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Enough is bloody enough :: some hard questions to our military Estabilishment

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Silence is not an option


Enough is bloody enough! Enough of deafening silence as our people, women, men and children, are mercilessly killed and maimed and widowed and orphaned by cold-blooded murderers and their handlers and motivators.

How many more Safwat Ghayyurs and Mushtaq Baigs and Faisal Alvis and Malik Saads and Abid Alis and Khan Raziqs will have to die before those who are equipped and paid to prevent, or at the very least anticipate attacks such as those that killed these fine men, will begin to do their jobs? Whilst I have started this piece with the mention of officers in the service of Pakistan, I am by no means making light of the deaths of thousands of nameless innocents such as the women and children in Meena Bazaar, Peshawar, or the hungry poor at Data Darbar, Lahore.

It is time that all of us Pakistanis stood up and loudly asked the establishment a raft of hard, even unpalatable to it, questions and demand answers.

We must ask why it is that not a single suicide-jacket maker has been apprehended and prosecuted in all the years !!??? that these beasts have been going about their ghastly business. We must ask why not even one explosives supplier has been caught and brought before a court of law.!?? We must ask why not one, just one, motivator has been exposed and locked up so that he may not spread his poison any more.!!???

We must ask why not even one facilitator, people who move these mindless creatures with explosives strapped to their bodies from one place to another, has been arrested and put away. !!? Or why even one suicide attack or car bombing has not been prevented by our much-praised ‘agencies’!!??. We must ask why high-profile officers such as young Safwat Ghayyur were not provided such intelligence cover as would have uncovered the surely elaborate plan hatched by the terrorists to get this officer. ??

We must ask how it was that the man who apparently fit the profile of a suicide bomber almost perfectly: young, hanging about outside a sensitive agency (the Frontier Constabulary headquarters) waiting for his quarry; probably wild-eyed, entered Peshawar cantonment in the first place. I went to Peshawar a few weeks ago and it took my wife and I and our driver a full three minutes of questioning, checking of our ID cards, opening the hood and the dickey of the car, having a soldier peer into the car and so on, before we were let through just one barricade. There were three within the cantonment before we got to where we were going and the procedure was repeated at each one, albeit in abbreviated fashion. So how did that misguided, mindless youth stroll into the secure area to do his dreadful deed?


We must ask too, what is the very first duty of any agency of any state?? Surely it is the protection of its own people first and foremost, and as the end result of that the protection of the country as a whole. We must ask if our much-talked-about agencies are succeeding in these primary duties. We must ask if the attacks that have robbed so many of our people of their very lives are the direct result of a massive and ongoing intelligence failure. The frank answer is that the ‘agencies’ have failed and are failing all ends up in doing their primary duty: witness the audacious attacks by terrorists at any target of their choosing anywhere in the country, including that holy of holies, the GHQ. Including, indeed, on installations, and the transport, of the ISI itself.

Which reminds me. There is an email doing the rounds that tells us that our ISI is the best intelligence agency in the whole wide world. The ranking of the world’s intelligence agencies according to this email is as follows: our very own ISI (and more strength to it, I say), Mossad (Israel), MI-6 (UK), the CIA (US), MSS (China), BND (Germany), FSB (Russia), DGSE (France), RAW (India) and ASIS (Australia). Two immediate questions come to mind. If the ISI is really as good as it is made out to be, how come our country is in the state it is in? Second, if RAW is as bad as to be the 9th worst intelligence agency in the world, how come it can pull off actions as diverse as bombing Data Darbar and R.A. Bazaar in Lahore and Lahore cantonment respectively; arming and provisioning Baloch separatists; and attacking our Ahmadi brothers in their mosques in Lahore? Could it be that RAW is not as bad as the list would have us believe, and the ISI not that good?

Jokes aside, however, we must ask the hard questions and also make demands of our agencies, paid as they are from our taxes and revenue. The very first is to say to them to please secure our own country first and then attempt to project Pakistani power across our borders, say in Afghanistan. It is to say, please use all the significant resources at your command — the list referred to also tells us that the ISI has up to 10,0000 (I kid you not) operatives worldwide — to at the very least open the Thal-Parachinar road so that the poor people who live in Parachinar do not have to get to their homes via Kabul, Afghanistan.

May I say please, sirs, sort out the criminal terrorists in your own country before you attempt to broker peace between Karzai and (some of) the Taliban. May I say please, sirs, if you cannot secure your own country how can you possibly have the gall to boss the neighbourhood around? Look inwards, sirs, at the veritable mess this poor country is in and do something about it. Surely you know that the last time the Parachinar road was opened, 10 men and six women were killed and eight men (all of them our Shia brothers and sisters, please note) were taken as hostages. At least find out where these poor hostages are, and have them released. Surely being number one you can do it.
 
