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MastanKhan

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Hi,

Since pakistan has exploded its nucs---pakistan feels like it has grown an umbrella that can protect it against any aggression--and that maybe far from the truth.

What pakistan's probem has been that every Gilani---Musharraf and Chaudhry has used the term of using the nucs at every opportunity they got if the enemy attacks---. This term has been used without giving any thought to what the consequences maybe----this term has been used without understanding how the enemy and the world is going to take this threat.

Every politician who had a tongue in his mouth has used the use of nucs---every citizen of pakistan that has a mouth and a voice has used this term indiscriminately. S---now that the sound has reverbretted around the world a million times---the world has started to take notice of it.

The first salvo of curtailing the pakistani nucs has been launched by the U S defence secretary just a few days ago. The drama that has been staged is that the U S had asked the indians to be quiet for sometime---act passive and behave in a low key manner---pakistanis---as they are---out of their in grown stupidity will start to brag about this nuc issue and then we will try to nail them---and that is what has happened.

To have nucs is not enough to protect yourself from a country like the U S---again it was out of sheer stupidity of the pak military and its heirarchy for not understanding the consequences----and not teaching and training the [politicians to that regard as well.

They have thought that the nucs have given them a free reign and the threat would stop any incursion or any attempt to steal the nucs----.

What pak militarty generals don't understand is that it has a different effect in the U S----. The U S has mulitplied its force to a higher number to extract all the pakistani nucs in one massive strike---it has recruited more and more operators---has been training harder over the years and diverted many of its milstar staellites to " sniff out the nuc ".

So---basically---if an american says to me that they have the location of all the pak nucs on map by now---I would say that you are right and I agree.

You pakistani kids were living securely in your daddy's mansions---and were looking down at the banyia to nuc them when you wanted---well to you kids---time is getting closer that you would have to give some of them away or they would be snatched away from you.

The bottom line is---uncle sam does not like it when people play tricks on it and pakistanis have been playing many a tricks---even though some maybe paybacks---but still---uncle sam is like a pathan----a pathan who would mother fck everyone---but if someone retorted back---the pathan would want to kill him---uncle sam does not like to be made fun of and don't like to be used.

For that very reason----pakistan should never had pi-ssed off saudi arabia and emirates---at pi-ssed them off at whose expense---iran---a well hated nation by the americans----.

The yemen war should h ave been used to create alliance with the saudis and emiratis---pak should have received the funds for the military and with a more powerful military at hand---that threat would have dissipated----.

But the threat would have dissipated just because pakistan chose to have joined the saudis and emirates----. American public would have seen it a big big positive for the effort that pakistan is putting against the war on terror----and the nuc issue would have fizzled out----.

But no---you clever pakistani kids and your dads---suddenly found a new God---and from where you guys found it---well you find it when you have a few more dollars in your pocket than before---you kids started looking at all the faults in the saudi military and how imcompetent that they were and so much weapons and money that they have and yours is not a mercenary army and this and that and this and that.

With that 20 billion dollars----you would have had a different picture of your military---but then you wanted to join the company of iran---the nation of iran---whomsoever it has puts its hand on---that nation has been a victim of death and destruction----.

Well---my young pakistanis---enjoy your freedom for the time that you have it---. Seems like that you are on that same road where fate has taken Iraq---Libya and Syria----.

The Egyptian military was far more intelligent than yours---they saw the storm clouds coming and kicked out the regime and brought the country back in control.
 
Hi,

Since pakistan has exploded its nucs---pakistan feels like it has grown an umbrella that can protect it against any aggression--and that maybe far from the truth.

What pakistan's probem has been that every Gilani---Musharraf and Chaudhry has used the term of using the nucs at every opportunity they got if the enemy attacks---. This term has been used without giving any thought to what the consequences maybe----this term has been used without understanding how the enemy and the world is going to take this threat.

Every politician who had a tongue in his mouth has used the use of nucs---every citizen of pakistan that has a mouth and a voice has used this term indiscriminately. S---now that the sound has reverbretted around the world a million times---the world has started to take notice of it.

