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Hydration said:
I think we will look for more french SCALPS
No brimstones that thing is filled from head to toe with American components and might as well be American
IRIS-T is a nessacity
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It's going to be very interesting to see how they'll deal with this weapons dilemma. If they can interchange the Storm Shadows with SCALPs, then they could also interchange the Brimstones with French AASM HAMMERS since the aircraft would definitely need PGMs of those types.

Which also brings in the aircraft's compatibility with all GBU Paveway series of munitions. Will the US allow the EAF to use its stock of GBU 10, 12 and I think 15s also on these Typhoons? It's a phenomenal aircraft and several listings claim it to be a small step superior to the Rafale, even the Captor-E AESA is said to be a bit better than the RBE2 AESA in the Rafale, but I don't believe the EFT's Praetorian Ex-Euro-DASS EW suite is as good or as effective as the Rafale's SPECTRA. It still has a phenomenal sensor fusion suite (so does the Rafale) and JMCHS which I would love to see EAF pilots getting and using. I've always maintained that having the EFTs supplement the Rafales in the EAF is an excellent air force model.

The people who mention logistical nightmares because of the variety of platforms seem to be missing the fact that each fighter has its own dedicated pilots and trained crews. It's not like the ones operating & working on the MiG-29M/M2s will also be working the Typhoons!? lol. Yes spare parts and different weapons might be a bit challenging, but they seem to think the reward is well worth the bit of complications.
 
Gomig-21 said:
It's going to be very interesting to see how they'll deal with this weapons dilemma. If they can interchange the Storm Shadows with SCALPs, then they could also interchange the Brimstones with French AASM HAMMERS since the aircraft would definitely need PGMs of those types.

Which also brings in the aircraft's compatibility with all GBU Paveway series of munitions. Will the US allow the EAF to use its stock of GBU 10, 12 and I think 15s also on these Typhoons? It's a phenomenal aircraft and several listings claim it to be a small step superior to the Rafale, even the Captor-E AESA is said to be a bit better than the RBE2 AESA in the Rafale, but I don't believe the EFT's Praetorian Ex-Euro-DASS EW suite is as good or as effective as the Rafale's SPECTRA. It still has a phenomenal sensor fusion suite (so does the Rafale) and JMCHS which I would love to see EAF pilots getting and using. I've always maintained that having the EFTs supplement the Rafales in the EAF is an excellent air force model.

The people who mention logistical nightmares because of the variety of platforms seem to be missing the fact that each fighter has its own dedicated pilots and trained crews. It's not like the ones operating & working on the MiG-29M/M2s will also be working the Typhoons!? lol. Yes spare parts and different weapons might be a bit challenging, but they seem to think the reward is well worth the bit of complications.
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For me, it is important to us to mount some indigenous or JV products like Al Tariq PGM so we can more weapons to our arsenal. It must be a clause in this deal or even the Rafale's deal. I am sure with EDEX2023 which will be specialized on smart munition so maybe we will se some indigenous products.
 
Ghostkiller said:
For me, it is important to us to mount some indigenous or JV products like Al Tariq PGM so we can more weapons to our arsenal. It must be a clause in this deal or even the Rafale's deal. I am sure with EDEX2023 which will be specialized on smart munition so maybe we will se some indigenous products.
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That's right, I forgot about the Al Tariq and that whole set of weapons from Denel/UAE.

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If the EAF was able to mount them not only on the Mirage 2Ks, but also the F-16 blck 52s, that means they didn't have any restrictions from the US to integrate such new weapons on them and possibly helped by either participating in the integration, or simply having given the EAF the necessary source codes to process the integration. Unless they simply used the separate, wireless computer pad to launch them instead of using the aircraft's avionics and weapons systems, like @Philip the Arab suggested could've been a possibility.

If we think about it, that is an incredibly flexible system to mount those weapons on any aircraft. It would be very easy for the EAF to use them on all its aircraft, including Russian models.

Regardless, it still shows terms of usage on US aircraft might not be so strict on the F-16s as the rumors were of the F-15 offer. That only means that it's quite possible for the EAF to also integrate a medium/long range A2A missiles on the F-16s from either Denel, HAL in the ASTRA or an indigenous sample like you suggested. It would really be superb if they were able to not only get the meteor, but also use them on the F-16s.

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Between these and the fancy shmancy Sparrow missile we saw and that yellow cruise missile snippet in the video you posted a little while back, it's evident that the Egyptian military has quite a few things they're working on that we have no idea about that they haven't showcased at all.
 
