Eight killed in suspected sectarian shooting in Kurram

[pak-marine]

upto an extent you are right ... i think its better just call murderer a Murderer not relate their religion along with their crimes

 

[seekers]

killing shia is very old job of these yazidis.Their forefathers are doing that for last 1400 years.

 

[AstanoshKhan]

The title of the news said ''suspected sectarian''. Why everyone here is jumping to give judgmental statements and putting all the blames on Sunnis and other Muslims other than Shias? They could have been killed in personal enmity within their family? Shia and Sunnis were/are living in that part of the country for ages peacefully, this rift has been seen among those innocent people when PA and ISI start nurturing those Jihadi organisations to achieve their sinister objectives, no matter how you twist the facts on hand, you'll always get to the head of the curse i.e Holy-ISI and using religion for deception is something they have PhD in.

 

[BoseDK]

The Kurram Agency and specially Hangu is the Pakistani version of Gaza

the Shias there constantly hunted and murdered and the valid targets include women and children as well

Imran Khan and jamaat Islami always say that the terrorism started in Pakistan because of our part in American War on Terror and American presence
but ask these people, they are being murdered for decades even before this word "war on terror" was coined.

the lure of bedding with 72 virgins is so tempting that the glorious Sipah Sahabah and Lashker Jhagvi wont even spare children and women
for a change of taste they have started killing the main stream Sunnis specially the Beralvis just to give the feeling to rest of us how these people of Hangu have been suffering for decades. the Parachinar/ hangu are constantly surrounded and under siege by the fanatic tribes hell bent on eliminating the Shias who they consider as kafirs.

Imran Khan and Jammat Islami wont mind if these terrorist only continue to kill these people once Pakistan army stops operation against them.

The shias travel in conveys sometimes “escorted” by police and Army but that doesn’t stop Jihadis of Islam from killing 5 to 15 of them and sending them to hell and adding more virgins in their bank once they will be eventually “martyred” by Pakistan Army.

What i sthe reason that sunnis/deobandis consider themselves as more pure than the inferior shias? What is theie motivation and doctrine?

 

[BoseDK]

upto an extent you are right ... i think its better just call murderer a Murderer not relate their religion along with their crimes

The pretext was religion. SO you cannot seggregate the two and cover your face in say nothing happened.

 

[GUNS-N- ROSES]

sad RIP to dead.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

RIP .

death to the fukin terrorists..

 

[pak-marine]

The pretext was religion. SO you cannot seggregate the two and cover your face in say nothing happened.

wtf are you on about .. bothered reading the thread and earlier replies ?

 

[BoseDK]

wtf are you on about .. bothered reading the thread and earlier replies ?

upto an extent you are right ... i think its better just call murderer a Murderer not relate their religion along with their crimes

I am contesting your preposition that religion is not involved in these murders. Clearly the attackers had no personal score settling nor did they had any intention of looting. The shia were killed because the sunni religious fanatics thought that they were inpure breed and waji-bull-cattle. Am I wrong?

You seem to divert the focus and make it look like a plain murder. But the fact it is that it is gruesome mass murder based upon religious pretext of extremist deobandi/salafi IEDology.

 

[American Pakistani]

What i sthe reason that sunnis/deobandis consider themselves as more pure than the inferior shias? What is theie motivation and doctrine?

I am Sunni & i love every Pakistan no matter what ethnic or religion he belong, those who killed these innocent people are enemies of Pakistan, & i hate them from core of my heart.

 

[Evil Flare]

killing shia is very old job of these yazidis.Their forefathers are doing that for last 1400 years.

i don't get you perhaps you can explain in details with some facts ....

 

[seekers]

i don't get you perhaps you can explain in details with some facts ....

