Egyptian Armed Forces

[Nile-Tiger]

Noone knows, Pentagon keeps rejecting to equip these f-16s with AMRAAM almost neutring them, they are not that good in air-air combat cause of the absence of the AMRAAMs

But.... When Israel receive all of it's F-35s, it should be acceptable for USA to let us get the AMRAAM, RIGHT ???
I mean, to will help keep the strategic balance in the Middle East, which is what America actually wants, in addition to the most important goal of keeping the superiority of Israel. I mean, they probably won't let the gape between Israel and Egypt's Ari forces increase so much, I think.

But, generally... Why not get another big number of MIG-29M and MIG-35, may be SU-30 and SU-35, in addition also to more Rafale and going back to buying Mirage 2000 (May be the Emirate version)... Getting the JF-17 Block 3 (And may be investing in the program with China and Pakistan... I think we should probably be doing this already).

With a big number of F-16 (Some of them, or a lot of them are older blocks), Rafale, Mirage 2000, MIG-29M/35, SU-30 and SU/35, and may be an affordable fighter jet like the JF-17 or another Chinese jet fighter... we will be doing fine, not as good as we wish, but a very acceptable rate of introducing new jets to our Air Force.

I don't know, though.... Would the high price be our only problem if we wanted to buy, say only 12 or 16, Euro Fighter Typhoon ? Or, will we face another biased decision from the UK, deciding not to sell to us, to keep our Air Force power restricted ???

 

[Hell NO]

 

[Ceylal]

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A Star Trek episode..

 

[Hell NO]

A Star Trek episode..

 

[Gomig-21]

Noone knows, Pentagon keeps rejecting to equip these f-16s with AMRAAM almost neutring them, they are not that good in air-air combat cause of the absence of the AMRAAMs

With the outlook of the economy MashAllah, and the future prospects of all the investments in the Sinai and especially what they're talking about doing in the Red Sea (which I have a bit of a problem with but I hope they get the best minds to be sure that body of water and the incredible ecosystem that exists there is super-well protected) that they seriously take on the US for much more military cooperation. And if that fails, which it most likely will considering the US has other very attractive prospects for military contracts in the region, that Egypt starts a program similar to what China did, going back to the 50's. Start reverse engineering some of the needed components such as GPS guided munitions and especially A2A missiles. They have enough stock to easily do that and be shameless about R&D just like the Chinese did. If the refitting of other types of missiles to the F-16s are violations of any contractual agreements with the US, so be it. They can try them on the Rafales but especially the MiGs. Start shifting the integration of some experimental missiles on those platforms and work in that side of the coin.

If the Meteor is sold to the EAF then the Rafale won't need to be touched. But if not, there are many other options that they need to be very aggressive about while pushing the political pressure as much as possible without crossing that fine line. I really think it's doable among many other things.

Imagine (provided the security is granted) if they retrofitted the R-77 (or a domestic version) to be fired from an F-16? Wouldn't that be something? They managed to retrofit the AIM-9M to be fired off the old geezer MiG-21 back in 1980, so what's stopping them?

 

[Gomig-21]

@Hamilcar , remember when we were talking about that Tunisian SOFs modified M4 (or it also could have been a HK416 since they're rather similar and more likely since the handguard actually looked more like that of an HK416 than an M4 in that pic you posted) and here you have a similar pistol grip as that Tunisian SF mod with the finger notches as well as the stock modification on an Egyptian Maadi Misr/AK47. Also a lower forward grip which you don't usually see on these older style AKs.

 

[Hamilcar]

@Hamilcar , remember when we were talking about that Tunisian SOFs modified M4 (or it also could have been a HK416 since they're rather similar and more likely since the handguard actually looked more like that of an HK416 than an M4 in that pic you posted) and here you have a similar pistol grip as that Tunisian SF mod with the finger notches as well as the stock modification on an Egyptian Maadi Misr/AK47. Also a lower forward grip which you don't usually see on these older style AKs.

a rather very interesting modification I must say.
the Maadi would probably have less recoil and more accuracy, are all of them Saaka soldiers though? only one is showing their emblem
which reminds me

from a visit to the GFS headquarters
I really love the design

 

[Gomig-21]

a rather very interesting modification I must say.
the Maadi would probably have less recoil and more accuracy,