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ok so you want publicity stunt?? people have been caught!! unlike our neighbors we don't want to make everything media news! we catch terrorists interrogate them BUT NOT ON TV!!!

& if anyone is failing it is our GOVERNMENT which is not providing for the poor hence frustrating them to vandalism or terrorism!
 
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ice_man ;; & if anyone is failing it is our GOVERNMENT which is not providing for the poor hence frustrating them to vandalism or terrorism !/
Dont derail this thread , if you want to ask govt open a new thread
 
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ok so you want publicity stunt?? people have been caught!! unlike our neighbors we don't want to make everything media news! we catch terrorists interrogate them BUT NOT ON TV!!!

And this is exactly where the problem is !!! Hiding the problems under the carpet away from the public is the worst thing that could happen..when these happens , there is loss of accountability, lack of transparency and gross mistrust is created.

Everything with exception of confidential state secrets should stand trial in front of the common people -- in front of the media -- why should military or government hide it ? After all the common people have elected them. When this happens then only the leaders/people who are heading organizations would have accountability -- otherwise they would be run as their own personal fiefdom.
 
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Another piece of art from Kamran Shafi.

He will always ask from the military, always has problems with the military, always sees problems in the military.

Never will ask what are the foreign forces doing in Afghanistan, what duplicity the US/NATO is showing, what is the Indian / Afghan intelligence nexus doing in Afghanistan, etc etc.

He always has problems with PA only.

Pathetic at best.
 
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I totally agree with u bro i been saying this from really long time all wat is happening in pakistan is the dirty work of our so called great general especially Pervez Musharraf

we r suffring today n that bastard is setting in england enjoy every bit of it.....our gernerals like musharraf are as bad as any civilian government like zardari
 
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In the lack of total crediblity of civilian government, the army has establish itself "higher and thou" institute where they have specialized everything for themselves while a common man lies layer below. This dangerous trend if not rectified would turn us into another iraq. We need to open political studies institutes for graduating our politicians before they are eligible to sit in parliment.
 
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well to be honest it is military and establishments jobs to protect us , who cares whats happening abroad , they are paid to protect Pakistanis and Pakistan , so the questions must be raised , less on military personal but rather on military establishment , special high level of intelligence failure ,and last but not least the highly incompetent Home ministry who is most responsible for all this mess today then any one .
 
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Ban any foreign preachers entering or lecturing the country specially form Saudi Arabia , iran , libya and Lebanon. close all wahabi ,deobandi run madrassahs , stop mosques used for personal politics , control telecommunications between religious parties , come extremely hard on pro taliban factors , stop media for showing misleading and aplogistic programs like arrivals .
Totlay ban religious or any sort of student bodies . capture all the run away of lal masjid dead or alive . and equip our military and police but also interduce the culture where they learn to use the equipment . and just sit on it and scratch there A**** all the time .
 
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The problem with Pakistan is that there is no justice.

If there is no justice, there will inevitably be no peace.
 
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Ban any foreign preachers entering of lecturing the country specially form Saudi Arabia , iran , libya and Lebanon. close all wahabi ,deobandi run madrassahs , stop mosques used for personal politics , control telecommunications between religious parties , come extremely hard of pro taliban factors , stop media for showing misleading and aplogistic programs like arrivals .
Totlay ban religious or any sort of student bodies . capture all the run away of lal masjid dead or alive . and equip our military and police but also interduce the culture where they learn to use the equipment . and just sit on it and scratch there A**** all the time .

Sounds like your suffering from Walter Mitty syndrome.

The minute any of that is ever enforced you'll see the instant dissolution of Pakistan as a country.
 
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Another piece of art from Kamran Shafi.

He will always ask from the military, always has problems with the military, always sees problems in the military.

Never will ask what are the foreign forces doing in Afghanistan, what duplicity the US/NATO is showing, what is the Indian / Afghan intelligence nexus doing in Afghanistan, etc etc.

He always has problems with PA only.

Pathetic at best.

Seems like you have more problems with Shafi Sahab than Shafi Sahab has with PA. :lol:
 
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Ban any foreign preachers entering of lecturing the country specially form Saudi Arabia , iran , libya and Lebanon. close all wahabi ,deobandi run madrassahs , stop mosques used for personal politics , control telecommunications between religious parties , come extremely hard of pro taliban factors , stop media for showing misleading and aplogistic programs like arrivals .
Totlay ban religious or any sort of student bodies . capture all the run away of lal masjid dead or alive . and equip our military and police but also interduce the culture where they learn to use the equipment . and just sit on it and scratch there A**** all the time .

true !!! if it happens pakistan is a paradise
but i ll disagree on one point .... why capturing students of lal masjid :frown:
 
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