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It's absolutely true, even sources here close to the border confirmed it. The Egyptian military is denying it right now, but their full of crap. The sources came from them anyway.
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2013 protests in Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@Hussein
Okay, i am a brainwashed and a lair thanks
but do you want me to provide some video footage of these vandalizims or are you not interested in facts?
2.5 millions vandalizisms
man your country is soooooooooooo dangerous ... LOL
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Not 2.5 million vandals just a couple of hundred people that misbehaved and were arrested..
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İt's not that İ agree with Elturco but.
How can the number of 2,5 million be in context with what elturco said?
He said that the current jailed guys from the gezi protestst were the protesters that used violence in their demonstration.
You come with a useless comment of 2,5 million vandalizers. İf there are currently 2,5 million gezi protesters jailed your right.
But if there are no 2,5 million jailed protesters' then you comment is as useless as you.
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Everyone is using the same source, Ashraf Solaem.
He released a statement to the associated press that states the following News from The Associated Press
He then released a contradictory statement to Masrawy http://beta.masrawy.com/News/details/2013/8/9/40695/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B1%D9%8A-%D9%81%D8%AC%D8%B1-%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%AE-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%AD-%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%8A
This source isn't even in the Sinai.
The military has denied any Israeli strikes and has no reason to request any as it has fighter aircraft patrolling which can be used. The Egyptian military doesn't have a history with cooperating with Israel militarily nor will it.
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Wait, is that supposed to be journalism?
There are valid criticisms of the coup and Sisi but none of those were even hinted at.
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Bull, there were 5 different sources and Egypt definitely does and has cooperated with the Israeli military.
The military denied it yet claimed they conducted the strike with their helicopters yet at the same time claim they went to check the scene were the explosions took place. It's closer to the Israeli border in which israel requested or in coordination with israel allowed israel to conduct the strike due to them believing it was an imminent threat to their country.
They have been getting intelligence from israel and israel has been giving intelligence to them for a while and telling them to work in the Sinai.
Quit lying dumbass, everyone knows this by now. You and your comrades in the Egyptian military sound really funny with their denials. They're full of $hit just as you are.
There's truth to many things you say except when it comes down to military action against protesters and in the Sinai with israel.
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well mr Erdogan fan boy
did i say 2.5 millions were arrested
maybe you can use your brain before commenting
a such big protest means something and summarize arrests wiht vandalizers oh yeah go on read your islamist papers
Turkey Protests Rage On: 1,700 Arrested
Turkish police arrest 25 people for using social media to call for protest | World news | The Guardian
you track people from social network to avoid protest, you arrest 1700 people and say "they are vandalizers"
MB sense of democracy. Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, same cheat of Islamists.
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who are you gazawi to insult Egyptian armed forces ? you are just sad you cant steal from Egypt any more
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No, five different news sources published the story but the original source reported to the associated press. It's the same source.
Again, the only source for information is the official spokesman for the military and not FB sites or news sources quoting "military officials". The military said that two explosions had been reported and they were investigating the scene, in the same statement they said they would never allow a strike on Egyptian lands by a foreign nation. If the drone strike happened then that would be the first time that's ever happened.
Intelligence cooperation is well known. but it doesn't go further than that.
I haven't attacked attacked you personally so why would insult me?
If you have solid proof that this strike happened then provide it, if not then your accusations are meaningless.
I have condemned the military's actions against peaceful protesters on the east bank and I don't support clearing the protests.
As for the Sinai then you are entitled to believe what you want but there's nothing to prove what you're saying.
Oh,yeah. There will no longer be discussions between us as you have breached the civility of debating and I no longer respect you. Peace.
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AP source:
Egyptian officials: Israeli drone strike kills 5 Islamic militants in Sinai Peninsula - The Washington Post
Egyptian officials: Israeli drone strike kills 5 Islamic militants in Sinai Peninsula
Ariel Schalit, File/Associated Press - FILE - In this March 7, 2007, file photo, the Israeli army Heron TP drone, also known locally as the Eitan, flies during a display at the Palmahim Air Force Base in Palmahim, Israel. Egyptian security officials said Friday, Aug. 9, 2013, an Israeli drone fired a missile in the northern Sinai peninsula, killing several suspected Islamic militants and destroying a rocket launcher.
By Associated Press,
EL-ARISH, Egypt — An Israeli drone strike killed five suspected Islamic militants and destroyed a rocket launcher in Egypt’s largely lawless Sinai Peninsula on Friday, two senior Egyptian security officials said, describing a rare Israeli operation carried out in its Arab neighbor’s territory.
