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capitalism is the best system there is tbh

Yeah it is ... Capitalism is the best system for Goldman Sacs, JP Morgan, Monsanto, Proctor & Gamble, Boeing, AIG, Banks, Hedge Funds and the like.

For the rest of the 8 billion on this planet, Capitalism is a means to suck their blood dry.
 
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capitalism is the best system there is tbh
Funniest comment yet! It is precisely because of capitalism the world is living in a cast based bubble where ultra rich enjoy every and poor sleep hungry inspite of an abundance of produce ... it is precisely because of this system fate of over 90 percent of humanity is written at time of birth... while their travails and hardwork pays debts of the rich... The fact is greed is sold precisely so that the poor work harder for a dream they can never achieve. While the rich laugh all the way in their yachts unaffected and amused. For them the looking at regular hardworking person is going to the zoo and admiring the diversity of animals and calling out those who have less with their lack of work ethic... okay, too much fun for the day.
 
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Every state is secular by default. Turkey on the other hand has been militantly secular inspite of having nearly all the population as Muslim. Turkish military has previously and even the recent attempted coup was contrived to be as upholding Turkish secular state. No wonder a state official had to profess tge state religion.
 
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Yeah it is ... Capitalism is the best system for Goldman Sacs, JP Morgan, Monsanto, Proctor & Gamble, Boeing, AIG, Banks, Hedge Funds and the like.

For the rest of the 8 billion on this planet, Capitalism is a means to suck their blood dry.
well no one is stopping anybody to take advantage of this system... case point... japan/ china/ south korea

Funniest comment yet! It is precisely because of capitalism the world is living in a cast based bubble where ultra rich enjoy every and poor sleep hungry inspite of an abundance of produce ... it is precisely because of this system fate of over 90 percent of humanity is written at time of birth... while their travails and hardwork pays debts of the rich... The fact is greed is sold precisely so that the poor work harder for a dream they can never achieve. While the rich laugh all the way in their yachts unaffected and amused. For them the looking at regular hardworking person is going to the zoo and admiring the diversity of animals and calling out those who have less with their lack of work ethic... okay, too much fun for the day.
well show me an alternative that would work...
communism- failed
nationalist socialism- failed

and way before all this it was the same shit in different brand name... subjugation and exploitation is a human nature... that won't ever stop
 
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Yeah it is ... Capitalism is the best system for Goldman Sacs, JP Morgan, Monsanto, Proctor & Gamble, Boeing, AIG, Banks, Hedge Funds and the like.

For the rest of the 8 billion on this planet, Capitalism is a means to suck their blood dry.

Same Capitalism put my family out from villages into cities. From cities to other countries, and changed a lot for us on scales we couldn't imagine. Capitalism is a brilliant system, countries which cling to communism have failed, like Cuba, ever seen what life style is like there? Socialost policies of Bhutto during 70s also put us down hard.

Name one western country which has a debt free, non-alligient to bankers government and is still classified as a democracy. What? I didn't hear anything? ... Yeah I thought so!

There is no country on earth which isn't under the grip of Zionist-Captialism that subjugates you to their will.

As for Turkey, anyone with any knowledge about the origins of these people knows what modern day Turkey is really about. It doesn't mean that any of the remaining Muslims countries fair any better. Rather it means some countries with a predominantly Muslim population, have governments or elites who masquerade as being Muslim and use Islam as their way of legitimizing themselves in the Islamic World. Pakistan is far from being Islamic, nowhere near it. But at least Zionists don't infest Pakistan overtly as they do in other supposedly Muslim countries.

Being a secular state is NOT badge of honor, rather it is a shameful state of existence. At the core of any secular state is rotten and decadent, oozing of capitalism. And capitalism is a system which is used by Zionists to ensure that wealth only comes to them and their obedient servants. A tool which empowers them and makes them the dominant one to decide the destiny of that state. Whereas Zionism is the "Parasitic Cancer" that feeds off the host state, using it to fulfill their objectives. Kamal Ataturk was one of Zionist's servants. Just like, Bolshevik Jews, U.S Presidency, British Parliament, French Democracy and so on. Built on lies, disguised as saviors, where in reality, completely devoid of humanity.

