Erdogan surrenders to Putin

[riscol]

now extending it to 10 years unbelievable

 

[IblinI]

-- and PUTIN : ooh shit we are ready to meet in Moscow for ceasefire
-- ERDOGAN : Ok , we are coming to Moscow to solve Idlib problem with dialogue

Putin should be in Turkey if he is begging, isn't it?

 

[riscol]

Erdogan was the one who begged for a meeting and asked President Putin to come over but was instead summoned by Putin to come over to Moscow. President Putin setting the condition not Erdogan, lets be clear about this. Why did Erdogan trying to pressure the EU now by allowing the refugees to cross to the Greek border? No matter how some Turks spin it, Turkey is the one that's getting hammered.

 

[Hack-Hook]

You can see the results. Assad had S-300PMU2 stationed in north (its virtually same as S-400), Buks, Pantirs etc etc. Turks had only MANPADS and F-16.

Assad lost 3 jets, 2 jelicopters, 1 drone
Turks 4 drones.

Thats despite swarms of Turkish drones operated over Assad territory and zero Assad planes over Turkish territory.

And Turkey did not even use its AGM-88 and cruise missiles.

as far as I'm aware Russia gave Syria S-300pm from its own inventory not S-300PMU2 . are you sure about that PMU2 model ?
that mean only SA-10 standard not newer SA-20 so there won't be any 48N6, 9M96E1 and 9M96E2 missile no TVM Guidance no Anti balistic Missile Capabilities no 30N6E TOMB STONE radar and no 83M6E command and control system compared to PMU1
compared to PMU2 there wont be any 48N6E2 missile no 83M6E2 command and control system and no 30N6E2 fire control/illumination and guidance radar or 96L6E.
honestly they changed the capabilities of the system so much that it's impossible to determine how god the system is by hearing the S-300 alone

 

[MMM-E]

now extending it to 10 years unbelievable

Turkish UCAV technology performance was unbelievable


and I added the TF-X 5th generation Fighter Jet which is only a few countries in the world
by 2028 ATAK-II 10 ton class heavy Attack Helicopter which is only the US,Russia and Turkiye in the world

by 2027 almost 100% indigenous TF-2000 class Destroyer including 450km CAFRAD naval Radar which is only a few countries in the world

also GUMS anti Ballistic Missile Defense System , MILDEN class AIP Submarine and many more


TFX

ATAK-II

TF-2000

Erdogan was the one who begged for a meeting and asked President Putin to come over but was instead summoned by Putin to come over to Moscow. President Putin setting the condition not Erdogan, lets be clear about this.

Nah ........ PUTIN-ASSAD-ROUHANI dreamed about taking whole Idlib and forcing 4 million sunni muslim Syrians to move from Idlib to Turkiye

-- PUTIN : We have no plan for meeting ... Assad Regime will take whole Idlib
-- ERDOGAN : Ok , our military power will solve problem in Idlib

Turkish UCAV and Electronic Warfare technologies changed the game in Idlib
even Russia,Europe,India are dreaming about this UCAV and EW technologies


Bayraktar TB-2 and ANKA-S UCAVs killed over 3.200 of Regime militia including 6 generals and Iran backed terrorists in Idlib in one week

Bayraktar TB-2 and ANKA-S UCAVs destroyed 155 Tanks , 51 Howitzers , 52 MLRS , 29 AFVs , 68 Military Vehicles ,15 Anti Tank Weapons , 36 Pick-up mounted anti aircraft guns and 8 Air Defense Systems like PANTSIR-S1 , BUK-M2 in Idlib in one week ( 15% of Assad Regime military equipments )

also over 3500 Turkish Tanks,Howitzers,MLRS,IFVs and over 25.000 Turkish soldiers and over 20.000 Syrian National Army soldiers were ready for massive attack in Idlib


-- and PUTIN : ooh shit we are ready to meet in Moscow for ceasefire
-- ERDOGAN : Ok , we are coming to Moscow to solve Idlib problem with dialogue

 

[OldTwilight]

Dont make the failure to think, Russian are your ally.

The only friend Russia has is their own interests .... we knew this from start ...

 

[50cent]

Erdogan has given green light for airstrikes on fsa gangsters position

 

[Hack-Hook]

honnestly are you for real , build all the ship componnent yourself , but when it come to old Naval Cannon rely on Itally , wern't you working on a Rail Gun ? don't you think putting it there was a lot more useful than that Otobereda

won't that provide higher percision and higher rate of fire also allow the ship to carry alot more ammunition

 

[OldTwilight]

Turkey under pressure will break ceasefire and then it will get more punch ... after all , SAA is preparing herself as well ..

 

[vi-va]

Well first and foremost Idlib belong to Syria and they make decision whether you could be there or not ... right now they wanna take control of their own lands ... what is wrong with that? if they wanna their lands back then it means your presence there is no more legitimate or requested be it in any from.
On agreements:
Did you do your part of deal? we talked on roads.
Did Syrian agreed to hand out their lands to you in that agreement that you fight them in their lands? is it a part of deal?
Did those agreements gave right to Turkey to have observation posts or heavy military presence in there? bringing tanks, drones, troops? basis? or just policing? share these posts with those whom were not supposed to be there under Sochi?
Did the agreement let you to turn Idlib a place for terrorists? How long it was gonna take for Erdogan to separate HTS and Alnusra from the rest?and how long it is gonna take to see Syria get rid of these terrorists?

