DRDO says its Kaveri engine can power combat drones 80 kN of thrust now.

[Vibs]

Vibs, You are falsely blaming US dude. He is not from US. These accounts are created for India bashing. these losers cannot bash India with their own country's flag.





The same false flag! How many people are so there I do not not, they come up with US, Vietnam, France etc flags and bash India!

Well, I call it like I see it. He got to a 100 posts with a false flag?

 

[fast]

As opposed to arrogant Americans who believe every product coming out of it's inventory is divine creation unrivaled by mere mortals the world over?

You have an inferior complex if you view us like that. Our great products are through ingenious design and hard work, which India lacks.

The Kaveri test engine on the IL 76 proved good enough at 80 KN. GE F141 is good for the time being, but eventually there will be a shift to indigenous capabilities.

80 KN "tested" apparently is not enough, not even for the "Light" Combat Aircraft. Shifting to indigenous engine is just wishful thinking with Kaveri at a deadend.

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Thanks for suggestion, Point taken.. But before talking in this tone can you please let me know how much we spent on Kaveri?? and ow much USA have spent on failed/canceled projects.. If spending on kavei is .001% of American expenditure on cancel project, we will stop R&D work....

Point taken. We had many failed and canceled projects. We admitted it when it failed, and moved on, whereas Indians kept calling their failed projects a success.

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Vibs, You are falsely blaming US dude. He is not from US. These accounts are created for India bashing. these losers cannot bash India with their own country's flag.

Laughing_soldier, stop lying about my nationality. I'm from U.S. through and through. You are lying about your CA flag while in Singapore.

 

[Vibs]

You have an inferior complex if you view us like that. Our great products are through ingenious design and hard work, which India lacks.



80 KN "tested" apparently is not enough, not even for the "Light" Combat Aircraft. Shifting to indigenous engine is just wishful thinking with Kaveri at a deadend.

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Point taken. We had many failed and canceled projects. We admitted it when it failed, and moved on, whereas Indians kept calling their failed projects a success.

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Laughing_soldier, stop lying about my nationality. I'm from U.S. through and through. You are lying about your CA flag while in Singapore.

I repeat.
Get off your high horse and get a whiff of ground realities. The USA was not born with high technology right from the get go. It took 2 world wars, defection of scientists from rival nations and a cold war to get to where you are and any American who believes other wise is naive.

 

[Laughing_soldier]

Well, I call it like I see it. He got to a 100 posts with a false flag?

Yes. Check his posts! All of them are India bashing!!!! He log in to do that only. There are many like him. India and US are friendly countries, we have good relation how do you expect such guy from there?

 

[fast]

There are many like him. India and US are friendly countries, we have good relation how do you expect such guy from there?

You are being paranoid and naive. You expect the whole country acts as one?! Indians even kill other Indians within India.

Yes, there are many like me, and we are going to get you at night. BOOM! Are you scared yet? LOL.

 

[WHITESMOKE]

Hey "fast" why are you still here??? Soldier already busted your identity ... better make new ID. According to your logic 80KN is nothing.. Do you really know what it means to be 80KN??? Try to learn something from threads.. too much India bashing is not good.

@Topic: Can anybody tell me any updates about the french JV.. is it still in pipeline? And what about new "desi" core? Any progress?

 

[Laughing_soldier]

@Topic: Can anybody tell me any updates about the french JV.. is it still in pipeline? And what about new "desi" core? Any progress?

The deal is not finalized yet. Initial indication was Snacma core and later Kabini core but not finalized. not sure but I think it will be JV.

 

[Vibs]

@Topic: Can anybody tell me any updates about the french JV.. is it still in pipeline? And what about new "desi" core? Any progress?

French JV still not approved. Very sketchy info on the rest. There are talks of a non-afterburning version for an advanced jet trainer being developed, and a high-bypass-ratio turbofan based on the Kabini core in progress.

 

[fast]

Hey "fast" why are you still here??? Solider already busted your identity ... better make new ID. According to your logic 80KN is nothing.. Do you really know what it means to be 80KN??? Try to learn something from threads.. too much India bashing is not good.

Why are you still here? Soldier did nothing but paranoid rubbish. I don't care to prove anything. You are welcomed to have the same delusion as him.

Apparently you haven't got the memo from DRDO that your beloved 80KN engine is only good for ground transportation and not fitted to fly with pilots. Another flying coffin in the making?

 

[SQ8]

Stick to the topic

 

[fast]

Colossal failure: India’s Kavari ‘engine’
by: Times of Bombay

The soap opera of the Kaveri engines doesn’t ever seem to end. It has been in the design phase for about three decades with untold millions spent on the plane. Official figures vary, but experts estimate that about $1 billion has been spent on an engine that does nothing for the Indian Air Force.

The Kaveri was originally planned for the Tejas fighter which also has been in the design phase for 30 or so years. The Kevari has been a colossal failure, but the corrupt politicians and the military thieves want to milk it for all its worth and stuff their pockets.

The French Snecma may be an option but France may have to build a new engine for Bharat–which seems a far cry and may not be possible in the immediate future. The Tejas was designed three decades ago. Its design is obsolete now. Bharat needs a trainer aircraft, but it does not have one–hence the more than 300 Mig crashes which makes the IAF the Air Force with the worst track record on the planet.

The Kaveri was then positioned as some sort of a power source for a naval vessel.

Kaveri Marine Gas Turbine to Power Indian Navy Ships
Modified Kaveri engine to propel Indian Navy ships - Thaindian News

While the Bharatis make up their mind whether the Kavari wil swim or fly, the world can look an the development cycle in awe–can the Kavari walk also and propel tanks?

