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Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan - "Osama raid was staged"

Suspicions? Do you think we really care? But do you know who cares the most? His wives and children who are being deported back to Saudi Arabia. Is Osama bin Laden alive?

Actually NOT. Some "AMERCIANS" think that he was dead way back in 2001.

[video]http://t.co/U5CrHTh5[/video]

I think the better question is: Can Osama bin Laden HIMSELF prove he is alive? :lol:

If I say YOU are dead, and YOU are not. What is most logical action for YOU to do? Stay dead?

And more interestingly, How I can prove that I am alive If I was killed way before my official date of death?
 
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His wife that was shot, saw his head blow off.. Ill take her word over all others.. Forensics confirmed that with the splatter on the walls. Now you could definitely shut me up and say that his wife was probably living with a CIA planted osama double.. or that the wife was a CIA plant or .. the list can go on..
 
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I think the better question is: Can Osama bin Laden HIMSELF prove he is alive? :lol:

If I say YOU are dead, and YOU are not. What is most logical action for YOU to do? Stay dead?

no where in the world the evidence is flushed out, if osama was killed, why was the evidence flushed out

why osama appears younger and with a plastic facial surgery in later video than one before??

second thing, benazir had admitted,osama died a long time ago
 
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I think the better question is: Can Osama bin Laden HIMSELF prove he is alive? :lol:

If I say YOU are dead, and YOU are not. What is most logical action for YOU to do? Stay dead?

Of course, why else do you think Osama's wives are lying? As devout religious wives devoted to a great hero they will ONLY take orders from their husband.

Also what tilts the balance in Osama's favor is that this AQ Khan guy is one of the most responsible and credible guys in Pakistan's long and decorated history.
 
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Stick to the topic. Is Osama bin Laden alive?

na the topic is that a half arsed claim is being made on behalf of a disgraced Nuclear Scientist who is such a "patriot" that he threatens to spill the beans on Pakistan nuclear program because his ego is much more dear to him than the country.

look up his commentary since his naming and shaming and if you ignore his name you cant tell his political commentary from our typical political morons.

one must ask this "nuclear scientist" (metallurgist) that how does he know if this raid was staged when he should be more concerned about his medication regarding his cancer. I wonder how a sacked, house confined scientist in Islamabad has decided to board the conspiracy brigade and still wants to be taken seriously.
 
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na the topic is that a half arsed claim is being made on behalf of a disgraced Nuclear Scientist who is such a "patriot" that he threatens to spill the beans on Pakistan nuclear program because his ego is much more dear to him than the country.

look up his commentary since his naming and shaming and if you ignore his name you cant tell his political commentary from our typical political morons.

one must ask this "nuclear scientist" (metallurgist) that how does he know if this raid was staged when he should be more concerned about his medication regarding his testicular cancer. I wonder how a sacked, house confined scientist in Islamabad has decided to board the conspiracy brigade and still wants to be taken seriously.

disgraced by whom, musharraf bhagoda??

foryou kind information abdul qadeer khan is a metallurgical engineer plus nuclear scientist
 
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I think the better question is: Can Osama bin Laden HIMSELF prove he is alive? :lol:

If I say YOU are dead, and YOU are not. What is most logical action for YOU to do? Stay dead?

he is irrelevant, even if he comes on CNN Larry King Live claiming to be alive and well then I wont care because he has become irrelevant. AQ is not what it used to be, its main source of power has been negated due to Arab Spring and all wana be supporters in Afghanistan and Pakistani tribal areas are getting a routine Drone therapy.
all we need is one stupid courier or on air boast by Zuwahiri and then it will be either an OBL raid or a KSM raid and that will be yet another nail in the coffin of the AQ ideology and its top leadership
 
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DNA fingerprinting of OBLs youngest children will be really helpful?

At least it will de-bunk the claims of those conspiracy theorists who said that he had died long time ago?

I wonder why nobody thought of it.
 