The attack came a day after Israel briefly closed its airport in the Red Sea resort of Eilat, close to the Sinai, in response to unspecified security warnings. Eilat was previously targeted by rocket fire from the Sinai.
Israel maintained official silence about the strike, suggesting that if the Jewish state was involved, it might be trying to avoid embarrassing the Egyptian military. An Egyptian military spokesman later denied the report but did not provide another cause for the explosion.
Egypt’s official MENA news agency said an explosion destroyed a rocket launcher set up near the border to launch attacks against Israel, and at least five Islamic militants were killed. But it did not elaborate.
Bodies of the slain militants were charred from the blast, an Egyptian official said. He said four of the dead appeared to belong to a family called el-Menaie whose members are wanted for several terrorism-related charges.
“Next to the bodies, there were rockets and a motorcycle that turned into pieces,” the official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity as he wasn’t authorized to speak to journalists.
A tribal leader in the area said that an Egyptian helicopter flew over the site a few minutes after the drone strike. The Egyptian security officials told The Associated Press that the drone had been flying near the site of the attack since early Friday on the Israeli side of the border and fired from there. Those on the Egyptian side of the border could hear the drone buzzing overhead for hours, they said.
The site of the strike sits some five kilometers (three miles) from the Israeli border.
An Israeli drone attack in the Sinai could signal a significant new level of security cooperation between the two former foes following a military coup that ousted Egypt’s president, Mohammed Morsi, last month. The military has alleged that Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood movement had turned a blind eye to Islamic militants in the Sinai.
Meanwhile, Morsi’s ouster, which came after mass protests demanding he step down, has triggered a rise in attacks against security forces on the peninsula, raising fears that extremists could exploit Islamist anger to spread their insurgency.
The Egyptian security officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information, said the Israeli attack was launched in cooperation with Egyptian authorities despite past insistence that the government would not allow anyone to use its territories to launch attacks against ****** groups.
Israel has increased surveillance along the Egyptian border over the past two years, and is building a barrier along the 230-kilometer (150-mile) frontier to keep out militants and African migrants.
The Israeli military said only that it was looking into the report after being contacted by the AP.
Egyptian military spokesman Col. Ahmed Mohammed Ali initially said on his official Facebook page that security forces were investigating two explosions in el-Agra. He later issued a statement denying “in form and substance any attacks from the Israeli side inside Egyptian territories” and saying the claim of cooperation was “baseless.”
Egypt’s military and security forces have long been engaged in a battle against Islamic militants in the northern half of the peninsula. Militants and tribesmen also have been engaged in smuggling and other criminal activity in the area for years.
Under Morsi, Egypt’s military tried to launch a major military operation in the Sinai after suspected Islamic militants carried out a surprise ambush of Egyptian troops on the border with Israel and Gaza on last year, killing 16 soldiers. The militants drove into Israel in an apparent attempt to launch an attack there, though they were killed by Israeli airstrikes.
After the ambush, thousands of Egyptian troops backed by tanks and heavy equipment deployed to northern Sinai near the Israeli border. But not long, Egypt started to withdraw its forces — which were barred under its peace treaty with Israel. No reason was given at the time, though after Morsi’s ouster, several military officials said Morsi wanted to use former jihadis to negotiate for peace with those in Sinai.
Amid the political turmoil facing the nation in the more than two years since longtime autocratic leader Hosni Mubarak was ousted, Egypt has adhered to a 1979 peace deal with Israel.
But militants have fired rockets toward Eilat, a major destination for domestic and international tourists on Israel’s southern tip.
Israel briefly closed its airport there on Thursday, citing unspecified security concerns. An Egyptian security official told the AP that officials warned Israel about the possibility of rocket strikes. The official said Egyptian authorities received intelligence suggesting terrorist groups planned to fire missiles Friday at Israel, as well as at locations in northern Sinai and the Suez Canal.
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Associated Press writer Mamdouh Thabit in Assuit, Egypt, contributed to this report.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Egyptian officials: Israeli drone strike kills 5 Islamic militants in Sinai Peninsula - The Washington Post
Egyptian officials: Israeli drone strike kills 5 Islamic militants in Sinai Peninsula
Ariel Schalit, File/Associated Press - FILE - In this March 7, 2007, file photo, the Israeli army Heron TP drone, also known locally as the Eitan, flies during a display at the Palmahim Air Force Base in Palmahim, Israel. Egyptian security officials said Friday, Aug. 9, 2013, an Israeli drone fired a missile in the northern Sinai peninsula, killing several suspected Islamic militants and destroying a rocket launcher.