Gomig-21 said:
That's right, I forgot about the Al Tariq and that whole set of weapons from Denel/UAE.

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If the EAF was able to mount them not only on the Mirage 2Ks, but also the F-16 blck 52s, that means they didn't have any restrictions from the US to integrate such new weapons on them and possibly helped by either participating in the integration, or simply having given the EAF the necessary source codes to process the integration. Unless they simply used the separate, wireless computer pad to launch them instead of using the aircraft's avionics and weapons systems, like @Philip the Arab suggested could've been a possibility.

If we think about it, that is an incredibly flexible system to mount those weapons on any aircraft. It would be very easy for the EAF to use them on all its aircraft, including Russian models.

Regardless, it still shows terms of usage on US aircraft might not be so strict on the F-16s as the rumors were of the F-15 offer. That only means that it's quite possible for the EAF to also integrate a medium/long range A2A missiles on the F-16s from either Denel, HAL in the ASTRA or an indigenous sample like you suggested. It would really be superb if they were able to not only get the meteor, but also use them on the F-16s.

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Between these and the fancy shmancy Sparrow missile we saw and that yellow cruise missile snippet in the video you posted a little while back, it's evident that the Egyptian military has quite a few things they're working on that we have no idea about that they haven't showcased at all.
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It was a Sparrow missile that changed the fuel cells and the seeker and made it a 100K range, an 80 . kill zone

https://twitter.com/x/status/1549534880328953857
 
Hydration said:
Wont it be rude to change the semi active seeker with a semi active seeker?
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True but we don't know the fucking restriction that US can put on them hahahaha. We need more fucking details about this missile. Did we build the active seeker, we got from the US, from France etc... @joker87 @sami_1 any idea about the seeker and did we build it locally yes or no?
 
Ghostkiller said:
True but we don't know the fucking restriction that US can put on them hahahaha. We need more fucking details about this missile. Did we build the active seeker, we got from the US, from France etc... @joker87 @sami_1 any idea about the seeker and did we build it locally yes or no?
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Its probably either a german seeker or local
Thats all i can give you
 
@The SC , check out the phenomenally smooth finish on this Rafale. Dassault engineering is really amazing. Very neat and not often noticeable air speed & directional sensor fins on both sides of the bottom front fuselage. You don't really notice those very often like in this pic. Double click to get the large HR and see them better.

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The rarer, single seat EAF Rafale. They only ordered 8 of these out of the 24 in the first batch. I'll have to look at the Dassault media release if they gave any information on the number of these EMs and how many 2-seat DMs in the new order of 30. Should be fun when they start receiving them and hopefully by then, they'll be flying formations with the Eurofighters.

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Another single seat EM.

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BTW, if you open this image in a new tab and click it to large, those R-77s on this EAF MiG-29M/M2 sure do appear to have the tapered ends of the export R-77-1 (RVV-SD). Hard to tell 100% but they're close. Plus you really get a good look at all the other attachments like the rear MAWS and FLIR & T-220 pods attachments and some other neat features on this terrific fighter. Really hope they manage somehow to increase the numbers with many more MiG-35s and the upper end A2A missiles. It really would be great to see them work around CAATSA like India appears to have done.

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I'm also very glad they didn't paint the ones they received with that horrible aqua blue bottom color lol.
 
Gomig-21 said:
@The SC , check out the phenomenally smooth finish on this Rafale. Dassault engineering is really amazing. Very neat and not often noticeable air speed & directional sensor fins on both sides of the bottom front fuselage. You don't really notice those very often like in this pic. Double click to get the large HR and see them better.

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The rarer, single seat EAF Rafale. They only ordered 8 of these out of the 24 in the first batch. I'll have to look at the Dassault media release if they gave any information on the number of these EMs and how many 2-seat DMs in the new order of 30. Should be fun when they start receiving them and hopefully by then, they'll be flying formations with the Eurofighters.

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Another single seat EM.

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BTW, if you open this image in a new tab and click it to large, those R-77s on this EAF MiG-29M/M2 sure do appear to have the tapered ends of the export R-77-1 (RVV-SD). Hard to tell 100% but they're close. Plus you really get a good look at all the other attachments like the rear MAWS and FLIR & T-220 pods attachments and some other neat features on this terrific fighter. Really hope they manage somehow to increase the numbers with many more MiG-35s and the upper end A2A missiles. It really would be great to see them work around CAATSA like India appears to have done.

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I'm also very glad they didn't paint the ones they received with that horrible aqua blue bottom color lol.
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How is the performance of russian BVRs in combats? I heard that they isn't that good
 

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