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Egypt protests flare, casualties reported.

Stop being so ridiculous, Iranian tourists visiting Egypt does not mean spreading of Shiasm.

Millions of Iranians visit Turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Dubai, Greece, Russia, etc... I don't see millions of these people turning Shia !


If you use the same logic than all the Western Christians that visit Egypt are also converting Egyptians into Christianity.


Most Iranian tourist that visit Egypt are from Rich Upper and Middle class families, these people don't care about religion.

Aside from that then I guess the Egyptians are in their very own right to worry about what they want to whether you agree or not. I mean your own Mullah's are worrying about Afghan's taking over your country.

Funny iranian mullah shares his concern about the afghan takeover of iran(English subtitles) - YouTube

"An Afghan man can knock down 20 Iranian youngsters"!

You don't say that?

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Most of the Iranians can't even afford a car let alone travel outside the borders, LOL. Like Egypt cares about a few thousand Iranian tourists yearly. It never relied on them and never will. Stop spreading nonsense. The biggest spenders in Egypt are Westerners and fellow Arabs.

Aside from that then the Arab and Muslim world is not really your business. Worry about Iran. You guys have HUGE problems already.

Eh Iranian tourists to Egypt is only recent, so obviously Egypt economy does not rely on that.
iranigirl2 merely made the case that Iranian families/tourists are not there to spread Shiism. But simply do what normal people visiting other counties. Visit historic/cultural sites.

No one here said Egypt relies on Iranian tourism.
 
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Most of the Iranians can't even afford a car let alone travel outside the borders, LOL. Like Egypt cares about a few thousand Iranian tourists yearly. It never relied on them and never will. Stop spreading nonsense. The biggest spenders in Egypt are Westerners and fellow Arabs.

Aside from that then the Arab and Muslim world is not really your business. Worry about Iran. You guys have HUGE problems already.

Iran has the biggest middle class families in the Middle East and many of them love to travel to other countries like Turkey, Armenia,etc..for summer, spring vacation and spend good amount of money.

So far about 200 Iranians have visited Egypt.

The only people that protested were Salafis and the Salafi political party in the Parliament called Al Nour.

As you can see in these pics, none of these people are interested in converting anyone to any religion.
Egypt is special destination for Iranians: Persian tourists - Economy - Business - Ahram Online


And even most Egyptians officials agree that Iranian tourists are good for Economy and the idea of Iranian spreading Shiasm is ridiculous.
Iranians welcome in Egypt: Abul-Fotouh - Politics - Egypt - Ahram Online
 
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Iran has the biggest middle class families in the Middle East and many of them love to travel to other countries like Turkey, Armenia,etc.. and spend good amount of money.

So far over about 200 Iranians have visited Egypt.

The only people that protested were Salafis and the Salafi political party in the Parliament called Al nour.


As you can see in these pics, none of these people are interested in converting anyone to any religion.

Egypt is special destination for Iranians: Persian tourists - Economy - Business - Ahram Online


Iranians welcome in Egypt: Abul-Fotouh - Politics - Egypt - Ahram Online

Define middle class for me? I doubt that even the richest Iranians are close to a middle class family in lets say KSA, UAE, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait etc. in terms of income and travel opportunities.

The point is that you made it sound like Egypt was doomed without the 2000 (LOL come on) tourism that would not come to Egypt.

I am not a Egyptian but if I was I would allow everybody in as long as they were respectful to their host country. That includes Iranians. But I would keep a special look at the Iranians since they have a certain history since 1979 in the Arab world that cannot be ignored.

I am sure that Iran or at least many Iranians also have worries about the few Arab tourists (mostly religious and Arab Shias) that come to Iran DESPITE them being fellow Shias.

Today the climate in the Middle East does not allow another approach as of now.
 
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Define middle class for me? I doubt that even the richest Iranians are close to a middle class family in lets say KSA, UAE, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait etc. in terms of income and travel opportunities.

The point is that you made it sound like Egypt was doomed without the 2000 (LOL come on) tourism that would not come to Egypt.

I am not a Egyptian but if I was I would allow everybody in as long as they were respectful to their host country. That includes Iranians. But I would keep a special look at the Iranians since they have a certain history since 1979 in the Arab world that cannot be ignored.

I am sure that Iran or at least many Iranians also have worries about the few Arab tourists (mostly religious and Arab Shias) that come to Iran DESPITE them being fellow Shias.

Today the climate in the Middle East does not allow another approach as of now.

Iranians love to travel and they spend good money while vacationing, even poor Iranians save their money for summer and spring vacations.

