aziqbal
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And what is 22 x 7=?
154 missiles which is what I said
SSGN is not same as SSBN
That Ohio Class in Suez is a SSGN
It DOES NOT carry nuclear missiles
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And what is 22 x 7=?
154 missiles which is what I said
SSGN is not same as SSBN
That Ohio Class in Suez is a SSGN
It DOES NOT carry nuclear missiles
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I really hope your participation (even in this forum as a whole since I noticed that you joined in April of this year and only have 6 posts so far) increases in due time. Not because of the opinion you support of Egypt and its armed forces are positive, as in this terrific post, but because of the articulation you provided is exemplary and even if it is in the form of constructive criticism -- to which all of us Egyptian welcome with open arms -- would be appreciated even more. It's refreshing to see commentary at this level of understanding instead of the usual banter. Cheers.
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@The SC @Ghostkiller @Hydration @Gomig-21 @Total Destruction
Genuine question. What do regular Egyptians think of their government blocking this vote?
Genuine question. What do regular Egyptians think of their government blocking this vote?
I guess Egypt is in a bind. Not recognising Israel would nullify the Sinai agreement.
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Really dumb desicion to cut off ties as Egypt is the main negotiator for these conflicts
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Egypt is the only state negotiator that negotiate in the same time Hamas leaders but also with the Israeli gov. Our negotiator is Abbas Kamel, Chief of the General Intelligence Directorate of Egypt (he is like the Director of the CIA), he talks with Hamas Leaders like Ismail Haniyeh (the head of Hamas political branch) and the Mossad. El Sisi doesn't want to talk with Benjamin Netanyahu because there is tensions between them and they refuse to talk to each other.
You must have a direct contacts so you can end this war as soon as possible.
Ofc Regular Egyptians are against Israel or anything related to it. But sometimes you must go against the will of the population so you can preserve your state's interests. Same thing with Sadat in 1978 (Camp David Accords), the people hated this decision to recognize Israel but at the end we got our land back and now Sadat is considered as a hero. We say about Sadat : رجل الحرب والسلام = Man of war and peace
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Yup I saw it. But does India produce it locally?Yet another Shameless Tejas plug
Al-Tariq PGM for Tejas in Dubai Air Show
Don't you guys use it with your Mirages, I thought you guys produce it locally.
Egyptian Air Force Deploys with South African PGMs | Defense.info
The Egyptian Air Force (EAF) has acquired Denel-designed Al Tariq precision guided munitions (PGMs) and is now deploying them on its Mirage 2000 and F-16 Fighting Falcon combat jets. Mirage 2000s were first seen carrying Al Tariq weapons during the Qader 2021 exercise at the beginning of July...
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We already have an indigenous replacement in place, it's called PGHSLD. Al Tariq is integrated purely for export purposes
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There is some rumors saying that we are producing it locally.Don't you guys use it with your Mirages, I thought you guys produce it locally.
Egyptian Air Force Deploys with South African PGMs | Defense.info
The Egyptian Air Force (EAF) has acquired Denel-designed Al Tariq precision guided munitions (PGMs) and is now deploying them on its Mirage 2000 and F-16 Fighting Falcon combat jets. Mirage 2000s were first seen carrying Al Tariq weapons during the Qader 2021 exercise at the beginning of July...
We already have an indigenous replacement in place, it's called PGHSLD. Al Tariq is integrated purely for export purposes
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@PakistaniandProud , before I give you my version of the answer to the great question you asked because it will be a rather lengthy one as is my style lool, but first, I want to acknowledge @jhungary for the terrific input he volunteered to propose even though he never even needed to spend his valuable time and offer such a well-thought-out & detailed explanation on a super cool tactical method by a pair of Indian & Egyptian SOF exercises. And I also wanted him to know that I will be responding to his input in due time since he, unlike a few others on this board who "shamelessly pretend" to be ex-military and ARE NOT and I have called them out on it, and I was right. While @jhungary is not only full-fledged ex-military but has served honorably in an exemplary manner (and believe me i can tell in a millisecond lol) and the least he deserves is the recognition of a rebuttal to the question posed to him, especially on tactical training aspect of the discussion I was having with another exemplary member @Faceless .