I don't know whether President of Turkey is aware how strong the Zionist's grip is on Turkey. But if he truly is faithful to Islam, then he would know that winning against Zionists, using their rules (Capitalism) won't ever grant him victory. One only has to look at how Zionists are turning the screws on Pakistan's Prime Minister, Imran Khan. Forcing him to go to IMF for a bailout.

To understand Zionism, and how powerful they really are, one has to go to the Holy Qur'an to find the answers. Oh and the Holy Qur'an isn't some book you can read and you will be able to understand it. The Holy Quran reveals to those who have Imaan (faith). Without studying and recognizing what Zionism really is, through the Holy Quran, one cannot possibly hope to formulate a winning strategy. And they don't teach you this in an Ivy-League, Zionist-Western, Capitalist, Secular State.

Then there are people like you who still believe Zionists are behind it all. Last time I checked, these "debt-ridden" countries are economically very sound and good. Yes, banks use funds to lobby, but they can't brainwash or control every economist.

Would I believe economists who have graduated from Universities, and later go onto implement these policies in Government, or would I believe some guy on PDF shouting "Zionism!".

Also, mind you, it was the choice of Kemal Atatürk's, the founding father of Turkey (equivalent of our Jinnah), choice to make it a secular state. Turkey is a secular state, but on their flag, red represents the color of the martyrs who fought for it, and the crescent with the star represents the religion of the country which is Islam. And that how it should remain, in my opinion.
 
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well no one is stopping anybody to take advantage of this system... case point... japan/ china/ south korea

Japan and South Korea are subjected to Zionist-US imperialism. They are host countries to the Zionist-American military, whether they like it or not, whether they're comfortable with it or not. Japan in particular is subjected to the surrender terms of 1945. They remained pacifist until their master, Zionist-America ordered them to expand their military. South Korea, unlike Japan, still tries to exhert some independence, but when it comes to Zionist agenda (like not buying oil from Iran) they buckle under pressure.

China has opposed and challenged the Zionist-American economic hegemony when it approached the inept saudi regime to buy oil in ¥ instead of $. And they're now faced with a full blown trade war, with imposition of increased tarrifs on hundreds of billions of dollars worth of export products.

This is Capitalism that is a tool used by the Zionists to further their agenda. The benefits were temporary, the reality was to gain full control of wealth and through wealth, power and through power to further their objectives.

There is no such thing as "free and fair market" economy, the principles on which capitalism is built. The system is now globalized to the extent that those countries which truly want to establish and practice free and fair market economy, cannot. Capitalism is the lie that consumed the western world and now has almost the entire planet under its grip. At it's helm, sits the Parasitic Cancer which is Zionism.
 
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Japan and South Korea are subjected to Zionist-US imperialism. They are host countries to the Zionist-American military, whether they like it or not, whether they're comfortable with it or not. Japan in particular is subjected to the surrender terms of 1945. They remained pacifist until their master, Zionist-America ordered them to expand their military. South Korea, unlike Japan, still tries to exhert some independence, but when it comes to Zionist agenda (like not buying oil from Iran) they buckle under pressure.

China has opposed and challenged the Zionist-American economic hegemony when it approached the inept saudi regime to buy oil in ¥ instead of $. And they're now faced with a full blown trade war, with imposition of increased tarrifs on hundreds of billions of dollars worth of export products.

This is Capitalism that is a tool used by the Zionists to further their agenda. The benefits were temporary, the reality was to gain full control of wealth and through wealth, power and through power to further their objectives.

There is no such thing as "free and fair market" economy, the principles on which capitalism is built. The system is now globalized to the extent that those countries which truly want to establish and practice free and fair market economy, cannot. Capitalism is the lie that consumed the western world and now has almost the entire planet under its grip. At it's helm, sits the Parasitic Cancer which is Zionism.
dude chinese economy is based on capitalism, if it was like the soviets then communist china wouldn't' exist
 
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Dr.. Yassin Aktay @ yaktay Advisor to the President of the Turkish Justice and Development Party: "Turkey as a state is not a Muslim or Christian or anything, is neutral to religions".


