Egyptian Armed Forces

[Kamil_baku]

Is it gonna limit our capabilities or sovereignty or our ability to retaliate against isreal in a case of war, is it gonna harm our ability to respond or like regarding the Americans are they gonna know when we are going to conduct any operations?

There is source code, also friend and foe system. Without them Egyptian f16 cannot even shoot Israeli jets as it see them friendly..

 

[Harpcore_lover]

So

That won't be the case.. The communication cooperation can have its own channels and shared data links.. and those can be shut or set on different frequencies in case of an imminent threat.. and this concerns only the US made weapons..There are other agreements that infringe on sovereignty but Egypt did not sign them..
The main ones are:

- CISMOA
- BECA
- LSA


LSA refers to Logistics Support Agreement. This agreement would enable mutual exchange of logistics support, supplies and services (LSSS) between the defense forces of both countries


BECA refers to Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement for Geo-spatial Cooperation. This agreement would facilitate exchange of geospatial information between India and United States for both military and civilian use. Advantages for India United States calls these agreements as “foundational” in terms of cooperation of defense or sensitive technologies. US argues that these would enable technology transfer, logistics and seamless communication between military systems of the two countries

So it doesn't harm our sovereignty in any way?

 

[Zarvan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/977179524956901376

 

[Gomig-21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/977179524956901376

This was from Sisi's visit to Malez military air base in Sinai.

Here's a fun question for whomever can answer...what are the pilots with the white helmets?

 

[Harpcore_lover]

This was from Sisi's visit to Malez military air base in Sinai.

Here's a fun question for whomever can answer...what are the pilots with the white helmets?

Mig pilots?

 

[Gomig-21]

Mig pilots?

I would think so too, especially the couple that have their oxygen masks hanging while others don't. And there are a couple fells with the dark visors on the outside of the helmets vs the other ones where the visors are encased in their slots. Is it possible that those two are F-7 pilots? Are they still flying them too? Ka-52s?

 

[ptldM3]

This was from Sisi's visit to Malez military air base in Sinai.

Here's a fun question for whomever can answer...what are the pilots with the white helmets?

Some of those white helmets are typical helicopter pilot helmets...others are older US helmets for fixed wing aircraft.

 

[Gomig-21]

Some of those white helmets are typical helicopter pilot helmets...others are older US helmets for fixed wing aircraft.

I did notice one of them has the microphone attached which is most definitely a helicopter helmet. There have been reports that they've been using the Ka-52s for this operation in Sinai, so that could very well be them.

And to your point about older helmets for fixed wing air craft is the reason I mentioned the F-7, or even the MiG-21 pilots wear them.

Some of those white helmets are typical helicopter pilot helmets...others are older US helmets for fixed wing aircraft.

Someone suggested these fellas that operate the systems in the E-2C Hawkeye, which actually makes the most sense TBH.

 

[Harpcore_lover]

I would think so too, especially the couple that have their oxygen masks hanging while others don't. And there are a couple fells with the dark visors on the outside of the helmets vs the other ones where the visors are encased in their slots. Is it possible that those two are F-7 pilots? Are they still flying them too? Ka-52s?

Btw about CISMOA, you don't think it's a breach to our security or that it doesn't infringe our sovereignty or that it weakens our position regarding any future conflict with isreal?

I did notice one of them has the microphone attached which is most definitely a helicopter helmet. There have been reports that they've been using the Ka-52s for this operation in Sinai, so that could very well be them.

And to your point about older helmets for fixed wing air craft is the reason I mentioned the F-7, or even the MiG-21 pilots wear them.



Someone suggested these fellas that operate the systems in the E-2C Hawkeye, which actually makes the most sense TBH.

Btw you don't think CISMOA is gonna hit our sovereignty or military capabilities?

 

[Gomig-21]

Btw you don't think CISMOA is gonna hit our sovereignty or military capabilities?

I will gladly give you my opinion a bit later, if you don't mind. I think it's a great discussion because there are quite a bit of misconceptions regarding the security factors of the deal.

It's nice to see one of the few F-16s that doesn't have orange swaths painted on it, which hopefully will be one of the things that will be rid of as a result of signing the memorandum.

 

[Crocodile]

Btw you don't think CISMOA is gonna hit our sovereignty or military capabilities?

I'm not very familiar with the topic but I believe the reason it was not signed under Mubarak was that It would have made our F-16s identify Israeli F-16s as "Friendlies". Not sure if that reason still matters today with new threats emerging around us and ties with Israel getting much warmer than before.

 

[Kamil_baku]

I'm not very familiar with the topic but I believe the reason it was not signed under Mubarak was that It would have made our F-16s identify Israeli F-16s as "Friendlies". Not sure if that reason still matters today with new threats emerging around us and ties with Israel getting much warmer than before.

You are controlling a country, you have to be ready for any kind of situation..

 

[Harpcore_lover]

I'm not very familiar with the topic but I believe the reason it was not signed under Mubarak was that It would have made our F-16s identify Israeli F-16s as "Friendlies". Not sure if that reason still matters today with new threats emerging around us and ties with Israel getting much warmer than before.

I will gladly give you my opinion a bit later, if you don't mind. I think it's a great discussion because there are quite a bit of misconceptions regarding the security factors of the deal.

It's nice to see one of the few F-16s that doesn't have orange swaths painted on it, which hopefully will be one of the things that will be rid of as a result of signing the memorandum.

Please don't forget about that, I need that response

 

[The SC]

I'm not very familiar with the topic but I believe the reason it was not signed under Mubarak was that It would have made our F-16s identify Israeli F-16s as "Friendlies". Not sure if that reason still matters today with new threats emerging around us and ties with Israel getting much warmer than before.

Actually Egypt has its own IFF system..that was not the issue..

 

[Harpcore_lover]

Actually Egypt has its own IFF system..that was not the issue..

what's the effect of signing the CISMOA on the army?