The first salvo of curtailing the pakistani nucs has been launched by the U S defence secretary just a few days ago. The drama that has been staged is that the U S had asked the indians to be quiet for sometime---act passive and behave in a low key manner---pakistanis---as they are---out of their in grown stupidity will start to brag about this nuc issue and then we will try to nail them---and that is what has happened.

To have nucs is not enough to protect yourself from a country like the U S---again it was out of sheer stupidity of the pak military and its heirarchy for not understanding the consequences----and not teaching and training the [politicians to that regard as well.

They have thought that the nucs have given them a free reign and the threat would stop any incursion or any attempt to steal the nucs----.

What pak militarty generals don't understand is that it has a different effect in the U S----. The U S has mulitplied its force to a higher number to extract all the pakistani nucs in one massive strike---it has recruited more and more operators---has been training harder over the years and diverted many of its milstar staellites to " sniff out the nuc ".

So---basically---if an american says to me that they have the location of all the pak nucs on map by now---I would say that you are right and I agree.

You pakistani kids were living securely in your daddy's mansions---and were looking down at the banyia to nuc them when you wanted---well to you kids---time is getting closer that you would have to give some of them away or they would be snatched away from you.

The bottom line is---uncle sam does not like it when people play tricks on it and pakistanis have been playing many a tricks---even though some maybe paybacks---but still---uncle sam is like a pathan----a pathan who would mother fck everyone---but if someone retorted back---the pathan would want to kill him---uncle sam does not like to be made fun of and don't like to be used.

For that very reason----pakistan should never had pi-ssed off saudi arabia and emirates---at pi-ssed them off at whose expense---iran---a well hated nation by the americans----.

The yemen war should h ave been used to create alliance with the saudis and emiratis---pak should have received the funds for the military and with a more powerful military at hand---that threat would have dissipated----.

But the threat would have dissipated just because pakistan chose to have joined the saudis and emirates----. American public would have seen it a big big positive for the effort that pakistan is putting against the war on terror----and the nuc issue would have fizzled out----.

But no---you clever pakistani kids and your dads---suddenly found a new God---and from where you guys found it---well you find it when you have a few more dollars in your pocket than before---you kids started looking at all the faults in the saudi military and how imcompetent that they were and so much weapons and money that they have and yours is not a mercenary army and this and that and this and that.

With that 20 billion dollars----you would have had a different picture of your military---but then you wanted to join the company of iran---the nation of iran---whomsoever it has puts its hand on---that nation has been a victim of death and destruction----.

Well---my young pakistanis---enjoy your freedom for the time that you have it---. Seems like that you are on that same road where fate has taken Iraq---Libya and Syria----.

The Egyptian military was far more intelligent than yours---they saw the storm clouds coming and kicked out the regime and brought the country back in control.
By living in USA for too long you might have gotten the same germs that affected Hussain haqqani.USA is a not GOD if they were they would have done something about IRAN uptill now.They cant attack IRAN let alone Pakistan.
We are young nation and need time to mature, but that dosent mean someone can just come and bomb us with no consequenses.Even if they bomb Pakistan to stone age then we will make sure there will be not a single day in Euope and USA with no response
 
By living in USA for too long you might have gotten the same germs that affected Hussain haqqani.USA is a not GOD if they were they would have done something about IRAN uptill now.They cant attack IRAN let alone Pakistan.
We are young nation and need time to mature, but that dosent mean someone can just come and bomb us with no consequenses.Even if they bomb Pakistan to stone age then we will make sure there will be not a single day in Euope and USA with no response


Hi,
I wrote about this issue a couple of months ago on this board somewhere.

Hussein Haqqani is a traitor and a sell out---and your post is not very intelligent---but full of useless bravado. You have been shown a scenario----this scenario I talked about on this board a few months ago---and suddenly---the U S --- out of nowhere has popped up this question.

Iran does not pose any threat to the U S or its allies----. Iran does not have anythig but rhetoric only---pakistan otoh have around 120 nucs----that it has been bragging about using them at every street corner speech that they make.

What you kids cannot comprehend is that U S uses a proportional response to the problem it wants to tackle----and the pakistani nuc problem---it has had enough time to prepare for it---the milstar satelites that it has placed over pakistan for the last 14 years have tagged the location of all the nucs that pak has---so now it is a matter of when---.
 