So, is there any country in the world which is Islamic as an state.
As far as the system is concerned, there is no difference between Islamic Republic or peoples Republic.
When the highest order of rule is by the people for the people, there is no Islamic thing in that.
 
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Japan and South Korea are subjected to Zionist-US imperialism. They are host countries to the Zionist-American military, whether they like it or not, whether they're comfortable with it or not. Japan in particular is subjected to the surrender terms of 1945. They remained pacifist until their master, Zionist-America ordered them to expand their military. South Korea, unlike Japan, still tries to exhert some independence, but when it comes to Zionist agenda (like not buying oil from Iran) they buckle under pressure.

China has opposed and challenged the Zionist-American economic hegemony when it approached the inept saudi regime to buy oil in ¥ instead of $. And they're now faced with a full blown trade war, with imposition of increased tarrifs on hundreds of billions of dollars worth of export products.

This is Capitalism that is a tool used by the Zionists to further their agenda. The benefits were temporary, the reality was to gain full control of wealth and through wealth, power and through power to further their objectives.

There is no such thing as "free and fair market" economy, the principles on which capitalism is built. The system is now globalized to the extent that those countries which truly want to establish and practice free and fair market economy, cannot. Capitalism is the lie that consumed the western world and now has almost the entire planet under its grip. At it's helm, sits the Parasitic Cancer which is Zionism.

China is facing trade war due to trade deficit, not because they wanted to buy oil in Yen. There's a trade deficit of $419 billion between China and USA, and so Trump doesn't like that. That is why there is a trade war.

Japan and South Korea are subjected to Zionist-US imperialism. They are host countries to the Zionist-American military, whether they like it or not, whether they're comfortable with it or not. Japan in particular is subjected to the surrender terms of 1945. They remained pacifist until their master, Zionist-America ordered them to expand their military. South Korea, unlike Japan, still tries to exhert some independence, but when it comes to Zionist agenda (like not buying oil from Iran) they buckle under pressure.

China has opposed and challenged the Zionist-American economic hegemony when it approached the inept saudi regime to buy oil in ¥ instead of $. And they're now faced with a full blown trade war, with imposition of increased tarrifs on hundreds of billions of dollars worth of export products.

This is Capitalism that is a tool used by the Zionists to further their agenda. The benefits were temporary, the reality was to gain full control of wealth and through wealth, power and through power to further their objectives.

There is no such thing as "free and fair market" economy, the principles on which capitalism is built. The system is now globalized to the extent that those countries which truly want to establish and practice free and fair market economy, cannot. Capitalism is the lie that consumed the western world and now has almost the entire planet under its grip. At it's helm, sits the Parasitic Cancer which is Zionism.

Chinese economy is also based on Capitalism. It symbolically is Communist. If you want to see the only living live example of a Communist economy, look at Cuba.
 
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Same Capitalism put my family out from villages into cities.

The same "Capitalism" drove thousands of indian farmers to suicide, rendered nearly a million American families homeless as their houses got repossessed, wiped out a third of the American middle class population, put millions of Europeans (Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, France & etc) unemployed, forced millions more to join the pathetically coined "Gig Economy", bailed out corporations which were ripped off by their own brothers on Wall Street, wiped out pensions of millions, forced many developing countries into debt, destroyed a tiny country like Iceland which had a stable economy. So don't give me this garbage about Capitalism pulled you out of a village to a city. Because the same city you so proudly are a resident of, has homeless and unemployed population that everyone conveniently chooses to ignore.

From cities to other countries, and changed a lot for us on scales we couldn't imagine.

Indeed we couldn't imagine, all you need to do is go to the "Favelas" of Rio-de-Janeiro, or to the "Mong Kok District" Hong Kong's micro-apartments where people live like rats, or to "Tent City" of Florida where people who had their homes repossessed and became unemployed due to the 2008 financial crisis rent 10×10 (ft) plots to pitch their tents to live in.

Capitalism is a brilliant system, countries which cling to communism have failed, like Cuba, ever seen what life style is like there?