Maadi Misrs are highly sought after here in the US because of their quality and they were actually considered one of the better-made copies out there. And as a result of the import ban in 1986, there weren't that many that made it into the country so they're extremely rare to find here for us collectors. They've been making them since 1950 in “Factory 54,” the Maadi Company for Engineering Industries in Cairo Now they're like gold if you can find someone who will sell you theirs. Who knows how many Egypt has pumped out in almost 70 years lol but every once in a while we'll see some interesting retrofits like this one.

are all of them Saaka soldiers though? only one is showing their emblem

That camo uniform is usually the giveaway. Only Saaka wear that sand camo with those dark blotches.

which reminds me

from a visit to the GFS headquarters
I really love the design

That's great that you we were there. That eagle emblem is probably more common in our countries than we know.

EAF F-16D blck 52.

 

[The SC]

With the outlook of the economy MashAllah, and the future prospects of all the investments in the Sinai and especially what they're talking about doing in the Red Sea (which I have a bit of a problem with but I hope they get the best minds to be sure that body of water and the incredible ecosystem that exists there is super-well protected) that they seriously take on the US for much more military cooperation. And if that fails, which it most likely will considering the US has other very attractive prospects for military contracts in the region, that Egypt starts a program similar to what China did, going back to the 50's. Start reverse engineering some of the needed components such as GPS guided munitions and especially A2A missiles. They have enough stock to easily do that and be shameless about R&D just like the Chinese did. If the refitting of other types of missiles to the F-16s are violations of any contractual agreements with the US, so be it. They can try them on the Rafales but especially the MiGs. Start shifting the integration of some experimental missiles on those platforms and work in that side of the coin.

If the Meteor is sold to the EAF then the Rafale won't need to be touched. But if not, there are many other options that they need to be very aggressive about while pushing the political pressure as much as possible without crossing that fine line. I really think it's doable among many other things.

Imagine (provided the security is granted) if they retrofitted the R-77 (or a domestic version) to be fired from an F-16? Wouldn't that be something? They managed to retrofit the AIM-9M to be fired off the old geezer MiG-21 back in 1980, so what's stopping them?

I have heard before that Russia has some electronic system to integrate its missiles on western aircrafts.. It exists.. I have seen it..I just forgot the name...maybe Egypt can make its own or at least buy this one..

 

[Gomig-21]

I have heard before that Russia has some electronic system to integrate its missiles on western aircrafts.. It exists.. I have seen it..I just forgot the name...maybe Egypt can make its own or at least buy this one..

Imagine the violation that would ensue should American weapons inspectors show up and find an F-16C pulling out of one of those fancy new hangars and then taxiing off one of the ramps at Cairo West AP with a pair of R-77s hanging off the wing pylons and R-73s on the wingtips?

 

[The SC]

Imagine the violation that would ensue should American weapons inspectors show up and find an F-16C pulling out of one of those fancy new hangars and then taxiing off one of the ramps at Cairo West AP with a pair of R-77s hanging off the wing pylons and R-73s on the wingtips?

They will hasten the AMRAAM delivery.. and Trump will fire anyone who said no before..

 

[SipahSalar]

ut.... When Israel receive all of it's F-35s, it should be acceptable for USA to let us get the AMRAAM, RIGHT ???

Would have made sense if EAF had 30-50 F-16's. But with 200+ F-16's, there's no way they would release the AMRAAMs. It would increase the capability of EAF threefold overnight.

 

[The SC]

Would have made sense if EAF had 30-50 F-16's. But with 200+ F-16's, there's no way they would release the AMRAAMs. It would increase the capability of EAF threefold overnight.

Not a very brilliant comment.. they can release just enough for 50..

 

[SipahSalar]

Not a very brilliant comment.. they can release just enough for 50..

Not a brilliant reply either. That could be anywhere from 300-500 missiles. What's stopping EAF from putting those on the other F-16's? They will run out of them quicker but at the start of any war they'd have huge firepower.

 

[The SC]

Not a brilliant reply either. That could be anywhere from 300-500 missiles. What's stopping EAF from putting those on the other F-16's? They will run out of them quicker but at the start of any war they'd have huge firepower.

Don't try to justify your nonsense comment..you said yourself that the US can arm up to 50 Egyptian F-16s with the AMRAAM..What are you trying to justify now.. that you comment was intelligent or made any sense..

"That could be anywhere from 300-500 missiles"
Why didn't you tell this to yourself before making any irrelevant comment..?