By Associated Press,
EL-ARISH, Egypt — An Israeli drone strike killed five suspected Islamic militants and destroyed a rocket launcher in Egypt’s largely lawless Sinai Peninsula on Friday, two senior Egyptian security officials said, describing a rare Israeli operation carried out in its Arab neighbor’s territory.
The attack came a day after Israel briefly closed its airport in the Red Sea resort of Eilat, close to the Sinai, in response to unspecified security warnings. Eilat was previously targeted by rocket fire from the Sinai.
Israel maintained official silence about the strike, suggesting that if the Jewish state was involved, it might be trying to avoid embarrassing the Egyptian military. An Egyptian military spokesman later denied the report but did not provide another cause for the explosion.
Egypt’s official MENA news agency said an explosion destroyed a rocket launcher set up near the border to launch attacks against Israel, and at least five Islamic militants were killed. But it did not elaborate.
Bodies of the slain militants were charred from the blast, an Egyptian official said. He said four of the dead appeared to belong to a family called el-Menaie whose members are wanted for several terrorism-related charges.
“Next to the bodies, there were rockets and a motorcycle that turned into pieces,” the official said. He spoke on condition of anonymity as he wasn’t authorized to speak to journalists.
A tribal leader in the area said that an Egyptian helicopter flew over the site a few minutes after the drone strike. The Egyptian security officials told The Associated Press that the drone had been flying near the site of the attack since early Friday on the Israeli side of the border and fired from there. Those on the Egyptian side of the border could hear the drone buzzing overhead for hours, they said.
The site of the strike sits some five kilometers (three miles) from the Israeli border.
An Israeli drone attack in the Sinai could signal a significant new level of security cooperation between the two former foes following a military coup that ousted Egypt’s president, Mohammed Morsi, last month. The military has alleged that Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood movement had turned a blind eye to Islamic militants in the Sinai.
Meanwhile, Morsi’s ouster, which came after mass protests demanding he step down, has triggered a rise in attacks against security forces on the peninsula, raising fears that extremists could exploit Islamist anger to spread their insurgency.
The Egyptian security officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information, said the Israeli attack was launched in cooperation with Egyptian authorities despite past insistence that the government would not allow anyone to use its territories to launch attacks against ****** groups.
Israel has increased surveillance along the Egyptian border over the past two years, and is building a barrier along the 230-kilometer (150-mile) frontier to keep out militants and African migrants.
The Israeli military said only that it was looking into the report after being contacted by the AP.
Egyptian military spokesman Col. Ahmed Mohammed Ali initially said on his official Facebook page that security forces were investigating two explosions in el-Agra. He later issued a statement denying “in form and substance any attacks from the Israeli side inside Egyptian territories” and saying the claim of cooperation was “baseless.”
Egypt’s military and security forces have long been engaged in a battle against Islamic militants in the northern half of the peninsula. Militants and tribesmen also have been engaged in smuggling and other criminal activity in the area for years.
Under Morsi, Egypt’s military tried to launch a major military operation in the Sinai after suspected Islamic militants carried out a surprise ambush of Egyptian troops on the border with Israel and Gaza on last year, killing 16 soldiers. The militants drove into Israel in an apparent attempt to launch an attack there, though they were killed by Israeli airstrikes.
After the ambush, thousands of Egyptian troops backed by tanks and heavy equipment deployed to northern Sinai near the Israeli border. But not long, Egypt started to withdraw its forces — which were barred under its peace treaty with Israel. No reason was given at the time, though after Morsi’s ouster, several military officials said Morsi wanted to use former jihadis to negotiate for peace with those in Sinai.
Amid the political turmoil facing the nation in the more than two years since longtime autocratic leader Hosni Mubarak was ousted, Egypt has adhered to a 1979 peace deal with Israel.
But militants have fired rockets toward Eilat, a major destination for domestic and international tourists on Israel’s southern tip.
Israel briefly closed its airport there on Thursday, citing unspecified security concerns. An Egyptian security official told the AP that officials warned Israel about the possibility of rocket strikes. The official said Egyptian authorities received intelligence suggesting terrorist groups planned to fire missiles Friday at Israel, as well as at locations in northern Sinai and the Suez Canal.
