ECP finds PTI guilty of accepting prohibited funds

[TacOps]

Technically law was broken.

$10 or $100000000 if sent illegally is illegal in the eye of law.

Affidavit or Certificate, if is fake is same thing. Submitting fake documents and careless attitude is usual thing for Pakistani politicians just like calibiri documents.

PTI should face this legally with full bench court and come out of this clean and gain more popularity instead of twisting things.

A) No, $10 or $10,000,000 irregularity is not the same in the eyes of law. There are concepts of materiality and undue effort in law to make things practical.

B) Most of it is not illegal since corporate structures are required to register charities in most countries to make fundraising legal. Again, if some PK law is contradictory, arguably it is in contradiction to PK's own constitution which would allow such a basic right (to raise funds from Pakistanis abroad).

C) Affidavit and certificate are not the same at all. There's a massive difference of the certificate being qualified by 'to the best of knowledge'. To prove some was dishonest in this case, you have to prove that if they didn't have knowledge of such accounts, they were being grossly negligent. The quantum of funds in these accounts would make gross negligence claim incorrect.

 

[AZ1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1554891347177472000

https://twitter.com/x/status/1554713716863680513

 

[ghazi52]

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[Jango]

Bro I got you decision maybe wrong or biased. To come clean PTI should go to courts.

If a SC judges give wrong decision, no matter how much someone denies, it is implemented.

Every institution is getting attacked by all political parties and their supporters if the decision is against any party. What is the solution to get out of this mess. Even if ECP chief resigns and new person comes in. What is the guarantee he will be some honest person? He will be also attacked by losing side. Even SC judges are controversial now.

IK doesn't want to go in elections with current ECP. If everything happens on the wishes of PTI then that is also wrong as we know there are many bad fishes in PTI.

Before going into election, every party should sign some declaration that they will accept result no matter what and they are free to attack on policies and performance of that party/govt.

What does anything you said above have to do with what I said?

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Because SC had already ruled on that matter that it is prohibited funding.
Foreign funding as described by SC - Monies taken from a foreign government entity used to destabilize or influence Government of Pakistan.

It was the agency investigation that was to produce and attach evidence of anti state activity with the prohibited funding file to make it a case of foreign funding. But ecp didn't announce any such thing.
This is a big sign pti will have no problem moving ahead.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Some more "Foreign funding" from Australia

#Imported_Hakumat_Namanzoor

 

[Super Falcon]

We need to get rid of vandeta and vengeance politics first

 

[Finer]

Overseas Pakistanis fund PTI from their own income

Then there shouldn’t be hard to prove that it is overseas Pakistanis not foreign elements that pose threat to Pakistan.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

People are so dumb. Do you think foreign funding happens through legal channels where individuals given small amounts? Ask the master of Indian funding recipients JUI-F and in the last two elections PML-N, how it really happens. It comes through often in the form of cash, gold, diamonds, and other tradable commodities. It is channeled through illegal channels, and criminal elements.

I am certain there is some small amounts that might have come through - which should rightfully be confiscated or returned. But ask ECP how PPP and PML fund their campaigns. And you'll get complete silence. PTI is the only party that provided audited records or where funds come from.

Madness yet again.

 

[The Accountant]

A) No, $10 or $10,000,000 irregularity is not the same in the eyes of law. There are concepts of materiality and undue effort in law to make things practical.

B) Most of it is not illegal since corporate structures are required to register charities in most countries to make fundraising legal. Again, if some PK law is contradictory, arguably it is in contradiction to PK's own constitution which would allow such a basic right (to raise funds from Pakistanis abroad).

C) Affidavit and certificate are not the same at all. There's a massive difference of the certificate being qualified by 'to the best of knowledge'. To prove some was dishonest in this case, you have to prove that if they didn't have knowledge of such accounts, they were being grossly negligent. The quantum of funds in these accounts would make gross negligence claim incorrect.

Brother one more correction, restriction on companies fund collection came in 2017 whereas this case pertains to 2012 accordingly even getting funds from companies is legal in this case

 

[FuturePAF]

People are so dumb. Do you think foreign funding happens through legal channels where individuals given small amounts? Ask the master of Indian funding recipients JUI-F and in the last two elections PML-N, how it really happens. It comes through often in the form of cash, gold, diamonds, and other tradable commodities. It is channeled through illegal channels, and criminal elements.

I am certain there is some small amounts that might have come through - which should rightfully be confiscated or returned. But ask ECP how PPP and PML fund their campaigns. And you'll get complete silence. PTI is the only party that provided audited records or where funds come from.

Madness yet again.

Auditors and investigative journalists should be going through the submissions of all the parties of the “PDM” to negate their new Holy then thou narrative. Republish all the records of all the suspicious means these parties use to get their funding. Publish the finding in the Financial Times as well.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

You can see how corrupted the system is when the one party that opens its accounts to scrutiny and gets everything audited is the one they want to ban. It should show us all the rotten nature of everything in the system within Pakistan.

 

[AZ1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1554899318070546432

 

[HAIDER]

The record shows PTI took good care of his member's money, a record of every single penny.... I admire this.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Habib Akram explains it wonderfully