Cuba suffered because it opposed Zionist-American Imperialism, not because it adopted "Socialism". Get your facts straight!

Then there are people like you who still believe Zionists are behind it all.

And then there are people like you who haven't read the Holy Quran, studied history or analyzed the creation of Capitalism, Fiat Currency and market manipulation.

Last time I checked, these "debt-ridden" countries are economically very sound and good.

When was the last time you checked? Back when Japanese weren't working 16 hours a day? Or when America had a middle class economy? Or when the swine Bolsheviks were brutally running down Russia?

Yes, banks use funds to lobby, but they can't brainwash or control every economist.

You're misguided if you think money doesn't buy intellectuals, and even more misguided to think that integrity, honesty and credibility still matters in a world driven by Capitalism.

Would I believe economists who have graduated from Universities, and later go onto implement these policies in Government, or would I believe some guy on PDF shouting "Zionism!".

Does it look like I give a hoot whether you believe me or not? People like you will always exist, the same way people like me will always expose the true face of the devil.

Also, mind you, it was the choice of Kemal Atatürk's, the founding father of Turkey (equivalent of our Jinnah), choice to make it a secular state.

I do not think you are using your intellectual capacity even by 1% if you compare Pakistan's creation to that of Turkey's. Where Pakistan was created based on the "Two Nation Theory" whereby those who are Muslims, get their own country, Pakistan and those who are hindus, get their own country called Bharat. Which in essence is that Pakistan was created on the basis of the "Islamic Faith". Whereas Turkey was founded on the basis that it abandons Islam and becomes a "Secular State." Those are two ideologically opposite forces.

Turkey is a secular state, but on their flag, red represents the color of the martyrs who fought for it, and the crescent with the star represents the religion of the country which is Islam. And that how it should remain, in my opinion.

And there in lies the problem for both Pakistan and Turkey and the rest of the Muslim countries. You cannot be Secular and also be Muslim, it is like oil and water, the don't and will not mix.

So what counts as a Muslim country is it ruling by the Sharia or by the population.

Good question, a state whose predominant faith (not religion) is Islam and conform to the laws in Islam, have Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah as "Sovereign", not the Constitution, not the Parliament and certainly not the Central Bank. In a Muslim country, "Riba" is prohibited in all it's forms. Be it mortgage, stock markets, credit cards, paper money and etc.

dude chinese economy is based on capitalism, if it was like the soviets then communist china wouldn't' exist

Dude wake up, China opposes Zionist-American hegemony which uses the Capitalist System it built (Bretten Woods Agreement) to subjugate others to it's will. China is now challenging Zionist-America on the basis that if Capitalism truly is a free and fair market economic model, then the system cannot be used to further their own political goals. Zionist-America has the Petro-Dollar, International Electronic Banking Payment system, the World Bank and the IMF to wage economic war on countries which challenge it's hegemony.
 
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The same "Capitalism" drove thousands of indian farmers to suicide, rendered nearly a million American families homeless as their houses got repossessed, wiped out a third of the American middle class population, put millions of Europeans (Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, France & etc) unemployed, forced millions more to join the pathetically coined "Gig Economy", bailed out corporations which were ripped off by their own brothers on Wall Street, wiped out pensions of millions, forced many developing countries into debt, destroyed a tiny country like Iceland which had a stable economy. So don't give me this garbage about Capitalism pulled you out of a village to a city. Because the same city you so proudly are a resident of, has homeless and unemployed population that everyone conveniently chooses to ignore.



Indeed we couldn't imagine, all you need to do is go to the "Favelas" of Rio-de-Janeiro, or to the "Mong Kok District" Hong Kong's micro-apartments where people live like rats, or to "Tent City" of Florida where people who had their homes repossessed and became unemployed due to the 2008 financial crisis rent 10×10 (ft) plots to pitch their tents to live in.



Cuba suffered because it opposed Zionist-American Imperialism, not because it adopted "Socialism". Get your facts straight!



And then there are people like you who haven't read the Holy Quran, studied history or analyzed the creation of Capitalism, Fiat Currency and market manipulation.