I welcome All Sunni, Sufi, Christian, Atheist, etc.. even Wahhabis to visit Iran. I'm not worried about them converting any one.


Egypt’s Prime Minister Hisham Qandil said on Wednesday that Iranian tourists had spent more money per person in Egypt than European tourists, resulting in a boost to tourism.

Qandil explained that the average spending of an Iranian tourist in Egypt is 120 dollars a day, while a European tourist spends on an average 74.1 dollars a day.


Source:Egyptian PM Qandil positive about Iranian tourism - Egypt - Ahram Online



In 2010, the number of Iranian tourists visiting Turkey increased 36 percent, and 1.8 million Iranians visited Turkey,” Turkish Association of Travel Agents, or TÜRSAB, Chairman Başaran Ulusoy recently told Anatolia news agency, adding that the numbers represented the second-highest increase among incoming tourists.

Source:http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&n=0222101540885-2011-02-22



Although the Germans have been coming for years in large numbers – 4.4 million of them in 2010 –Iranians tend to spend more on accommodation, food and purchases than the average European seeking a budget holiday.Iranians also go to resorts like Antalya, Bodrum and Kuşadasi on the Mediterranean coast. They do not seem to mind the crowds, the nightlife or the wild party atmosphere. But the stereotype of Iranian women coming to Turkey to enjoy the freedom to ditch the hejab and switch to a bikini is not wholly accurate; many remain easily recognizable in the headscarves and long coats they would wear back Tehran.

Iranian tourists are well-liked, not just because they are big spenders but because they are polite and rarely make trouble. They generally travel as families, not as gaggles of friends, and a loud, drunk Iranian would be highly unusual sight.


Source:http://iwpr.net/report-news/irans-tourist-invasion-turkey
 
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:omghaha:

Most of the Iranians can't even afford a car let alone travel outside the borders, LOL. Like Egypt cares about a few thousand Iranian tourists yearly. It never relied on them and never will. Stop spreading nonsense. The biggest spenders in Egypt are Westerners and fellow Arabs.

Aside from that then the Arab and Muslim world is not really your business. Worry about Iran. You guys have HUGE problems already.
hey stupid, she said millions
yep millions can afford
you know how many Iranians we are inside Iran and outside if you consider the population for exemple in USA or Canada ?

if you take only 10% of Iranians who clearly can afford easily trips, (much more than 10% but let'(s say 10%) you have already many millions ;)
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Egypt embassy in Iraq. Says we are not ashamed and we have nothing to hide, we cursed Umar ibn Khattab.
[video]http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=KgTruVjtwQU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKgTruVjtwQU[/video]

Come try that again in Egypt? Not Shia majority Iraq. :lol:
 
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Another but-hurt wahabi coming to cry about Shias. So haven't you asked yourself why we never here complaints about western and Israeli tourists. We never seen any real actions to help the Palestinian other than more effort to stop goods from going to them.

Yet all your fear is Shias. Wherever you go you speak about them. The fear of spreading the Shia faith only shows that your faith is weak. After failing to stop converts to Shia through sermons, Salafists have resorted to violence. Can't you see that this type of action only further keeps people in doubt of their faith? Why are Shia books burnt and kept away, why are Shias not allowed to speak or be heard. The answer is quite obvious. Many people are in shock after knowing the truth


Asides from that, Maliki is the official PM of Iraq and Iraqis support his legitimacy. You guys keep ignoring that 95% of the attacks are against the Shias, its clear who's the real sectarian.


Egypt's economy continues worsen every month. Tourism is decreasing dramatically, extremism, violence and poverty are increasing while the government has no solutions for the problems.

And just a bit if information for blackEagle who said that Iraq was insignificant, Iraq is actually one of the largest emerging markets in the Middle East. Egypt has sent multiple high-ranking official delegations to Iraq for economic reasons. For Iraq, Egypt has nothing to offer, so Egypt gains much more in this relation.

I personally like Egypt and wish it the best. it has been and always will be a significant state in the region. I believe all relations a should be built on mutual interest rather than the growing sectarianism which is being adopted by low life's who know nothing about politics just in fear of the spread of a faith.
 
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Egypt’s opposition claims to have 22 million signatures for Morsi’s resignation ahead of mass protests

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Pressure on embattled Islamist President Mohammed Morsi is building, as opposition claim more people want him to resign, than those who voted him into office. There are fears that huge protest rallies scheduled for Sunday will descend into violence.

