ERDOGAN warned the Assad Regime to withdraw behind Turkish OP lines in Idlib

[That Guy]

They made some of the most stupid decisions in the past by trusting the west and cause the collapsed of Soviet Union.
One of the biggest disaster in their entire history.

That's mostly Gorbachev's fault, but even then, the USSR was on the verge of bankruptcy anyway. They were also facing open rebellion within their territories. NATO moving into eastern Europe only took advantage of the problems that already existed, nothing more.

For you, it may have been a disaster, but I'm actually glad the USSR is gone.

 

[Nein]

More like Assad should have blasted the Turks outside of Syria

Good luck hahahaha

 

[IblinI]

That's mostlyGorbachev's fault, but even then, the USSR was on the verge of bankruptcy anyway. They were also facing open rebellion within their territories. NATO moving into eastern Europe only took advantage of the problems that already existed, nothing more.

For you, it may have been a disaster, but I'm actually glad the USSR is gone.

I believed no one is happier than Chinese after Yankees to witness the fall of Soviet,
We should also gives credit where it is due, can't blamed Gorbachev for everything, he isn't that capable.

 

[That Guy]

I believed no one is happier than Chinese after Yankees to witness the fall of Soviet,
We should also gives credit where it is due, can't blamed Gorbachev for everything, he isn't that capable.

True. There were a lot of things that were out of his control, his own allies turned against him, which was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for the USSR.

 

[Stryker1982]

Turks should just stay out of Syria trying to take back its own land.

 

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Assad army targets armed terrorists who get financial assist from foreigners. the civilian death toll would be lower if those people have grown a pair of ball and stopped using human shields.

Assad , Iran , Hezbollah and Russia are the biggest terrorists in Syria
Russians used same tactic in Afghanistan and Chechenya too .... to attack civilians , to bomb civilians , even to bomb schools , hospitals , etc ..... because of Russians are cowards and dont know how to fight like real men

Afghans and Chechens kicked Russians
FSA kicked Assad , Iran and Iran backed terrorist groups

and who gave right to fcking sectarian dictator Assad to allow Russia,Iran and Iran backed radical sectarian terrorist groups to kill over 800.000 innocent Syrian civilians and to force millions of Syrian civilians to move from their lands ?

10% radical sectarian Nusayrs rules 80% sunni Muslims with Russian and Iranian military support
no decomracy , no democratic election , no human rights
sectarian dictator Assad Family rules Syria since 1970

Turks should just stay out of Syria trying to take back its own land.

Turkiye will be in Syria - Iraq .... and Nobody can change it
the US,France,Russia and Iran came to Syria from thousands km away to kill Syrian People for their interests
( even They have NO borderline with Syria and Syria is not national security for the US,France,Russia and Iran )


on the other hand Syria is national security for Turkiye and Turkish People
there are 911 km borderline between Turkiye and Syria and Pkk/Ypg , ISIS terrorists attacks Turkiye from Syria
Turkiye has right to be in Syria to fight terrorism ( the UN article 51 self defense )
also Turkiye hosts 3,6 million Syrian refugees and Turkiye protect over 6 million civilians in Syria ( around 10 million Syrian people is with Turkiye )


I remind all stupid idiots
after invasion of Iraq , the US and the UK created terror corridor in N.Iraq
and since 1992 Pkk terrorists always attacked Turkiye from Pkk terror camps in N.Iraq .. and Turkiye lost tens of thousands of citizens and hundreds of billions of dollars

now same senario in Syria . the US,France,Russia wants to create Pkk/Ypg terror corridor in N.Syria against Turkiye and Turkish People ......... and Israel,The Uae and S.Arabia support this dirty plan

stupid idiots wake up and stop dreaming ,
Turks never will allow bandit countries to create terror corridor in N.Syria to destroy Turkiye's territory integrity
Turks are fighting against those mtherfcker Crusaders since 1096 and Turks never will back down


btw fcking Pkk/Ypg terrorists are hidding behind of the US-France to attack Turkiye and Turkish people
Assad , Iran and Iran backed terrorist groups are hidding behind of Russia to attack Turkiye and Turkish people

