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[gslv mk3]

show me your neighbor I tell you who you are.

I didn't get you.

 

[MarkusS]

Which particularly was a wrong statement as @what mentioned, as you can see even if it was a genocide it wouldnt be the first one.

Does that change the fact that it was a genocide? Its 100 years now. Our holy father remembers it and shows sympathy for the armenians.

Has the catholic church accepted that it participated in the kilings of jews and gypsies during 2nd WW And paid its dues!

yes it has and openly said so.

 

[Bismarck]

Let me clarify it again. Genocide is a legal term! Only Courts Of Law may are allowed to decide if it was a genozid or not.

 

[Oublious]

I am an East Syriac Christian living in India,and I have some of your neighbors as friends

Go change your flag first and don't talk bs.

 

[MarkusS]

Let me clarify it again. Genocide is a legal term! Only Courts Of Law may are allowed to decide if it was a genozid or not.

French court decided its a genocide. Case closed.

 

[Bismarck]

French court decided its a genocide. Case closed.

This applies to France. But, was that really a Court Of Law? I am not sure about that.

Again, Turkey or Armenia should go to ICJ!

 

[MarkusS]

This applies to France. But, was that really a Court Of Law? I am not sure about that.

Again, Turkey or Armenia should go to ICJ!

Thats laughable. The german empire itself called it a genocide in 1915 and said its useful for its goals. There is nothing to debate. Whats next? You want bring the holocaust into a court to see if it was a genocide? You aren´t european anyways. So why even debate with you

 

[T-123456]

1. i´m italian / german - living in bavaria does not mean that i´m bavarian at all. My father is from Dresden.

2. what has Renzi to do with the issue the holy father brought up?

3. It is the duty of the holy father to adress a crime. Turkey committed a genocide, he openly said it. Stating a fact is just stating a fact. Evryone knows it. It doesn´t change anything.

You dumb idiot,there was no Turkey in 1915,so get your facts right.

 

[Bismarck]

Thats laughable. The german empire itself called it a genocide in 1915 and said its useful for its goals. There is nothing to debate. Whats next? You want bring the holocaust into a court to see if it was a genocide? You aren´t european anyways. So why even debate with you

German empire has the prove that it was a genocide? Have you any source about that? Btw, that German empire called it a genozid is not a prove. And yes, the holocaust was brought on a court (NS-Prozesse, Kriegsverbrecher Prozesse). I think you miss one thing. There must have been a corresponding command.

Who is not European?

 

[xxxKULxxx]

Thats laughable. The german empire itself called it a genocide in 1915 and said its useful for its goals. There is nothing to debate. Whats next? You want bring the holocaust into a court to see if it was a genocide? You aren´t european anyways. So why even debate with you

many times we called for researh of all official records scientifically but armenians and armenians' owners never said ok so with this THEY ALREADY ACCEPTED THERE IS NOTHING LIKE GENOCIDE... Because they already know this is nothing but PURE LIE...

CASE CLOSED !!!...

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I posted it in Turkish and now FM reply in english...

No: 117, 15 April 2015, Press Release Regarding the Resolution by the European Parliament on the 1915 Events / Rep. of Turkey Ministry of Foreign Affairs

No: 117, 15 April 2015, Press Release Regarding the Resolution by the European Parliament on the 1915 Events

The European Parliament known for contriving obstacles to the development of Turkey-EU relations aspired once again to rewrite history regarding the 1915 events, as it has attempted to do so previously.

This aspiration resulted in a preposterous text of resolution dated 15 April 2015 which literally repeats the anti-Turkish clichés of the Armenian propaganda.

With this resolution, the European Parliament repeated exactly a mistake it has made in the past in an incompatible way with international law and exceeding its competence.

We do not take seriously those who adopted this resolution by mutilating history and law. The participation of the EU citizens with a rate of 42% in 2014 elections already implies the place that this Parliament occupies in the political culture of the EU.

We return this text, which is an unprecedented example of incoherence in all its aspects, verbatim to the abovementioned institution so that the text finds its place among the documents that the European Parliament will shy away from remembering in the future.

Those adopting this text may perhaps recall that the EU was established on the pillars of reconciliation and peace culture, and on the basis of the principles such as democracy, human rights and free market economy.

We wish success to the politicians who supported the adoption of the resolution today in the European Parliament, in their entrenched partnership with those who have nothing to do with European values and feeding on hatred, revenge and the culture of conflict.

