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Erdogan: S-400 is a done deal. We will start co-production now and may work with S-500

China copied Soviet missile technology , Iran copied Soviet missile technology via China , Ukraine and N.Korea

I do not know about the software of this system to say whether it is copy or not, which I do not think it is. But the rest of the components of this system are not similar to any other products. radars are not similar, missiles are not similar, not even the truck carrying them is similar. You can see them in the photos.
 
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Turkey should have reviewed Russian airdefence system performance in Syria before going for it
 
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S400 is a purely political decision for Turkey. waste of money because we never can use it.
 
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Let me predict something .... Erdogan try to play both Russia and USA against each other but ultimately both of them will abandon turkey because :
1- Russian hate Turkey
2- USA doesn't want see Turkey more stronger that what it is now ...

the last Shah of Iran tried this strategy ( using both USA and Soviet ) in 1970s , it didn't goes well for him ... .
 
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Let me predict something .... Erdogan try to play both Russia and USA against each other but ultimately both of them will abandon turkey because :
1- Russian hate Turkey

-- Russia invest $35 billion in Turkey to build Nuclear Power Plant and TURKSTREAM Gas pipe line
-- Russia gives most lethal Air Defense System to Turkey to allow using the Turkish Radar software and IFF System
also co-production and Russia is ready co-operation for another military projects with Turkey
-- every year over 6 million Russian Tourists comes to Turkey for holiday
-- $100 billion trade volume target between Turkey and Russia

even yesterday Turkish and Russian Warships did military exercise in the Black Sea

so Russians dont hate Turkey ,,
 
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If Russia is working on s500 Pakistan should become party to it. Pakistan should fund it along with Russia and Turkey and get it.
Don't talk about funds please. Army has its resources for the things it wants to buy.
 
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these things are full of electronics and can be easily backstabbed by orijinal manufacturer, how can you trust them? Ruskies are our enemy for last 300 years. Our modern military was shaped against russia(soviet) , how can you be a blind that much to introduce a russian sofisticated system. Ruskies didnt deliver S300 to IRAN for 10 years, would they trust us more than iran?
 
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these things are full of electronics and can be easily backstabbed by orijinal manufacturer, how can you trust them? Ruskies are our enemy for last 300 years. Our modern military was shaped against russia(soviet) , how can you be a blind that much to introduce a russian sofisticated system. Ruskies didnt deliver S300 to IRAN for 10 years, would they trust us more than iran?
Russia export Natural gas to Turkey and its expected to double next 5-10 years. WHy would they want to make a problem with Turkey?
 
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so Russians dont hate Turkey ,,

They hate you but right now they have more benefit from working with you , so in their practical and opportunist mind , they just ignore their hatred toward you for time being ....

Russia export Natural gas to Turkey and its expected to double next 5-10 years. WHy would they want to make a problem with Turkey?

they expert gas to Turkey because if they don't , Turkey simply can ask Iran for this ...

these things are full of electronics and can be easily backstabbed by orijinal manufacturer, how can you trust them? Ruskies are our enemy for last 300 years. Our modern military was shaped against russia(soviet) , how can you be a blind that much to introduce a russian sofisticated system. Ruskies didnt deliver S300 to IRAN for 10 years, would they trust us more than iran?

first , we never had good relationship with Russians , IR just acting like these because they made so many unnecessary enemy around the world for Iran .... most of Iranians , rightfully , don't trust Russia ....
 
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They hate you but right now they have more benefit from working with you , so in their practical and opportunist mind , they just ignore their hatred toward you for time being

I dont think so Russia or Russians hate Turkey ... have you ever been in Russia ? or do you have Russian friends ?

I very well know about Russia and Russian People and Russian language
Russian People dont hate the Turks and Turkey , over 6 million Russian tourists comes to Turkey for holiday ( Russian tourists in top )

about Russia , for example since 1972 Turkish construction companies built thousands of projects for $355 billion in 119 countries and Russia is in top , and $67 billion of $355 billion from Russia

also do you know what about Russians and their important role in the establishment of the Republic of Turkey ?