They can go back if turkey leaves their country alone

They will be killed by sectarian dictator Assad , terror state Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia , if Turkiye leave them alone

 

[Zhukov]

I should seriously Advise all Pakistani members to stay away from this Turkish-Irani-Syrian mess in Middle East. And Please don't lecture them Islamic Brother hood. We have operational relationship with all of them and specially with turkey.
However among these three entities Anatolia-Damascus-Persia, Their Enmities are way older then these modern states of Turkey-Syria-Iran.For a start Try reading the days of Ottoman-Seljuk-Mamluk tensions. And the more i talk to all of them, these Arabs, Turks and Persians don't let go of their pasts to move forward.
I am surprised how even the modern day secular Turkey still clings on to Ottoman era hostilities centuries ago.
Anyways non of our business. Middle Eastern mess belongs to middle east.
Hope all the parties take some sense and stop fighting each other.

 

[raptor22]

Syrian lands belong to Syrians & Turks have no right over it let alone to tell Syrians what to do in Syrian lands ... no pretext be it Assad killing 1000 million of people or being bad would give Turks any right to be there esp when they played a big part in all this madness ..


Abdul Hakim Belhaj

"Everyone wants to go. We have liberated our country, now we should help others," said the commander of the 'Fighting Village' brigade, "This is freedom. This is Arab unity".

In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, "met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey" in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.

Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship "carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey." The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.

Those heavy weapons are most likely from Muammar Gaddafi's stock of about 20,000 portable heat-seeking missiles—the bulk of them SA-7s—that the Libyan leader obtained from the former Eastern bloc. Reuters reports that Syrian rebels have been using those heavy weapons to shoot down Syrian helicopters and fighter jets.

The ship's captain was "a Libyan from Benghazi and the head of an organization called the Libyan National Council for Relief and Support," which was presumably established by the new government.
​

& now returning favor:

Syrian militants affiliated with groups such as al-Qaida and the Islamic State group are currently being sent by Turkey to fight on behalf of the U.N.-supported government in Libya, according to two Libyan militia leaders and a Syrian war monitor.

Both sides in Libya's civil war receive equipment and backing from foreign countries. But Turkey, which has long trained and funded opposition fighters in Syria and relaxed its borders so foreign fighters joined IS, has in recent months been airlifting hundreds of them over to a new theater of war in Libya.​

 

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Syrian lands belong to Syrians & Turks have no right over it let alone to tell Syrians what to do in Syrian lands

Syrian People has no right over Syria

because of over 800.000 Syrian People were killed by sectarian dictator Assad , Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia
because of over 8 million Syrian People were forced to move from Syria to Turkiye , Jordan , Lebanon , Egypt , Iraq and Europe by dictator Assad , Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia

now same senario in Idlib ..... dictator Assad , Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia wants to kill 4 million Syrian People or to force them to move from their lands to Turkiye

also dictator Assad , Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia have plan to attack over 2 milllion Syrian People who lives in Turkish Army controlled cities

so only 10% population (Nusarys) are with Assad,Iran and Russia
10% radical sectarian Nusayrs rules 80% sunni Muslims with Russian and Iranian military support
no decomracy , no democratic election , no human rights
sectarian dictator Assad Family rules Syria since 1970

on the other hand Turkiye hosts more than 3,6 million Syrian refugees and Turkiye protect over 6 million civilians in Syria ( around 10 million Syrian people is with Turkiye )

Turkiye says there should be real democratic election in Syria
but Assad , Iran , Russia very well knows about they will lose because of most of Syrian People so hate murderer radical sectarian Assad Regime and Iran .. also christian Russia

 

[Nein]

Turks should just stay out of Syria trying to take back its own land.

Same applies to your murderous iranian militias and soldiers.

 

[mangekyo]

Syrian People has no right over Syria

Finally you showed your true colors

 

[raptor22]

You write 100000 lines over numbers of millions of people killed by Assad it can not justify occupation of Syrian lands ...

Turkiye says there should be real democratic election in Syria
but Assad , Iran , Russia very well knows about they will lose because of most of Syrian People so hate murderer radical sectarian Assad Regime and Iran .. also christian Russia

You opposed presidential and legislative elections under UN supervision that could have resulted in Assad removal back in 2012 and Iran was not only ready to step in this way but agreed on every detail ... to do being so busy of sending men in Syria you forgot it might turn out as you didn't wish ...