As a matter of fact, contrary to the values constituting the essential reason for the existence of the European Parliament, this selective and one-sided approach of the European Parliament with regards to the 1915 events has the potential to harm the relations between Turkey and EU and falls far behind from bringing a solution to the issue between Turkey and Armenia.

Naturally, this resolution cannot merely be explained away by either lack of knowledge or ignorance.

Unfortunately, what lays behind is a religious and cultural fanaticism and indifference towards others regarded as different.

If the European Parliament wishes to contribute to building a common future for European peoples, it should realize that this cannot be achieved by excluding different religions and cultures.

As for 1915 events, it is evident that Turkey has assiduously fulfilled its duty with regards to memory.

We hope that Armenia also achieves such a level of maturity as soon as possible.

Members of the European Parliament may better encounter their own past and remember especially their roles and responsibilities in the most abhorrent calamities of humanity such as World War I and World War II, well before dealing with the 1915 issue.

 

[MarkusS]

You dumb idiot,there was no Turkey in 1915,so get your facts right.

turkey is the sucessor of the ottoman empire and because of that is synonymous for it.

many times we called for researh of all official records scientifically but armenians and armenians' owners never said ok so with this THEY ALREADY ACCEPTED THERE IS NOTHING LIKE GENOCIDE... Because they already know this is nothing but PURE LIE...

CASE CLOSED !!!...

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I posted it in Turkish and now FM reply in english...

No: 117, 15 April 2015, Press Release Regarding the Resolution by the European Parliament on the 1915 Events / Rep. of Turkey Ministry of Foreign Affairs

No: 117, 15 April 2015, Press Release Regarding the Resolution by the European Parliament on the 1915 Events

The European Parliament known for contriving obstacles to the development of Turkey-EU relations aspired once again to rewrite history regarding the 1915 events, as it has attempted to do so previously.

This aspiration resulted in a preposterous text of resolution dated 15 April 2015 which literally repeats the anti-Turkish clichés of the Armenian propaganda.

With this resolution, the European Parliament repeated exactly a mistake it has made in the past in an incompatible way with international law and exceeding its competence.

We do not take seriously those who adopted this resolution by mutilating history and law. The participation of the EU citizens with a rate of 42% in 2014 elections already implies the place that this Parliament occupies in the political culture of the EU.

We return this text, which is an unprecedented example of incoherence in all its aspects, verbatim to the abovementioned institution so that the text finds its place among the documents that the European Parliament will shy away from remembering in the future.

Those adopting this text may perhaps recall that the EU was established on the pillars of reconciliation and peace culture, and on the basis of the principles such as democracy, human rights and free market economy.

We wish success to the politicians who supported the adoption of the resolution today in the European Parliament, in their entrenched partnership with those who have nothing to do with European values and feeding on hatred, revenge and the culture of conflict.

As a matter of fact, contrary to the values constituting the essential reason for the existence of the European Parliament, this selective and one-sided approach of the European Parliament with regards to the 1915 events has the potential to harm the relations between Turkey and EU and falls far behind from bringing a solution to the issue between Turkey and Armenia.

Naturally, this resolution cannot merely be explained away by either lack of knowledge or ignorance.

Unfortunately, what lays behind is a religious and cultural fanaticism and indifference towards others regarded as different.

If the European Parliament wishes to contribute to building a common future for European peoples, it should realize that this cannot be achieved by excluding different religions and cultures.

As for 1915 events, it is evident that Turkey has assiduously fulfilled its duty with regards to memory.

We hope that Armenia also achieves such a level of maturity as soon as possible.

Members of the European Parliament may better encounter their own past and remember especially their roles and responsibilities in the most abhorrent calamities of humanity such as World War I and World War II, well before dealing with the 1915 issue.

The EU needs no bla bla from a country where large parts of pobulation can´t write or read. Thanks for your contribution.

 

[Bismarck]

The Permanent People Tribunal call it 1984 a genocide!
http://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanentes_Völkertribunal

 

[T-123456]

turkey is the sucessor of the ottoman empire and because of that is synonymous for it. And you may call your mother dumb idiot but not me.



The EU needs no bla bla from a country where large parts of pobulation can´t write or read. Thanks for your contribution.

@Hakan ,its time to get rid of this troll.

 

[maniac@666]

Genocide my arse. Solomon up to his usual crap.

pope or not,i still admire Turkeye.

 

[MarkusS]

@Hakan ,its time to get rid of this troll.

I already reported you for calling me a dumb idiot. By using such words for a person you don´t know i assume thats common practice at your home and should not bother you in any way. Do you call your mother dumb idiot or not?

If not, you should also not use such words against someone you don´t even know. case closed