When was the last time you checked? Back when Japanese weren't working 16 hours a day? Or when America had a middle class economy? Or when the swine Bolsheviks were brutally running down Russia?



You're misguided if you think money doesn't buy intellectuals, and even more misguided to think that integrity, honesty and credibility still matters in a world driven by Capitalism.



Does it look like I give a hoot whether you believe me or not? People like you will always exist, the same way people like me will always expose the true face of the devil.



I do not think you are using your intellectual capacity even by 1% if you compare Pakistan's creation to that of Turkey's. Where Pakistan was created based on the "Two Nation Theory" whereby those who are Muslims, get their own country, Pakistan and those who are hindus, get their own country called Bharat. Which in essence is that Pakistan was created on the basis of the "Islamic Faith". Whereas Turkey was founded on the basis that it abandons Islam and becomes a "Secular State." Those are two ideologically opposite forces.



And there in lies the problem for both Pakistan and Turkey and the rest of the Muslim countries. You cannot be Secular and also be Muslim, it is like oil and water, the don't and will not mix.



Good question, a state whose predominant faith (not religion) is Islam and conform to the laws in Islam, have Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah as "Sovereign", not the Constitution, not the Parliament and certainly not the Central Bank. In a Muslim country, "Riba" is prohibited in all it's forms. Be it mortgage, stock markets, credit cards, paper money and etc.



Dude wake up, China opposes Zionist-American hegemony which uses the Capitalist System it built (Bretten Woods Agreement) to subjugate others to it's will. China is now challenging Zionist-America on the basis that if Capitalism truly is a free and fair market economic model, then the system cannot be used to further their own political goals. Zionist-America has the Petro-Dollar, International Electronic Banking Payment system, the World Bank and the IMF to wage economic war on countries which challenge it's hegemony.

Lmao. Your answer is so condescending. You studied Economy from the Holy Quran, huh? Whole world knows secularism and Islam can go together, Turkey is a living example of it. And whole world knows Socialism has failed. China and Russia are only socialist symbolically, their economies are also based on a Capitalism now.

And I think you forgot the whole point of Capitalism. It rewards those who have the credentials and merit, and it punishes those who don't. It isn't meant to give everyone an amazing life.

Your answer literally is so full of tinfoil hat. Perhaps all you need to do is get out more, just maybe.

The same "Capitalism" drove thousands of indian farmers to suicide, rendered nearly a million American families homeless as their houses got repossessed, wiped out a third of the American middle class population, put millions of Europeans (Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, France & etc) unemployed, forced millions more to join the pathetically coined "Gig Economy", bailed out corporations which were ripped off by their own brothers on Wall Street, wiped out pensions of millions, forced many developing countries into debt, destroyed a tiny country like Iceland which had a stable economy. So don't give me this garbage about Capitalism pulled you out of a village to a city. Because the same city you so proudly are a resident of, has homeless and unemployed population that everyone conveniently chooses to ignore.



Indeed we couldn't imagine, all you need to do is go to the "Favelas" of Rio-de-Janeiro, or to the "Mong Kok District" Hong Kong's micro-apartments where people live like rats, or to "Tent City" of Florida where people who had their homes repossessed and became unemployed due to the 2008 financial crisis rent 10×10 (ft) plots to pitch their tents to live in.



Cuba suffered because it opposed Zionist-American Imperialism, not because it adopted "Socialism". Get your facts straight!



And then there are people like you who haven't read the Holy Quran, studied history or analyzed the creation of Capitalism, Fiat Currency and market manipulation.



When was the last time you checked? Back when Japanese weren't working 16 hours a day? Or when America had a middle class economy? Or when the swine Bolsheviks were brutally running down Russia?



You're misguided if you think money doesn't buy intellectuals, and even more misguided to think that integrity, honesty and credibility still matters in a world driven by Capitalism.



Does it look like I give a hoot whether you believe me or not? People like you will always exist, the same way people like me will always expose the true face of the devil.



