Dubai Airshow 2011

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Nabil bro would know more abt it... He said somethin abt egypt buyin the jet... Nabil bhai.. i would like to hear ur word on it!

 

[Tempest II]

The F-16 does a 360 degree turn from 23:05 to about 23:27 = 22 seconds. The JF-17 does its 360 from 28:38 to about 28:50 = 22 seconds.

 

[Tempest II]

No way, even the major overhaul of K-8Es is done by Pakistanis... They simply cant handle the technology of a 4th gen fighter.

Is it not that Kamra decided to build a JF-17 production line but not a K-8? If you use the same logic, you should have concluded that Pakistan cannot build the JF-17 because they do not build the K-8.

 

[somebozo]

The product in egypt has been mulled as they signed up for more F-16

 

[mikkix]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...-crashed-attock-pilot-killed.html#post2288678

ATTOCK: A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) JF17 jet crashed into Mullah Mansoor mountain in Attock on Monday. The jet was on a routine operational training mission when it crashed, killing the pilot on board.

Rescue teams found the body of Squadron Leader Mohammad Hussain three kilometers from the crash site.

Media reports had earlier stated that the pilot was safe after the jet had crashed on Mullah Mansoor mountains near Mansar Town after taking off from Kamra Airbase.

A regimental centre of the Pakistan Army known as AK Regimental Center is also located at Mansar.

The authorities have so far not given the reason for the crash.

PAF authorities dispatched helicopters and rescue teams to the crash site. The fire was put out by locals and the rescue teams.

Police have cordoned off the area and rescue teams have launched an operation to clear the debris.

An investigation board has been set up to probe the matter.

PAF JF17 aircraft crashes in Attock – The Express Tribune

 

[agentny17]

Well my friend i ll be glad if I am wrong!!! but its true that all the major overhauls if K-8Es are done by Pakistan.... and to acquire expertise for ToT of JF-17 will take long time.

Egypt has K-8 assembly line, if you did not know this already.

 

[agentny17]

Great news, Arab should go for more F-16s.

Egypt came out a big winner in the deal for Ilan Grapel: the US will sell Cairo the F-16 fighter, while Israel frees 25 prisoners.
US Sells F-16s to Egypt in Grapel Deal - Defense/Security - News - Israel National News

Oc 2011- Egypt has come out the big winner in negotiations for the release of U.S.-Israeli national Ilan Grapel, held prisoner by Cairo since June 12 after he inadvertently became caught up in the melee of Tahrir Square's Arab Spring uprising.

Delicate diplomatic wrangling by Israeli and American negotiators over the past five months managed to reduce the charge of espionage by Egyptian authorities down to "incitement" -- but demands for the release of Egyptian prisoners in exchange for Grapel's freedom resulted in both Israel and the United States being forced to fold.

On Israel's side 25 Egyptian prisoners, including three minors, will be taken to the Taba Crossing by 1:00 p.m. today (Thursday) to be transferred into Egyptian custody in exchange for the third-year Emory College law student.

But according to Egyptian military expert General Sameh Sayf al-Yazal, the United States has agreed to a much bigger deal: America will sell its much-acclaimed F-16 fighter to Cairo.

Yazal told the Bethlehem-based Ma'an news agency early Thursday that the U.S. agreed to the price during negotiations for Ilan's release -- a deal that had been rejected by Washington during the Mubarak years in order to maintain the balance of military power in the region.

Israel is being seen as having been the main obstacle to the deal in the past however, having objected to the U.S. selling the F-16 to Egypt because it would equalize Cairo's aerial capabilities with those of the IAF.

However, Israel's resistance to the sale has since diminished due to the development of the F-35, which Israel is set to receive within the next five years, and which will once again upgrade the IAF's regional military superiority.

Egypt has 220+ F-16s already, i don't see any reason why Israel would pressure the US not to give us more, plus the US embassy in Egypt denied all of that stuff Statement on the Release of Ilan Grapel | EMBASSY OF THE UNITED STATES CAIRO, EGYPT

 

[Desert Fox]

Well my friend i ll be glad if I am wrong!!! but its true that all the major overhauls if K-8Es are done by Pakistan.... and to acquire expertise for ToT of JF-17 will take long time.