What started a while ago took place 2 years after Sochi agreement and Erdogan failed to meet his commitments.


Sectarian minds ...

loser can't swallow the pill. Erdogan failed but fanboy can't accept.

 

[MMM-E]

loser can't swallow the pill. Erdogan failed but fanboy can't accept.

ERDOGAN's Turkish Army took Idlib as like Afrin , Azaz , Jarablus , Dabıq , Al Bab , Rasulayn , Telabyad

also sooner or later Tel Rıfat , Munbij and Ayn al Arab


losers can keep dreaming about Pkk/Ypg terror state to destroy Syria's territorial integrity

honnestly are you for real , build all the ship componnent yourself , but when it come to old Naval Cannon rely on Itally

even France,Germany,Spain,India,Israel,S.Korea,Japan,Australia uses Italian Naval Cannon on their Frigates or Destroyers


Turkiye develops TUFAN and SAHI-209 Electromagnetic Railguns for Naval projects ( range of up to 200 km and speed of up to mach 8 )

also Electromagnetic Railgun technology is future concept of air defense mission

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey under pressure will break ceasefire and then it will get more punch ... after all , SAA is preparing herself as well ..

SAA is preparing herself go to Hell with Iran backed terrorists

Assad Regime-Iran made lethal mistake to attack Turkish Forces in Idlib

even Turkish Military used only 2% of its power

 

[Hack-Hook]

ERDOGAN's Turkish Army took Idlib as like Afrin , Azaz , Jarablus , Dabıq , Al Bab , Rasulayn , Telabyad

also sooner or later Tel Rıfat , Munbij and Ayn al Arab


losers can keep dreaming about Pkk/Ypg terror state to destroy Syri's territorial integrity





even France,Germany,Spain,India,Israel,S.Korea,Japan,Australia uses Italian Naval Cannon on their Frigates and Destroyers


Turkiye develops TUFAN and SAHI-209 Electromagnetic Railguns for Naval projects ( range of 200 km and speed of up to mach 8 )

also Electromagnetic Railgun technology is future concept of air defense mission

well about south korea in old yes but todays they use korean and American systems these are the producers of the systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Wia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanwha_Techwin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Land_&_Armaments

by the way Japan these days use thiese companies for its cannons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Land_&_Armaments
(well the design is from that company , they produce it locally under license)
well to be honnest in 70-90 they used Italian design but its 20 years they use locally produced BAE cannon

France uses Cannon provided by these companies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexter_Systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creusot-Loire
and yes they use Italian cannon but in their joint project with Italy

India uses these companies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TsKIB_SOO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burevestnik_Central_Scientific_Research_Institute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTO_Melara
but what I can't say they don't produce any cannon so they had to rely on Russia and Italy for that

Australia uses cannons from these providers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Land_&_Armaments
http://www.msi-dsl.com/

 

[TNT]

The very reason why Turkey army enter this Idlib battle is to secure more space or even whole Idlib for the rebel to continue their struggle against Assad. But upon this cease fire, the space in Idlib for rebel is even smaller and Aleppo highway is opened. None of the objective is achieved.

No, the very reason Turkey stepped in was because assad wanted to take over all of idlib, which would push millions into Turkey and Turkey wanted some area for refugees. Turkey's main concerns were refugees and PKK, thats it. Turkey doesnt want to take over aleppo or any wish of more land.

 

[MMM-E]

well about south korea in old yes but todays they use korean and American systems these are the producers of the systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Wia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanwha_Techwin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Land_&_Armaments

by the way Japan these days use thiese companies for its cannons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Land_&_Armaments
(well the design is from that company , they produce it locally under license)
well to be honnest in 70-90 they used Italian design but its 20 years they use locally produced BAE cannon

France uses Cannon provided by these companies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexter_Systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creusot-Loire
and yes they use Italian cannon but in their joint project with Italy

India uses these companies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TsKIB_SOO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burevestnik_Central_Scientific_Research_Institute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTO_Melara
but what I can't say they don't produce any cannon so they had to rely on Russia and Italy for that

Australia uses cannons from these providers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Land_&_Armaments
http://www.msi-dsl.com/

Indian KOLKOTA class Destroyer use Italian 76mm Otomelera Gun , Israeli MF-STAR Radar , French THALES
LW-08 D-band air search radar , Israeli BARAK-8 SAM

Indian SHIAVIK class Frigate use Italian 76mm Otomelera Gun , Israeli STAR Radar , Israeli BARAK-1 SAM

German SACHSEN class Frigate use Italian 76mm Otomelera Gun , THALES SMART-L Radar , American SM-2 and ESSM SAMs

French FREMM and HORIZON class Frigates use Italian 76mm Otomelera Gun

Japanese KONGO class Destroyer use Italian 127mm Otobreda Gun

Spanis F110 class Destroyer Italian 127mm Otobreda Gun , American AN/SPY7 Radar

so on , so on


Turkiye develops future technology ( Electromagnetic Railgun ) far harder than to develop naval gun

Turkiye has no money and time to develop all old technologies