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Associated Press writer Mamdouh Thabit in Assuit, Egypt, contributed to this report.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Egypt Confirms, Then Denies Israeli Drone Strike in Sinai -- News from Antiwar.com
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Apparently realizing just how bad the drone strike makes the junta look after insisting from the start that they would never allow foreign offensives on Egyptian soil, the nation’s army spokesman followed up on the confirmation with a statement backtracking on the entire situation, insisting that there was not only no coordination, but no strike at all, and only making reference to “explosions” in the Rafah region.
Israel’s military has refused comment on the matter, fueling speculation that their silence is an attempt to let Egypt get their story straight before going on record about what happened.
Egypt walks the wire in denying Israeli strike on Sinai | The Times of Israel
Egypt walks the wire in denying Israeli strike on Sinai
Developments on Israel’s southern border may be encouraging, insofar as the Egyptians appear willing to target jihadists
By AVI ISSACHAROFF August 10, 2013, 12:04 am
Egyptian army soldiers patrol in an armored vehicle, backed by a helicopter gunship, during a sweep through villages in the northern Sinai, Egypt, in May (photo credit: AP)
Contradicting earlier reports, the Egyptian army spokesman said late Friday that there was no truth to reports of an Israeli drone attack on Egyptian soil. He also claimed there was no coordination at all between Israeli and Egyptian authorities with regard to what he termed “explosions in the Rafah region.”
The circumstances surrounding the strike that occurred early Friday evening near Rafah in the northern Sinai Peninsula, in which (it appears) that five Islamic terrorists were killed, were not immediately clear. Particularly elusive were the facts regarding who perpetrated the strike. Initial reports published by the Palestinian Ma’an news agency and then later by AP cited Egyptian officials in El-Arish who said that an Israeli drone fired missiles at a storage site for long-range missiles. They said the strike took place near the Kerem Hashalom crossing, and in the triangle between the Israeli, Egyptian and Gazan border.
According to those reports, the five individuals killed belonged to one of the jihadist groups operating in the peninsula. Groups that concurrently target the Egyptian military and Israel.
Senior Israeli officials refused to confirm or deny any connection between the IDF and the strike. They only spoke in general terms about the continuing Egyptian campaign in the Sinai against al-Qaeda-linked terrorist organizations.
If there was an Israeli strike on Egyptian territory, it would signal the first time that Israel has operated (openly) there since the signing of the peace treaty between the two countries in 1979. However, in the hours following the purported strike, there was a concerted Egyptian effort to restore calm. Egyptian sources told AP that the strike was conducted in coordination between Tel Aviv and Cairo.
A senior Egyptian official who spoke to The Times of Israel insisted it wasn’t Israel that struck the Global Jihad cell. According to him, Egyptian military helicopters were responsible for the strike, as part of Egypt’s effort to prevent terrorists from firing at Israel.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the incident was related to Egyptian warnings conveyed Thursday to Israel that led to the temporary closure of the Eilat airport. According to him, the strike was successful in neutralizing the very same cell that sought to attack Israel.
And then, just before 10 p.m. local time, came Egypt’s official denial of any Israeli strike on the Sinai.
The Egyptian reassurances can be attributed also to a desire to restore calm in Cairo. Precisely as reports began leaking out about an alleged Israeli attack, tens of thousands of supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood were protesting across Egypt against the new government, and against the military’s involvement in politics.
It can be assumed that reports of an Israeli strike on sovereign Egyptian territory would not be useful to the military. On the Israeli side, it is evident that officials in recent days have sought to keep a low profile regarding security coordination between the two countries.
Either way, an examination of the events in the Sinai and in other arenas leads to several conclusions, some of them positive for Israel, others worrying.
Israel finds itself, on its southern and northern borders, facing a growing threat from organizations that have adopted al-Qaeda’s ideology.
The number of Global Jihadists in Syria is growing, and their influence is growing in relation to other opposition groups in the country. The emerging reality for Israel in the north is that the alternative to Syrian President Bashar Assad at this point seems to be worse than the status quo ante.
The relatively positive news comes from the Sinai. There may be a considerable effort among Global Jihadists to attack Israel from the area. However, these terrorists have in recent weeks been targeted for elimination by the Egyptian army.
According to Cairo, the military has been successful in killing some 60 jihadists, of the several hundred that are estimated to be present in the peninsula.
Egypt’s campaign in the Sinai includes 11 infantry battalions along with special forces, a tank battalion, and Egyptian air force and intelligence units.
The difference between the current situation and the days of “the friend,” deposed autocrat Hosni Mubarak, is that the real effort on the part of the Egyptians hasn’t stopped despite other difficult problems that the army is currently tackling.