That said. I think the decision by the 9 countries that blocked all ties with Israel SUCKS to high hell!!! Of course, after seeing the countless children and women being massacred & trapped under rubble and babies with white phosphorous burns all over their faces in sell-shocked from the constant and relentless bombardment is more than enough to not only block whatever stupidity they wanted to vote on but should declare full war! Period! just like the Houthis whom I can't imagine are able to walk the streets with the size of those testicleless that must be dragging all over the street!
But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,here's the difference between all of us reactionary fellas (I won't speak for you specifically) but for everyone on this board is that thankfully these are the people who are in charge of making those unpopular decisions of NOT going to war and exhausting all means of diplomacy first, unlike the slipper-wearing Houthis who mark my words will get their military installations and other barracks and government buildings obliterated by a mere handful of F/A18s & even F-35s and the half their stock of Tomoakawk missiles for daring to be macho camachos and firing whatever it was they threw at Tel Aviv. Mark my words, and if it doesn't happen, I will eat crow in front of all of you! Not only will it take 1/2 a squadron of E/F-18 Super Hornet accompanied by a half dozen of EA-18G Growlers and maybe 2, 3 F-35s at the most lol to set that poor country back 6 Millinia.
That said, these people at this conference who voted NO are in a position where they have A LOT more to consider as far as consequences to whatever actions they agree on, be it selfish or considerate, they don't want to see their countries destroyed to appease a bunch of keyboard warriors acting on the righteous impulse with no consequence to them sitting in the United States or the UK or even Pakistan. Or the protesters all over the world or even their people. That is why they're elected to be responsible to look out for their OWN country first.
If the solution is no gaddam simple, then why hasn't Eypt, Jordan, Saudiya, UAE, Pakistan, Libya, the Taliban who've sgine 1 million bananas to go fight for the Palestinians including the 5 million BRAVE Iranians who signed petition to give their lives been allowed to make it at least to Syria to fight the filthy zioniazis? You know why? Because even the "tireheads" I borrowed that from the great @Yawm al-qiyama know what's BEST for their OWN country! And that's the bottom line and my answer to you and I welcome any rebuttal, my friend. But I hope it made sense.
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lol, thanks for the mention, I know we didn't see eye to eye on some issue, but I think nobody in this world would be completely agreeing with anyone else, and as long as we keep the decorum, it's alright, I mean, we are all here for the same reason, is to learn and share. I don't think of it like if you disagree with me, then you are wrong and I am right, disagreeing sometime is just that, I don't agree.
That said, as I mentioned before, I am just passing by and put in my 2 cents into a topic I think I know something about. It's not really anything and glad that you see it as a positive contribution. Problem with today world, it's far too easy to obtain information, in which anyone can claim they are whatever they claim they are, that is not something new, just harder to separate the real deal and the fake now since we basically can learn everything on the internet. And yes, there are countless shameless people out there that claim to be ex-service, and try to pass this on for whatever reason. If you ask me tho, I will probably never understand why people would want to do that, maybe they think being a soldier is all shiny uniform and get to ride big tank? Well, I've done both, and it's not really that glorious.......
People who served know and can smell fake from a long mile away, I will let you know a little secret on how to tell fake from real, what I used to do when I doubt someone who had served is just go ask them a very inconsequential question, one that you will never thought of, hence you would never be prepared, but you will most definitely experienced it if you are a real deal. I usually just ask them how you go do number 2 when you are in war? Most people that are fake didn't think it thought and will be stunned or hesitated to answer this, if the "umms" or "errs" start coming out on someone mouth, that is a fake, because if you had done it, you know immediately how to answer this. Because this is like everything in battle, well, in life really, if you had done it, which you have to otherwise there is some serious health concern there...., you will never hesitate to answer it, it's natural, I mean you don't think how do you poop every day, right? And for those of you who wonder how we actually take a dump in battle, well, we just go, take a MRE box or a carton and sit/squat on it and do the deed, sometime in the heat of the battle, well, then you just do it in your pants, that's why adult diaper is a big thing in PX....
But then for someone, you just knew when you see how they act/react, or how they think, people had been on the frontline think differently, something unique and you can tell almost right away even if we are talking about a very brief interaction, I really can't explain that, call it premonition or whatever, but if you had served, you notice the habit of how people talk and how people react and you know they also had served, it's a cliche but I can only say it's something you need to be in on it to understand, I just can't use word to describe that.
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