DRDO says its Kaveri engine can power combat drones 80 kN of thrust now.

[Firemaster]

Yes shut down DRDO and US will supply us Arihant, Agni, Prithvi, Shaurya, Prahaar, Akash, Arjun, torpedoes, electronic warfare, ships, UAVs, Brahmos, LRSAM and all others thing. Isn't it?

Lol

 

[jdme]

Yes shut down DRDO and US will supply us Arihant, Agni, Prithvi, Shaurya, Prahaar, Akash, Arjun, torpedoes, electronic warfare, ships, UAVs, Brahmos, LRSAM and all others thing. Isn't it?

And how much do we spend on our banana military's weapon procurement program every year? Yes, we should buy tanks and missiles from US. Better than whatever DRDO even claims on paper. I totally support it. I wouldn't bet my life on anything "build" by DRDO but you are free to do so. Down with DRDO.

Another solution is to go for massive privatization of military sector.

 

[Kinetic]

And how much do we spend on our banana military's weapon procurement program every year? Yes, we should buy tanks and missiles from US. Better than whatever DRDO even claims on paper. I totally support it.

Alas!!!!


You are not the President of the United States! You may totally support it but US will never sell Trident ICBM or LA class nuclear submarine to India, that bloody DRDO have to develop it, with fraction of money spent for the same in US and without any time overrun! Bloody DRDO had to develop Arjun tank and in future FMBT. Again US is not going to give us that.

I wouldn't bet my life on anything "build" by DRDO but you are free to do so. Down with DRDO.

But Indian army do! That is what we need so far. lol That day will never come when you bet your life on anything build by DRDO. Bet your life on US weapons.

Another solution is to go for massive privatization of military sector.

The private sector could not design a car when DRDO developed long range ballistic missiles.

 

[jdme]

The private sector could not design a car when DRDO developed long range ballistic missiles.

It's called "Indian communism". If Indian private sector was part of weapons program from the very beginning, we would actually have built a plane that our AF could buy. As I said before, I would not trust my life with anything DRDO built. I bet Indian army has no choice. Life is cheap in India otherwise government would never induct anything DRDO "built". It must really chafe that we are 1.2 billion strong and we have so many "old" PSUs and yet there is not one world known "made in India" product. Not hard to guess, why.

 

[Firemaster]

DRDO like organization is necessary for India but it should be restructured to develop its products in a fast ,time bound and modern way

 

[jdme]

DRDO like organization is necessary for India but it should be restructured to develop its products in a fast ,time bound and modern way

It will never happen. DRDO is never worried about failure. That's why they are so terrible at building anything. There are no consequences to their delays and lies.

 

[Kinetic]

It's called "Indian communism". If Indian private sector was part of weapons program from the very beginning, we would actually have built a plane that our AF could buy.

The private sector could not even help for supplying subsystem of the weapons and they will build fighter plane? lol Is it US that IAF will order thousands of fighters? No. So the private sector cannot sustain. Neither they have technological knowhow.

As I said before, I would not trust my life with anything DRDO built.

YOU EVER HAVE TO. The guy who think Indian life is cheap should not or cannot do this job.

I bet Indian army has no choice.

US army has no choice but to bet their life on US Minuteman-III, Russian army has no choice but to bet their lives on Topol-M and the same way Indian Army has no choice than Agni missiles. If possible than US would have bought ICBM's from Russia, isn't it?

Life is cheap in India otherwise government would never induct anything DRDO "built".

Life is cheap in India for people like you. No life is cheap. US govt would never induct anything built by Boeing or Lockheed if they could buy them from Russia but alas Russians will not sell them. Indian Govt buys DRDO weapons because DRDO is govt, and it makes some of the best weapons in the world at much lower cost than in US.

It must really chafe that we are 1.2 billion strong and we have so many "old" PSUs and yet there is not one world known "made in India" product. Not hard to guess, why.

Is it DRDO to blame your "we"?



DRDO with their limited resources and little inductrial bases in private sector developed all types of systems in India.

 

[Firemaster]

It will never happen. DRDO is never worried about failure. That's why they are so terrible at building anything. There are no consequences to their delays and lies.

Care to elaborate?

why DRDO tested its engine at Russia ? why DRDO made advanced Missiles like k-15, Shaurya ,Prahar,Prithvi,K-4 ,AAD ,PDV?
Why did DRDO construct Arihant class submarine, make Many world class Radar if it would not have cared about Failures

 

[jdme]

The private sector could not even help for supplying subsystem of the weapons and they will build fighter plane? lol Is it US that IAF will order thousands of fighters? No. So the private sector cannot sustain. Neither they have technological knowhow.



US army has no choice but to bet their life on US Minuteman-III, Russian army has no choice but to bet their lives on Topol-M and the same way Indian Army has no choice than Agni missiles. If possible than US would have bought ICBM's from Russia, isn't it?