@MastanKhan that was a great article but the thing is your beloved nation from its birth is ruled by those who by design created a maze of patriotism mixed with false racial bravado and religion with such huge walls of lies that even if your nation wants to wont be able to look and understand the truth .

Hi,

The thing is that when you are a small nation---living next to a nation 5 times the size and 3 times the military---you have to do things that ordinary nation don't do.

But bragging about using nucs at every street corner meeting was totally brainless and without any substance.

And as I stated that I wrote on this very issue a few months ago on this very forum---and suddenly I read the statement by the U S defense secretary----india keeping a low profile for the last month or two----it is a recipe that is not going to taste good.
 
Hi,
I wrote about this issue a couple of months ago on this board somewhere.

Hussein Haqqani is a traitor and a sell out---and your post is not very intelligent---but full of useless bravado. You have been shown a scenario----this scenario I talked about on this board a few months ago---and suddenly---the U S --- out of nowhere has popped up this question.

Iran does not pose any threat to the U S or its allies----. Iran does not have anythig but rhetoric only---pakistan otoh have around 120 nucs----that it has been bragging about using them at every street corner speech that they make.

What you kids cannot comprehend is that U S uses a proportional response to the problem it wants to tackle----and the pakistani nuc problem---it has had enough time to prepare for it---the milstar satelites that it has placed over pakistan for the last 14 years have tagged the location of all the nucs that pak has---so now it is a matter of when---.
Can the USA do such action without UN mandate?What if some of Pakistan nukes are not even stationed in Pakistan, lets say they are in china.
 
India is continually working on anti nukes attack defence system. Onces it operational in future, Pakistan will be at her place.

Sir,

That is not the purpose of the thread----. If you could curtail on your remarks that are out of sync with the thread---it would be well appreciated.
 
The threat to Pakistan (as perceived) is India (4 wars) but saying that KSA alliance has saved us is far fetched. What exactly is the gurantee that the billions of dollars we might have obtained from KSA or Kuwaitis would have been used to modernize the military?
 
Can the USA do such action without UN mandate?What if some of Pakistan nukes are not even stationed in Pakistan, lets say they are in china.


Hi,

U S is the UN----what difference would it make if they are stored in china----they will be chinese.
 
Hi,

The thing is that when you are a small nation---living next to a nation 5 times the size and 3 times the military---you have to do things that ordinary nation don't do.

But bragging about using nucs at every street corner meeting was totally brainless and without any substance.

And as I stated that I wrote on this very issue a few months ago on this very forum---and suddenly I read the statement by the U S defense secretary----india keeping a low profile for the last month or two----it is a recipe that is not going to taste good.
read my signature and then look at your nations kids and you will know where they are heading very sad but true and there is nothing people like you can do cause they are themselfs so eager to get what you are trying to save them from leave it these kids will never understand .... destiny my able friend destiny
 
Hi,

U S is the UN----what difference would it make if they are stored in china----they will be chinese.
Can you plz eloborate the story after USA attack Pakistan?Will the USA just go back and happliy live ever after.One chineses General has openely told this to USA that Pakistan is our ISRAEL.
 
The threat to Pakistan (as perceived) is India (4 wars) but saying that KSA alliance has saved us is far fetched. What exactly is the gurantee that the billions of dollars we might have obtained from KSA or Kuwaitis would have been used to modernize the military?

Hi,

It would be basic common sense---the military would take charge of fundings----if it was to deploy a 100K troops in the gulf---it would need to replenish them with 150K troops---then the weapons of war would be procured at a much faster pace to fill in for the depleted assets.

The KSA alliance has saved us in the past---this alliance would save our face on the world forum by default---" pakistan military fighting in yemen against terrorists "---just imagine this news in all the world newspapers and on prime time news on the TV---that news in itself would have a life of its own---.

But as you guys cannot solve your petty issues in time---how could you help resolve the world issue in time to benefit you in the short and the long run.

Can you plz eloborate the story after USA attack Pakistan?Will the USA just go back and happliy live ever after.One chineses General has openely told this to USA that Pakistan is our ISRAEL.


Hi,

Indeed that he has---but china needs another 10 years to protect us----. But the issue over here is that why can't we know how to protect ourselves---.