I do not think you are using your intellectual capacity even by 1% if you compare Pakistan's creation to that of Turkey's. Where Pakistan was created based on the "Two Nation Theory" whereby those who are Muslims, get their own country, Pakistan and those who are hindus, get their own country called Bharat. Which in essence is that Pakistan was created on the basis of the "Islamic Faith". Whereas Turkey was founded on the basis that it abandons Islam and becomes a "Secular State." Those are two ideologically opposite forces.



And there in lies the problem for both Pakistan and Turkey and the rest of the Muslim countries. You cannot be Secular and also be Muslim, it is like oil and water, the don't and will not mix.



Good question, a state whose predominant faith (not religion) is Islam and conform to the laws in Islam, have Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah as "Sovereign", not the Constitution, not the Parliament and certainly not the Central Bank. In a Muslim country, "Riba" is prohibited in all it's forms. Be it mortgage, stock markets, credit cards, paper money and etc.



Dude wake up, China opposes Zionist-American hegemony which uses the Capitalist System it built (Bretten Woods Agreement) to subjugate others to it's will. China is now challenging Zionist-America on the basis that if Capitalism truly is a free and fair market economic model, then the system cannot be used to further their own political goals. Zionist-America has the Petro-Dollar, International Electronic Banking Payment system, the World Bank and the IMF to wage economic war on countries which challenge it's hegemony.

Just FYI, I am not misguided to think that Banks can lobby but not buy all the intellectuals in the world. You cannot buy every graduate, doctorate, or professors, or university with money, you can't.

Do you even have a bachelor in the relevant field? Or is it all the work of Wikipedia, tinfoilhat.com, Jones, and Youtube? Ehat's next? America faked the moon landing and the earth is flat?
 
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So, is there any country in the world which is Islamic as an state.
As far as the system is concerned, there is no difference between Islamic Republic or peoples Republic.
When the highest order of rule is by the people for the people, there is no Islamic thing in that.

Every time there is a chance to make an Islamic model as an alternative, somehow, they find a way to stop it, destroy it by any means. Does that mean that the Islamic system is not workable or that it is a potent alternative, one they fear and cannot play fair against?

The Islamic model does include a free, open economy that can trade and has a market based mechanism. So, in a way, it shares quite some traits with a capitalist system. Yet it is very different when it comes to welfare, to property rights, to usury and banking.
 
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Every time there is a chance to make an Islamic model as an alternative, somehow, they find a way to stop it, destroy it by any means. Does that mean that the Islamic system is not workable or that it is a potent alternative, one they fear and cannot play fair against?

The Islamic model does include a free, open economy that can trade and has a market based mechanism. So, in a way, it shares quite some traits with a capitalist system. Yet it is very different when it comes to welfare, to property rights, to usury and banking.

The issue is not them but our own people who exploit the system. It's a package, you are not only getting an Islamic system but the complete package with exploiting religious leaders, abuse of Islamic laws, crack downs do the name of religion, and all.
 
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The issue is not them but our own people who exploit the system. It's a package, you are not only getting an Islamic system but the complete package with exploiting religious leaders, abuse of Islamic laws, crack downs do the name of religion, and all.

Respectfully sir, how do you know what is the issue? What expertise or experience do you have to make such a bold claim about such a complex and specialized issue?

We need to stop being a people who has a two penny reply to every issue under the sun.
 
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Dude wake up, China opposes Zionist-American hegemony which uses the Capitalist System it built (Bretten Woods Agreement) to subjugate others to it's will. China is now challenging Zionist-America on the basis that if Capitalism truly is a free and fair market economic model, then the system cannot be used to further their own political goals. Zionist-America has the Petro-Dollar, International Electronic Banking Payment system, the World Bank and the IMF to wage economic war on countries which challenge it's hegemony.
lmao nah... china seeks to topple US dollar dominance and seeks to replace it's own currency backed by petroleum... you see US placing embargoes on china now because china has the upper hand now in capitalistic style of trade ie beating US at it's own game... america just bit a lot more than they could chew post soviet breakup with one war after another.... now they're ridden in debt... they basically are afloat now because the dollar guess what is american... china will successfully replace dollar with yuan one day and there is nothing stopping it.. all thanks to capitalism
 
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