Activists for the Tamarod, or Rebellion, campaign – who the Prosecutor General says will be investigated for trying to overthrow the regime - claim they have gathered 22.1 million signatures since April, calling for Morsi to step down after just one year in power. 13.2 million people voted for the President in the closely-contested run-off last year.

The collection is timed to coincide with the one-year anniversary of Morsi inauguration on June 30 – a symbolic date chosen by the opposition, who believe that protests across all the major cities in the country will attract millions, and trigger a repeat election.

Islamist supporters of the President have rejected the signatures, saying the numbers have been vastly inflated, maintaining that the petition has no legal power.

"How do we trust the petitions?" declared Muslim Brotherhood member Ahmed Seif Islam Hassan al-Banna in an interview with AP. "Who guarantees that those who signed were not paid to sign?"

The anti-Morsi coalition comprises a wide range of political forces – from the urban elites who initiated the protests against former president Hosni Mubarak in 2011, to Mubarak’s associates, who have been shifted from power, to minorities concerned about their rights.

"You cannot say that Morsi has failed as a President - he has been able to do very little," Ahmed Badawi from Egyptian think-tank TRANSFORM told RT. "But he has failed as a person who could create a stable framework that could avoid the exact kind of trouble we are seeing now."

On the eve of the protests, a group of as many as 22 anti-Morsi deputies has resigned from the Shura Council, Egypt’s upper parliamentary chamber. The Shura Council has been in charge of legislation in the country after the Muslim-dominated lower house was dismissed in acrimony by the Supreme Court a year ago (new elections have still not been scheduled).

"We gave them a chance to lead a reconciliation but they didn't. The resignation comes to support the popular trend in Egypt," said Mona Makram Ebeid, one of those who resigned.

The opposition accuses Morsi of trying to monopolize political power in the country, by proposing an openly Islamist constitution, stuffing the bureaucracy with his associates, and banning the courts from overruling his decisions.

“The agenda is not about health reform or how to build an Egyptian Harvard or Yale,” said Moataz Abdel Fattah, a political scientist at the American University in Cairo. “It is just a competition over who should preside and set the rules.”

Protesters also say he has mishandled the economy, with electricity and fuel shortages becoming a regular feature of daily life, as the government tries to secure more loans from international financial organizations.

“The executive branch has no clue how to run Egypt. It’s not a question of whether they are Muslim Brothers or liberals — it’s a question of people who have no vision or experience. They do not know how to diagnose the problem and then provide the solution. They are simply not qualified to govern,” wrote Nobel Peace Prize winner and opposition figurehead Mohammed ElBaradei in Foreign Policy magazine.

Morsi, a former engineer who spent a large part of his life in the US, has repeatedly claimed that he has been held back from carrying out key reforms by a mistrustful bureaucracy, which he says is still staffed by Mubarak sympathizers, and by an opposition that has questioned his every move. He has also hinted that “outside forces” are setting him up to fail.

"Morsi can either make concessions or he can increase the level of violence. So far he has offered very few concessions," Said Sadek, a sociologist from the American University in Cairo, told RT.

Tension has already neared boiling point as contesting factions occupy the same streets.

In the past week at least seven people – including an American college student – have died in clashes, with several hundred more injured. Five Muslim Brotherhood offices across the country were set on fire by angry protesters.

In return, Morsi’s more radical Islamist supporters have openly urged the president to initiate a crackdown on dissent, calling protesters “thugs”.

"Vigilance is required to ensure we do not slide into civil war," warned Cairo’s respected Islamic Al-Azhar institute.

Although Cairo has been relatively quiet – with sit-ins on both sides - some neighborhoods have blocked up their doors in anticipation of ransacking not only by political activists, but opportunist marauders. Most flights out of the Egyptian capital have been booked over the weekend as tourists and diplomats flee the country en-masse.

The outcome of the protests may hinge on intervention from the army and security forces.

The army, which stepped in during the Arab Spring two years ago, has promised to prevent “an attack on the will of the people”, and to intervene if one of the antagonists incites violence. Both sides say that they are confident the military will back them if the violence escalates.

The police, which has been notably reluctant to protect Muslim Brotherhood offices, and residences occupied by its official, is not expected to curtail the protests.

Egypt?s opposition claims to have 22 million signatures for Morsi?s resignation ahead of mass protests ? RT News
 
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Egypt is very important country and one of the big pillars of Middle East. Whatever happens there affects the rest of the region.
I really hope all people there stays safe and that Egypt stabilizes soon.
 
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in my opinion Egyptians are making mockery of themselves, protest and unrest and destabilization will ruin their country and cripple their economy which will have a long asting effect
 
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