........
Apparently realizing just how bad the drone strike makes the junta look after insisting from the start that they would never allow foreign offensives on Egyptian soil, the nation’s army spokesman followed up on the confirmation with a statement backtracking on the entire situation, insisting that there was not only no coordination, but no strike at all, and only making reference to “explosions” in the Rafah region.
Israel’s military has refused comment on the matter, fueling speculation that their silence is an attempt to let Egypt get their story straight before going on record about what happened.
Egypt walks the wire in denying Israeli strike on Sinai | The Times of Israel
Egypt walks the wire in denying Israeli strike on Sinai
Developments on Israel’s southern border may be encouraging, insofar as the Egyptians appear willing to target jihadists
By AVI ISSACHAROFF August 10, 2013, 12:04 am
Egyptian army soldiers patrol in an armored vehicle, backed by a helicopter gunship, during a sweep through villages in the northern Sinai, Egypt, in May (photo credit: AP)
Contradicting earlier reports, the Egyptian army spokesman said late Friday that there was no truth to reports of an Israeli drone attack on Egyptian soil. He also claimed there was no coordination at all between Israeli and Egyptian authorities with regard to what he termed “explosions in the Rafah region.”
The circumstances surrounding the strike that occurred early Friday evening near Rafah in the northern Sinai Peninsula, in which (it appears) that five Islamic terrorists were killed, were not immediately clear. Particularly elusive were the facts regarding who perpetrated the strike. Initial reports published by the Palestinian Ma’an news agency and then later by AP cited Egyptian officials in El-Arish who said that an Israeli drone fired missiles at a storage site for long-range missiles. They said the strike took place near the Kerem Hashalom crossing, and in the triangle between the Israeli, Egyptian and Gazan border.
According to those reports, the five individuals killed belonged to one of the jihadist groups operating in the peninsula. Groups that concurrently target the Egyptian military and Israel.
Senior Israeli officials refused to confirm or deny any connection between the IDF and the strike. They only spoke in general terms about the continuing Egyptian campaign in the Sinai against al-Qaeda-linked terrorist organizations.
If there was an Israeli strike on Egyptian territory, it would signal the first time that Israel has operated (openly) there since the signing of the peace treaty between the two countries in 1979. However, in the hours following the purported strike, there was a concerted Egyptian effort to restore calm. Egyptian sources told AP that the strike was conducted in coordination between Tel Aviv and Cairo.
A senior Egyptian official who spoke to The Times of Israel insisted it wasn’t Israel that struck the Global Jihad cell. According to him, Egyptian military helicopters were responsible for the strike, as part of Egypt’s effort to prevent terrorists from firing at Israel.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the incident was related to Egyptian warnings conveyed Thursday to Israel that led to the temporary closure of the Eilat airport. According to him, the strike was successful in neutralizing the very same cell that sought to attack Israel.
And then, just before 10 p.m. local time, came Egypt’s official denial of any Israeli strike on the Sinai.
The Egyptian reassurances can be attributed also to a desire to restore calm in Cairo. Precisely as reports began leaking out about an alleged Israeli attack, tens of thousands of supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood were protesting across Egypt against the new government, and against the military’s involvement in politics.
It can be assumed that reports of an Israeli strike on sovereign Egyptian territory would not be useful to the military. On the Israeli side, it is evident that officials in recent days have sought to keep a low profile regarding security coordination between the two countries.
Either way, an examination of the events in the Sinai and in other arenas leads to several conclusions, some of them positive for Israel, others worrying.
Israel finds itself, on its southern and northern borders, facing a growing threat from organizations that have adopted al-Qaeda’s ideology.
The number of Global Jihadists in Syria is growing, and their influence is growing in relation to other opposition groups in the country. The emerging reality for Israel in the north is that the alternative to Syrian President Bashar Assad at this point seems to be worse than the status quo ante.
The relatively positive news comes from the Sinai. There may be a considerable effort among Global Jihadists to attack Israel from the area. However, these terrorists have in recent weeks been targeted for elimination by the Egyptian army.
According to Cairo, the military has been successful in killing some 60 jihadists, of the several hundred that are estimated to be present in the peninsula.
Egypt’s campaign in the Sinai includes 11 infantry battalions along with special forces, a tank battalion, and Egyptian air force and intelligence units.
The difference between the current situation and the days of “the friend,” deposed autocrat Hosni Mubarak, is that the real effort on the part of the Egyptians hasn’t stopped despite other difficult problems that the army is currently tackling.
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