I also don't get this fact that 100,000 companions presence in Last khutba of Holy Prophet(SAWW) and only 9 companions were participate in Prophet(SAWW)'s Janazah ( Funeral) . Can you explain that????.
their are so many excuse but nothing one is justified ,ultimately they wrote in history that their was no funeral of Prophet(SAWW) (nauzobilah)

 

[Irfan Baloch]

What i sthe reason that sunnis/deobandis consider themselves as more pure than the inferior shias? What is theie motivation and doctrine?

there is no such thing. please dont try to fan some flame here.
to answer your question the disagreements are only on some interpretations but basic beliefs that make the core concepts and fundamentals of Islamic faith are the same and unchanged since its inception.

Like any other faith like Christianity, Judaism , Hindusim etc there are differences in jurisprudence but as the way you have portrayed it.

A bigot is a bigot, he can be a hindu lala like Bal Thakray & RSS or some Mullah of Lal Musjid or a Mullah fazlullah & TTP. These guys use religion or sect as a basis to impose their will on people. It doesn’t necessarily mean that the other people of the same faith approve their violent behaviour.

All Sunni & shia sects consider their school of jurisprudence better than the other so it works both ways like I said earlier the argument is not on basic beliefs that makes one a Muslim.

Re religious terrorists, it just happens that these are manily Deobandis (lal masjid, TTP, Taliban, Sipah Sahabah etc) and are inspired by Al Qaeda’s Salafi / Wahabi ideology that takes the jurisprudence differences to a violent level while doing so they negate the very essence and essentials of Islam by resorting to violence against all people who are unfortunate to be around them.

Like I said these guys are a special breed and for them sunni or shia or nonmuslim makes no difference if their victim doesn’t follow their philosophy then he is a fair target like anyone from the west.

In the end I Must say that I condemn the terrorism and loss of life regardless of the fact if its perpetrated by people in uniforms of regular armies or terror groups.

i don't get you perhaps you can explain in details with some facts ....

dear Zia if you really dont know this story yet then you might never ever find out.
to give you a hint it starts from the battle of Badr, when Banu Hashim slayed the banu Umaiyatst to battle of Ohad then Karbala and it goes on to this day.
Prophet Muhammad PBUH had prophesied about them and their fitna. You might want to read more about the Kharjites (they call themselves TTP in Pakistan). I am sure there are a lot of videos about them and the najadi/ salifs as well. These people are targeting ordinary muslims hence sunnis and shias are their constant targets everywhere be it mosques, shrines, or homes, roads, and shops.

lets just condemn the attack with same force and sincierty like we would if some Sunnis had been killed. and pray togher that Pakistan Army kills these terrorists soon.

because my dear these same people might be travelling to Punjab and Karachi to kill more civilians.

I am contesting your preposition that religion is not involved in these murders. Clearly the attackers had no personal score settling nor did they had any intention of looting. The shia were killed because the sunni religious fanatics thought that they were inpure breed and waji-bull-cattle. Am I wrong?

You seem to divert the focus and make it look like a plain murder. But the fact it is that it is gruesome mass murder based upon religious pretext of extremist deobandi/salafi IEDology.

yes there is that element but its not shared by every Salafi, otherwise Saudis would have announced a Jihad on the rest of the Isalamic world. its like catholics vs Protestants and their past to present fights in Ireland

our debates remain at Munazera level only (a Scholarly debate ) whoever crosses this line and brings in violence and murder is a common criminal using religon or faith as an excuse

 

[Leader]

Irfan Baloch you should know that the peace between Shia and Suni was broken in Musharraf regime... otherwise the peace agreement 1984 was intact between the two.

 

[seekers]

Irfan Baloch you should know that the peace between Shia and Suni was broken in Musharraf regime... otherwise the peace agreement 1984 was intact between the two.

Their were no peace problem before taliban intervention because Shia are in majority their. Problem were start when taliban had come from Afghanistan to support sunni tribes against Shia.They had encircled the Parachinar and cut off road connection from other Pakistan. Shia are using Afghanistan route to come even in Pakistan for last many years.