Our problem is a NOW problem----the U S knows about it----china knows about it----. The U S knows that time is running against it---whatever needs to be done---should be done sooner rather than later---.
 
Hi,

Since pakistan has exploded its nucs---pakistan feels like it has grown an umbrella that can protect it against any aggression--and that maybe far from the truth.

What pakistan's probem has been that every Gilani---Musharraf and Chaudhry has used the term of using the nucs at every opportunity they got if the enemy attacks---. This term has been used without giving any thought to what the consequences maybe----this term has been used without understanding how the enemy and the world is going to take this threat.

Every politician who had a tongue in his mouth has used the use of nucs---every citizen of pakistan that has a mouth and a voice has used this term indiscriminately. S---now that the sound has reverbretted around the world a million times---the world has started to take notice of it.

The first salvo of curtailing the pakistani nucs has been launched by the U S defence secretary just a few days ago. The drama that has been staged is that the U S had asked the indians to be quiet for sometime---act passive and behave in a low key manner---pakistanis---as they are---out of their in grown stupidity will start to brag about this nuc issue and then we will try to nail them---and that is what has happened.

To have nucs is not enough to protect yourself from a country like the U S---again it was out of sheer stupidity of the pak military and its heirarchy for not understanding the consequences----and not teaching and training the [politicians to that regard as well.

They have thought that the nucs have given them a free reign and the threat would stop any incursion or any attempt to steal the nucs----.

What pak militarty generals don't understand is that it has a different effect in the U S----. The U S has mulitplied its force to a higher number to extract all the pakistani nucs in one massive strike---it has recruited more and more operators---has been training harder over the years and diverted many of its milstar staellites to " sniff out the nuc ".

So---basically---if an american says to me that they have the location of all the pak nucs on map by now---I would say that you are right and I agree.

You pakistani kids were living securely in your daddy's mansions---and were looking down at the banyia to nuc them when you wanted---well to you kids---time is getting closer that you would have to give some of them away or they would be snatched away from you.

The bottom line is---uncle sam does not like it when people play tricks on it and pakistanis have been playing many a tricks---even though some maybe paybacks---but still---uncle sam is like a pathan----a pathan who would mother fck everyone---but if someone retorted back---the pathan would want to kill him---uncle sam does not like to be made fun of and don't like to be used.

For that very reason----pakistan should never had pi-ssed off saudi arabia and emirates---at pi-ssed them off at whose expense---iran---a well hated nation by the americans----.

The yemen war should h ave been used to create alliance with the saudis and emiratis---pak should have received the funds for the military and with a more powerful military at hand---that threat would have dissipated----.

But the threat would have dissipated just because pakistan chose to have joined the saudis and emirates----. American public would have seen it a big big positive for the effort that pakistan is putting against the war on terror----and the nuc issue would have fizzled out----.

But no---you clever pakistani kids and your dads---suddenly found a new God---and from where you guys found it---well you find it when you have a few more dollars in your pocket than before---you kids started looking at all the faults in the saudi military and how imcompetent that they were and so much weapons and money that they have and yours is not a mercenary army and this and that and this and that.

With that 20 billion dollars----you would have had a different picture of your military---but then you wanted to join the company of iran---the nation of iran---whomsoever it has puts its hand on---that nation has been a victim of death and destruction----.

Well---my young pakistanis---enjoy your freedom for the time that you have it---. Seems like that you are on that same road where fate has taken Iraq---Libya and Syria----.

The Egyptian military was far more intelligent than yours---they saw the storm clouds coming and kicked out the regime and brought the country back in control.

I think its more about a 'Muslim' nuclear power rather than Pakistan which the US could not digest. Had it been Saudi Arabia, UAE or even Turkey, they still would not have accepted it.
 
C'mon Mastan. Lets give your useless and boring banter a rest.

I'm sure U.S military might have a plan to deal with Pakistan and its nukes--just as it might have plans to deal with almost every single nation on Earth.

But to expect that U.S might be attacking Pak to grab our nukes within next ten years is something completely bonkers. U.S has no interest in attacking Pakistan as long as we don't become a rogue state like N.Korea. And we aren't a rogue state of that caliber.
 

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