skirt this by announcing to build on the Blue Nile (upper part).

Anyone knows any further or if there's any substance to this claim at all?

btw, if i recall correctly, Egypt has the right to 80% of all the water according to those treaties.

Hey, long time no see, hope you're doing good.

Yes, they all abide by the treaties which were signed at the time where the Brits where hanging around

And that's what disturbs the Egyys.

 

[Khan_patriot]

waiting for a war for quite some time, hope it happens.

WWHAATTT....

 

[Audio]

Hey, long time no see, hope you're doing good.

lol, was banned. Doing good, thanks. Likewise to you.

Yes, they all abide by the treaties which were signed at the time where the Brits where hanging around

And that's what disturbs the Egyys.

Well, i was just looking for some confirmation or denial.