Erdogan: Islam needs to be updated. You cannot apply Islam with laws from 14 centuries ago.

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Well, frankly most of them call me a 'kaffir'

Unlike their ignorance of the Islam in calling you so, I can factually blame them for being in a shirk to Allah.

As you know regardless of society, location or religion many preicous minds have been killed by the ignorant on the name of the ''holly''.

so maybe I am not the guy to answer your question but since you I feel obliged to answer it. I could sum it simple or go for a full thesis. I choose the former. This is how I would describe islam in Pakistan.

• Anything against what might be considered western mixed with everything that might be considered Saudia Arabian. Mix the two and the cocktail is 'Pakistani Islam'.

The birth of The Islam in Pakistan and its introduction to Pakistani people has since then brought some luggages in front of Pakistan for developments in many fields regardless of politic relationship with another country.

 

[shah_123]

Unlike their ignorance of the Islam in calling you so, I can factually blame them for being in a shirk to Allah.

As you know regardless of society, location or religion many preicous minds have been killed by the ignorant on the name of the

See the rule is very simply,
if someone denies any basics of Islam + anything which is made legal by ALLAH swt' or he legalizes anything which is made illegal by ALLAH swt', he is out of the fold of Islam ( you can confirm this from any Scholars of Islam)

Unfortunately, the western mixed types say anything without thinking the consequences they will have to face in hereafter- but making takfir is a serious issue and should be left to the scholars.

Saudi wahabi types are minority but the western types try to sell the idea that majority are influenced by Saudi types, this is not correct.

Majority of Pakistanis (are Sunnis like Turks) follow just the basics like Salah, Ramadan, Zakat, Hajj ; they don't know anything beyond this.

''.birth of The Islam in Pakistan and its introduction to Pakistani people has since then brought some luggages in front of Pakistan for developments in many fields regardless of politic relationship with another country.

Please elaborate.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

See the rule is very simply,
if someone denies any basics of Islam + anything which is made legal by ALLAH swt' or he legalizes anything which is made illegal by ALLAH swt', he is out of the fold of Islam ( you can confirm this from any Scholars of Islam)

Unfortunately, the western mixed types say anything without thinking the consequences they will have to face in hereafter- but making takfir is a serious issue and should be left to the scholars.

Saudi wahabi types are minority but the western types try to sell the idea that majority are influenced by Saudi types, this is not correct.

Majority of Pakistanis (are Sunnis like Turks) follow just the basics like Salah, Ramadan, Zakat, Hajj ; they don't know anything beyond this.

Unless a clear vocal rejection to ears, a person is still considered under the umberalla of the Islam. FYI, ''Scholars'' are a contoversial subject for me dependent on the place they are put in the Islam.

No one can judge or do anything to the person in sphere of his/her own existance, but Allah; otherwise suits the definition of shirk.

Please elaborate.

Religons are the guides for human beings in ''wild'' nature and society; therefore perception of any religion is to some extent dependent on these two, which bring many confrontations, which are mainly seen in traditions.

 

[shahbaz baig]

Unless a clear vocal rejection to ears, a person is still considered under the umberalla of the Islam. FYI, ''Scholars'' are a contoversial subject for me dependent on the place they are put in the Islam.

No one can judge or do anything to the person in sphere of his/her own existance, but Allah; otherwise suits the definition of shirk.



Religons are the guides for human beings in ''wild'' nature and society; therefore perception of any religion is to some extent dependent on these two, which bring many confrontations, which are mainly seen in traditions.

sorry i am late i have an idea to update system in the name of islam..

why not do it like this way:

1. Promote democracy simillar to sharia.. And spread this news Globly, people should understand that muslims see democracy as sharia.. And announce the specific name to distinguish other democratic world from democratic muslim world with the name "sharia democracy".

2. After getting popularity for the specific word "sharia democracy".. Tell the world that we are going to reform sharia democracy.. In which we will no longer prefer the "interest rate". Our banks will only work on behalf of profit and loss in any business. And start working on it.

Then take action against pornoghraphy and further against etc etc accroding to islam.. In the end you will have real sharia system... economically, politically, spritually, morally. Strategically, scientifically.

 

[shah_123]

Unless a clear vocal rejection to ears, a person is still considered under the umberalla of the Islam. FYI, ''Scholars'' are a contoversial subject for me dependent on the place they are put in the Islam.

No one can judge or do anything to the person in sphere of his/her own existance, but Allah; otherwise suits the definition of shirk.



Religons are the guides for human beings in ''wild'' nature and society; therefore perception of any religion is to some extent dependent on these two, which bring many confrontations, which are mainly seen in traditions.

Yes I agree with you and already said that takfir is a very serious issue. Imam Abu Hanifah used to make so many excuses for the person suspected for out of fold of Islam.

but unfortunately in the times we are living, rejection has become a norm. Western types clearly reject and our ears hear as clear as it could be.I really feel sorry for them.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Yes I agree with you and already said that takfir is a very serious issue. Imam Abu Hanifah used to make so many excuses for the person suspected for out of fold of Islam.

but unfortunately in the times we are living, rejection has become a norm. Western types clearly reject and our ears hear as clear as it could be.I really feel sorry for them.

For the bolded... What do you reffer to?

 

[shah_123]

religions are the guides for human beings in ''wild'' nature and society; therefore perception of any religion is to some extent dependent on these two, which bring many confrontations, which are mainly seen in traditions.

Say, a society practices Islamic laws, they believe in the global domination of socio-politico-economic system of Islam -

What perception of such humans and society would go to the world, terrorists-extremists-backwards etc.,

For the bolded... What do you reffer to?

Liberals/seculars or the ones ashamed of own religion, Islam.

 

[LordTyrannus]

Ardoughan is a 33 degree freemason of scotish rite.

He was implememted to rule district 4230 for the illuminati world order

İstanbul district 4220
Agean coast 4240
Anatolia 4230

 

[OguzSenturk]

http://www.haberturk.com/61-ile-kadin-muftu-yardimcisi-1897401

Diyanet Institution to appoint female vice-mufti in 61 cities of Turkey.

I expected much more faster reform. Hopefully government will not abandon this reform after a year or so.

 

[El Sidd]

So how is updating Islam going on for Mr. Erdogan?

 

[aziqbal]

Did he really say that if so someone post the video?

 

[xbat]

Yes he said on 8 March 2018, world woman day ,see the video below , sorry it is turkish

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Yes we need to update many things in Islam, equality of woman such as to allow woman pray in masjid in same row of men.
Also need to update sharia law with new judicial system. Bringing 4 people for evidence is not possible. Reforms needed in many areas.
Also need to eliminate Diyat blood money system , to bring rich & poor culprit in same line.
Also Islam should allow to marry with non Muslims. It’s matter of pure love , love & humanity is above than all.

 

[aziqbal]

For public consumption?

What are the religious guys saying ?

 

[El Sidd]

Yes we need to update many things in Islam, equality of woman such as to allow woman pray in masjid in same row of men.
Also need to update sharia law with new judicial system. Bringing 4 people for evidence is not possible. Reforms needed in many areas.
Also need to eliminate Diyat blood money system , to bring rich & poor culprit in same line.
Also Islam should allow to marry with non Muslims. It’s matter of pure love , love & humanity is above than all.

When are you going to the local mosque and declaring that over the microphone?