Now the news item proudly proclaims that the Kaveri will fly again–however on a Russian plane. The press report from the DRDO did not give details whether the Kaveri would fly in the cargo hold of the Russian plan or be strapped on the wings. Bharat has already grounded the IL-76s—not sure why the Kaveri would be flying on tankers.

Nearly two decades after defence scientists began work on an indigenous fighter engine Kaveri, officials said Kaveri will be tested on a Russian aircraft in the next two months.

Scientists of Gas Turbine and Research Establishment or GTRE, the DRDO unit have integrated the engine, developed in Bengalurum on an Illyushin 78 transport aircraft in Russia.

Tejas is now being powered by General Electric-404 engines due to delays in development of Kaveri.

India has floated a tender to decide on either an upgraded GE engine on Eurofighter engine for Tejas.

Parallely, GTRE is going with Snecma of France to build more powerful
engines for Tejas.

Now Snecma will bring in the core, called “Eco”for the new engine and integrate with systems developed for Kaveri.

The Kaveri programme has cost the exchequer nerarly Rs 2800 crore.

India’s indigenous Tejas is plane under perpetual development. This “plane” has had the longest development cycle of any train, plane or automobile in the history of world. After a decade of false starts, abject failures, the Tejas remains a butt of jokes among the engineers, journalists and scientists in the aviation industry. Indian Airforce crying wolf? or facing shortage of jets?

A lot can be achieved in two and a half decades. For an individual, its roughly one-third of the average lifespan. For a nation, its enough time for an entire generation to come through. A nation can be transformed from a marshy swamp into one of the largest economies of the world – as in the case of Singapore.

 

[majesticpankaj]

Colossal failure: India’s Kavari ‘engine’
by: Times of Bombay

The soap opera of the Kaveri engines doesn’t ever seem to end. It has been in the design phase for about three decades with untold millions spent on the plane. Official figures vary, but experts estimate that about $1 billion has been spent on an engine that does nothing for the Indian Air Force.

The Kaveri was originally planned for the Tejas fighter which also has been in the design phase for 30 or so years. The Kevari has been a colossal failure, but the corrupt politicians and the military thieves want to milk it for all its worth and stuff their pockets.

The French Snecma may be an option but France may have to build a new engine for Bharat–which seems a far cry and may not be possible in the immediate future. The Tejas was designed three decades ago. Its design is obsolete now. Bharat needs a trainer aircraft, but it does not have one–hence the more than 300 Mig crashes which makes the IAF the Air Force with the worst track record on the planet.

The Kaveri was then positioned as some sort of a power source for a naval vessel.

Kaveri Marine Gas Turbine to Power Indian Navy Ships
Modified Kaveri engine to propel Indian Navy ships - Thaindian News

While the Bharatis make up their mind whether the Kavari wil swim or fly, the world can look an the development cycle in awe–can the Kavari walk also and propel tanks?

Now the news item proudly proclaims that the Kaveri will fly again–however on a Russian plane. The press report from the DRDO did not give details whether the Kaveri would fly in the cargo hold of the Russian plan or be strapped on the wings. Bharat has already grounded the IL-76s—not sure why the Kaveri would be flying on tankers.

Nearly two decades after defence scientists began work on an indigenous fighter engine Kaveri, officials said Kaveri will be tested on a Russian aircraft in the next two months.

Scientists of Gas Turbine and Research Establishment or GTRE, the DRDO unit have integrated the engine, developed in Bengalurum on an Illyushin 78 transport aircraft in Russia.

Tejas is now being powered by General Electric-404 engines due to delays in development of Kaveri.

India has floated a tender to decide on either an upgraded GE engine on Eurofighter engine for Tejas.

Parallely, GTRE is going with Snecma of France to build more powerful
engines for Tejas.

Now Snecma will bring in the core, called “Eco”for the new engine and integrate with systems developed for Kaveri.

The Kaveri programme has cost the exchequer nerarly Rs 2800 crore.

India’s indigenous Tejas is plane under perpetual development. This “plane” has had the longest development cycle of any train, plane or automobile in the history of world. After a decade of false starts, abject failures, the Tejas remains a butt of jokes among the engineers, journalists and scientists in the aviation industry. Indian Airforce crying wolf? or facing shortage of jets?

A lot can be achieved in two and a half decades. For an individual, its roughly one-third of the average lifespan. For a nation, its enough time for an entire generation to come through. A nation can be transformed from a marshy swamp into one of the largest economies of the world – as in the case of Singapore.

rupee news

 

[LURKER]

rupee news

one word and busted

they could have made this article look neutral with all the BS written by calling INDIA as INDIA .....kuch aadatien kabhi nhi jaati hain

 

[Kinetic]

Colossal failure: India’s Kavari ‘engine’
by: Times of Bombay

rupeenews!!! It is not Pakistan to declare whether Indian systems are success or failure.

I know as a India hater you have total privileges to troll here but do that in some manner. the rupeenews like BS will not work. better try common hate mongering. All the best.


Only 3/4 countries developed such engines and recent high altitude tests in Russia are total success. The marine version is certified by navy for naval uses. Railway wants it for engine.

You have an inferior complex if you view us like that. Our great products are through ingenious design and hard work, which India lacks.



80 KN "tested" apparently is not enough, not even for the "Light" Combat Aircraft. Shifting to indigenous engine is just wishful thinking with Kaveri at a deadend.

Al is well for you!!!! Carry onnn!!!!

 

[fast]

rupee news

trojan_detected, majesticpankaj, Kinetic are all wrong, as usual for such closed-mind paranoid simpletons who think they are smart.

The source link is here. Colossal failure: India’s Kavari ‘engine’ | Times of Bombay