Iran and Turkey's secret talks on Syria revealed

"...The plan envisaged a ceasefire followed by a national unity government and constitutional reform aimed at constraining presidential powers. Most importantly, there would then be presidential and legislative elections under UN supervision. The plan was the subject of several months of shuttle diplomacy between the Iranian foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, and his Turkish counterpart, Ahmet Davutoğlu, but it eventually collapsed over the future role of the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad.


“We agreed on every detail, except a clause in the final phase of the plan which called for UN-monitored elections. Turkish leaders wanted Assad barred,” Zarif is quoted as saying in the report. “I noted that this should not be a concern in an internationally monitored election, particularly if, as Turkey holds, Assad has a dreadful record and a minority constituency. But Davutoğlu refused... and our efforts came to naught.”

The Turkish president at the time, Abdullah Gül, told the ICG “our government did not pursue an agreement with Iran because it thought Assad would be toppled in a few months”.


“From Ankara’s perspective, Assad’s battlefield losses would remove need to compromise or at least improve a deal’s terms,” the report said. ​

 

[mangekyo]

You write 100000 lines over numbers of millions of people killed by Assad it can not justify occupation of Syrian lands ...


You opposed presidential and legislative elections under UN supervision that could have resulted in Assad removal back in 2012 and Iran was not only ready to step in this way but agreed on every detail ... to do being so busy of sending men in Syria you forgot it might turn out as you didn't wish ...

Iran and Turkey's secret talks on Syria revealed

"...The plan envisaged a ceasefire followed by a national unity government and constitutional reform aimed at constraining presidential powers. Most importantly, there would then be presidential and legislative elections under UN supervision. The plan was the subject of several months of shuttle diplomacy between the Iranian foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, and his Turkish counterpart, Ahmet Davutoğlu, but it eventually collapsed over the future role of the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad.


“We agreed on every detail, except a clause in the final phase of the plan which called for UN-monitored elections. Turkish leaders wanted Assad barred,” Zarif is quoted as saying in the report. “I noted that this should not be a concern in an internationally monitored election, particularly if, as Turkey holds, Assad has a dreadful record and a minority constituency. But Davutoğlu refused... and our efforts came to naught.”

The Turkish president at the time, Abdullah Gül, told the ICG “our government did not pursue an agreement with Iran because it thought Assad would be toppled in a few months”.


“From Ankara’s perspective, Assad’s battlefield losses would remove need to compromise or at least improve a deal’s terms,” the report said. ​

Don’t waste your time on someone who claims “Syrian People has no right over Syria”

 

[MMM-E]

Don’t waste your time on someone who claims “Syrian People has no right over Syria”

are you idiot or liar ?

I am saying again Syrian People has no right over Syria
because of radical sectarian Assad Regime , Iran , Iran backed terrorist groups and Russia


because of over 800.000 Syrian People were killed by sectarian dictator Assad , Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia

because of over 8 million Syrian People were forced to move from Syria to Turkiye , Jordan , Lebanon , Egypt , Iraq and Europe by dictator Assad , Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia

now same senario in Idlib ..... dictator Assad , Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia wants to kill 4 million Syrian People or to force them to move from their lands to Turkiye

 

[mangekyo]

are you idiot or liar ?

I am saying again Syrian People has no right over Syria
because of radical sectarian Assad Regime , Iran , Iran backed terrorist groups and Russia


because of over 800.000 Syrian People were killed by sectarian dictator Assad , Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia

because of over 8 million Syrian People were forced to move from Syria to Turkiye , Jordan , Lebanon , Egypt , Iraq and Europe by dictator Assad , Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia

now same senario in Idlib ..... dictator Assad , Iran , terrorist Hezbollah and Russia wants to kill 4 million Syrian People or to force them to move from their lands to Turkiye

You just proved my point without even realizing it. That shows who the idiot is. You are essentially saying Turkey decides who has right to Syria and not. You can pull the Sunni card all you want. Only sectarian fools will run behind it.