Life is cheap in India for people like you. No life is cheap. US govt would never induct anything built by Boeing or Lockheed if they could buy them from Russia but alas Russians will not sell them. Indian Govt buys DRDO weapons because DRDO is govt, and it makes some of the best weapons in the world at much lower cost than in US.



Is it DRDO to blame your "we"?



DRDO with their limited resources and little inductrial bases in private sector developed all types of systems in India.

Nicely done. Thanks for proving my point. Now I understand why blind patriotism is so dangerous. Atleast no one buys F-16 because US government/MIC claims it is super awesome plane.

I dare you to give me example of ONE DRDO designed product that was exported and customers were happy with it. Just one.

 

[Kinetic]

It will never happen. DRDO is never worried about failure. That's why they are so terrible at building anything. There are no consequences to their delays and lies.

US also never worried about failures so many projects have been ended up in failures and delays. Bloody foolish Americans. lol

 

[jdme]

Care to elaborate?

why DRDO tested its engine at Russia ? why DRDO made advanced Missiles like k-15, Shaurya ,Prahar,Prithvi,K-4 ,AAD ,PDV?
Why did DRDO construct Arihant class submarine, make Many world class Radar if it would not have cared about Failures

Who said they are world class? Did you check it personally? Is there any third party that can verify their claim? Enlighten me.

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US also never worried about failures so many projects have been ended up in failures and delays. Bloody foolish Americans. lol

There is no US. Losses are suffered by private corporations. Bad products are discarded.

 

[Kinetic]

Nicely done. Thanks for proving my point. Now I understand why blind patriotism is so dangerous.

This is not new, I am also amazed by inferiority complex of the NRIs in US. lol Encouraging DRDO is not called blind patriotism but supporting own country India is. DRDO has done more than what we expect from it with the limited resources.

Atleast no one buys F-16 because US government/MIC claims it is super awesome plane.

I bet they do not have other choices just like Indian army.

lol at US govt and their MIC, if half of the invest would have been provided to DRDO or anywhere else the productivity would have been 500% more. They are good at wasting many and lining up failed systems. Last many Minuteman III ICBM launches were failures. lol

I dare you to give me example of ONE DRDO designed product that was exported and customers were happy with it. Just one.

I dare you to give many examples where DRDO designed products have been in inducted into the Indian military and they are very happy with it.

 

[Firemaster]

Who said they are world class? Did you check it personally? Is there any third party that can verify their claim? Enlighten me.

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There is no US. Losses are suffered by private corporations. Bad products are discarded.

Why we need third party Verification ?
If our armed forces are satisfied then who cares? Yes a few systems are there with which our forces are not satisfied but improvements are being made. and remember DRDO budget is very tiny as compared to US
I really pity the people who need foreigner's verification .......... just leave it

 

[Kinetic]

There is no US. Losses are suffered by private corporations. Bad products are discarded.

Those private corporations are funded by US govt and those private corporations build almost all weapons for US military. Those bloody fool American army have no choice but to buy US weapons like F-16 or F-18 which even IAF rejected in favor of Rafale and EFT! Shame! I will never bet my life on any US "build" weapons.

Who said they are world class? Did you check it personally? Is there any third party that can verify their claim? Enlighten me.

That US propaganda of calling F-22 world's best fighter plane is not verified by anyone, think why! lol Now we should bring third party to check our missiles!!!!!! Who in the world will be more foolish than us?

 

[jdme]

This is not new, I am also amazed by inferiority complex of the NRIs in US. lol Encouraging DRDO is not called blind patriotism but supporting own country India is. DRDO has done more than what we expect from it with the limited resources.

I am not a NRI. I will lose my "inferiority" complex when I see Indian building something others are willing to buy. DRDO is getting encouragement for decades now. Another so called "resource constrained" organization will concentrate on one product and try to excel so that they can make money from it and then expand. DRDO builds everything. Hell, they build everything! And yet, India is spending more and more money on foreign equipments and this is not some phase thing.

I bet they do not have other choices just like Indian army.

Did you mean USAF or navy? yes, they do. It's called buying planes from other companies or not buy at all. They can wait because they are not the one footing the bill.

lol at US govt and their MIC, if half of the invest would have been provided to DRDO or anywhere else the productivity would have been 500% more. They are good at wasting many and lining up failed systems. Last many Minuteman III ICBM launches were failures. lol

So how much money do you think Chinese spend on their weapons program? What about South Africa? Hell what about Morocco? |Has India EVER built even a bullet that any other country would call a quality product?

I dare you to give many examples where DRDO designed products have been in inducted into the Indian military and they are very happy with it.

Wow. Our mighty military is happy with sub-standard products! Never mind the yearly import bills.