Among the many things that we Pakistanis should avoid is arrogance and too much pride. If Egypt is assembling K8-E's on their own then is that not something to be proud of? And we should keep in mind that because of reliable allies like China, and above all because of the will of God, Pakistan is able to produce its own fighter jet, otherwise we too didn't have this capability.

If anything, i think it will be China who will be providing the assistance to Egypt with regards to Transfer of Tech.

 

[skybolt]

Pak offers discounted JF-17 fighter jet

 

[agentny17]

Among the many things that we Pakistanis should avoid is arrogance and too much pride. If Egypt is assembling K8-E's on their own then is that not something to be proud of? And we should keep in mind that because of reliable allies like China, and above all because of the will of God, Pakistan is able to produce its own fighter jet, otherwise we too didn't have this capability.

If anything, i think it will be China who will be providing the assistance to Egypt with regards to Transfer of Tech.

Long Live National Socialism!!

Its all good, Egyptians are kinda arrogant too, almost everybody is. Sometimes i rather not say anthing so i don't sound arrogant so i don't give the wrong message about Egyptians and Egypt. I believe in building bridges between people, and looking for what we have in common, not what we disagree on or could fight about, i am too old for that, lol.... I really believe that we as brothers should work together, if we want to develop. Countries like Turkey, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia. ect.. should always work together, or we will always stay "weak".
I also believe that China and Pakistan will provide the assistance to Egypt regarding TOT.

 

[skybolt]

DUBAI: China, Pakistan tout affordability of JF-17

Five countries in the Middle East are evaluating the JF-17 as an affordable replacement fighter alongside China's Peoples Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF).

The sales opportunities for the programme were described by the head of the Pakistan air force, Air Chief Marshall Rao Qamar Suleman. He was speaking at a press briefing hosted by the PAF and the China Aviation Technology/Import-Export Corporation (CATIC), the government-owned company responsible for Beijing's aerospace defence exports.

He added that the five countries could send pilots to Pakistan to evaluate the single-engine fighter.

He also said he visited the PLAAF in China recently, where he discussed the programme with his Chinese counterparts.

It has long been known that the PLAAF has followed the JF-17 programme closely, but most industry observers have shared the view that it prefers to focus on replacing older aircraft with the J-10A, J-10B and Shenyang J-11.

ACM Suleman and the other presenters placed great emphasis on their claims about the JF-17's affordability. They claim the aircraft is two to three times cheaper than rivals on a flyaway basis, and that the aircraft is also inexpensive to support.

Separately, PAF Air Commodore Khalid Mahmood, deputy chief project director (operations) for the JF-17 programme, said there is a potential market of around 4,000-5,000 aircraft as air forces seek to replace Mikoyan MiG-21s, MiG-23s, MiG-29s and Northrop F-5s.

"There is no plane that gives this much capability at this cost," added Air Cdre Mahmood.

He said that in PAF service the aircraft has completed 10,000 sorties. The PAF has two active squadrons of 16-18 aircraft each, with the third squadron to be activated in the coming months. The PAF has confirmed it will buy 150 aircraft, but this could run to 250.

He said about half of the airframe and more than half of the avionics are produced in Pakistan.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Its all good, Egyptians are kinda arrogant too, almost everybody is. Sometimes i rather not say anthing so i don't sound arrogant so i don't give the wrong message about Egyptians and Egypt. I believe in building bridges between people, and looking for what we have in common, not what we disagree on or could fight about, i am too old for that, lol.... I really believe that we as brothers should work together, if we want to develop. Countries like Turkey, Iran, Egypt, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia. ect.. should always work together, or we will always stay "weak".
I also believe that China and Pakistan will provide the assistance to Egypt regarding TOT.

We also want to see your country strong...Abt ToT.. yes brother... as designers we can both help u guys with ToT.

Anyways God bless u n ur nation....and pray for our country aswell.. as Sqd Ldr Hussien who embraced martyrdom today.

 

[agentny17]

We also want to see your country strong...Abt ToT.. yes brother... as designers we can both help u guys with ToT.

Anyways God bless u n ur nation....and pray for our country aswell.. as Sqd Ldr Hussien who embraced martyrdom today.

God bless Pakistan and its people. God bless Sqd Ldr Hussien, and hope he is in "jennah" now.

 

[skybolt]

 

[skybolt]