Bolsheviks ( Russians ) helped the Turks during the Turkish War of Independence in 1921
Turks bought Weapons from Russians to fight Greeks,British,French and Armenians
( 39.000 rifles, 327 machine guns, 54 cannons, 63 million rifle bullets, 147.000 cannon shells, garments etc )

even in 1921 friendship and brotherhood agreement has been signed between the Russians and the Turks
According to this agreement yet established the Republic of Turkey for the Turkish nation Russians will help to win freedom from foreign invaders

in 1921 The Russian Government has donated all the necessary equipment for the establishment of a bullet production factory in Ankara, still known as MKE

also in 1921 two Russian warships have been donated to Turkey

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There are two Russians on the right of ATATURK in the memorial of Taksim /Istanbul
These people are famous Russian marshal Kliment Voroshilov with the famous KGB founder Mihail Frunze


even the US always blocked Turkey to become developed country
but Russia built first textile factories , first iron and steel factories including steel mills , also petroleum refining factory , first aluminum factory and many more in Turkey

today Turkey is number 1 in Europe for textile production and Turkey is number 2 in Europe for steel production

and Russia invest $35 billion in Turkey to build the first nuclear power plant in Turkey also TURKSTREAM Gas pipe line

and Russia again gives most lethal weapons such as S400 Air Defense Systems to Turkey against the US-the UK-France backed Greece+Egypt+Israel and PKK/YPG Terrorists

and Russia is ready for another military projects including to develop Fighter Jet and Turbofan Engine


Russians always wanted to work with the Turks and today PUTIN and ERDOGAN are good friends
 
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The F-35s assigned to Turkey should go to Poland I guess.
 
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The F-35s assigned to Turkey should go to Poland I guess.

also American bases , soldiers ,equipments and AN/TPY2 Radar in Turkey should go to Poland
then Russians will come to Turkey with their soldiers ,equipments and most lethal weapons

slave Americans still dont know Turkey's importance in NATO , and slave Americans still working for Israeli interests

the US lose Turkey to Russia and the US will cry for it in the next 100 years , most of Americans very well knows about it but zionist lobby rules PENTAGON , CIA even TRUMP
 
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also American bases , soldiers ,equipments and AN/TPY2 Radar in Turkey should go to Poland

slave Americans still dont know Turkey's importance in NATO , and slave Americans still working for Israeli interests

the US lose Turkey to Russia and the US will cry for it in the next 100 years , most of Americans very well knows about it but zionist lobby rules PENTAGON , CIA even TRUMP

I don't want to lose Turkey. But rhey won't be in NATO if they choose not to be. We can't force them.

It's NATO or Russia.
 
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I don't want to lose Turkey. But rhey won't be in NATO if they choose not to be. We can't force them.

It's NATO or Russia.

Our so-called NATO allies the US,the UK,France,Germany supports PKK Terrorists who killed over 40.000 Turkish people including childs and women to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity

also Our so-called NATO allies the US,the UK,France,Germany supports YPG Terrorists in Syria to create terror coridor to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity

even I am not talking about the US/NATO backed FETO terrorist organization tried to destroy future of Turkish people for American/Israeli interests ( failed coup attempt by the US/the UK/Germany backed FETO Terrorist Organization )

also Our so-called NATO allies the US,the UK,France,Germany supports Greece,Egypt,Israel against Turkey in the Eastern Mediterranean to steal gas reserves from the Turks


Our so-called NATO allies the US,the UK,France,Germany wants to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity
and Our so-called NATO allies the US,the UK,France,Germany force Turkey to be allies with Russia

and they are crying that Turkey is working with Russia
so what ? do you think the Turks are stupid to allow Our so-called NATO allies the US,the UK,France,Germany to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity ? if so then Americans,British,French,Germans are stupid

Turkey never will allow Our so-called NATO allies the US,the UK,France,Germany to create terror coridor in N.Syria to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity for Israeli interests
 
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The US has prepared for this for 2 years. We don't think you are bluffing, the Turks are not known for BS. But we aren't either.

Oh well.
 
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