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DNA fingerprinting of OBLs youngest children will be really helpful?

At least it will de-bunk the claims those conspiracy theorists who said that he had died long time ago?

I wonder why nobody thought of it.

pakistan asked america for OBL dna, but USA didnt provide it
 
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no where in the world the evidence is flushed out, if osama was killed, why was the evidence flushed out

why osama appears younger and with a plastic facial surgery in later video than one before??

second thing, benazir had admitted,osama died a long time ago

Flushed out? The forensics teams I am talking about are from the Pakistani side. The interrogators I am talking about are Pakistani as well. The Americans left all the evidence required to ascertain that an Osama bin Laden was brutally murdered in that house. I am not sure what flushed out means? Not one amercican will be required to positively identify that he was there, alive ( sorry, benazir). Lets not get into the propaganda aspect of what he looked in the videos and what not, read the proper materials and put this conspiracy to a rest.

pakistan asked america for OBL dna, but USA didnt provide it

Please show me where they asked for that. There is not a single intel agency in the world that would not have Osama DNA, thats a stupid request to begin with. Our intel agencies confirmed it was Osama by the DNA in the house.
 
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This reminds me of the match fixing saga with anyone & everyone trying to stew their version of how the events unfolded ! I'm sure lots of people in the West have their stupid theories about Osama as well, personally I think its just a way to be in the limelight or at worst the old man's gone senile.
na the topic is that a half arsed claim is being made on behalf of a disgraced Nuclear Scientist who is such a "patriot" that he threatens to spill the beans on Pakistan nuclear program because his ego is much more dear to him than the country.

look up his commentary since his naming and shaming and if you ignore his name you cant tell his political commentary from our typical political morons.

one must ask this "nuclear scientist" (metallurgist) that how does he know if this raid was staged when he should be more concerned about his medication regarding his testicular cancer. I wonder how a sacked, house confined scientist in Islamabad has decided to board the conspiracy brigade and still wants to be taken seriously.
:rofl:
 
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Please show me where they asked for that. There is not a single intel agency in the world that would not have Osama DNA, thats a stupid request to begin with. Our intel agencies confirmed it was Osama by the DNA in the house.

our intel agency didnt even know about the operation, most probably americans wiped the bloodoff before leaving

our intelligence agency didnt even know about supposedly osama hide out, means ISI is just a fail org
 
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Something very relevant in this context. A majority of Pakistanis in this forum like the mango Abduls on the street do indulge in such theories, as can be seen above.

Bin Laden theories flourish in Pakistan
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One theory popular among residents of the area is that bin Laden was never there. PHOTO: AFP

ABBOTABAD: A year after Osama bin Laden’s death, little is known about what the Pakistani authorities knew of his presence, allowing wild theories on what “really” happened to flourish.

Sitting on a rock by his garlic patch in the Bilal Town district of Abbottabad, around 80km north of Islamabad, Zain Mohammad says he wishes people would stop calling him “bin Laden’s neighbour”.

The nickname has stuck since last May, when a US special forces raid killed the 9/11 mastermind just a few metres from his house.

He’s not embarrassed, he says, just concerned for the truth. Like almost everyone else in this part of Abbottabad, a quiet town tucked in the foothills of the Himalayas, he doesn’t believe bin Laden was ever there.

But what about the American raid, the gunfire and explosions, the widows and children found in the house?

“I don’t think bin Laden was here. Only innocent people, with no links with al Qaeda or other militant groups, lived there and were martyred,” he said.

Aurangzeb, the head of a local school, is equally confident.

“Bin Laden was not here. His family maybe, but not him. This is just a drama set up by Americans with the complicity of the Pakistani army, which can do anything for money, they are just beggars!” he said.

It is a popular theory in the area. A local journalist says people are simply unwilling to accept such a notorious character was living in their midst.

“The reality is they are ashamed that bin Laden was hiding there while at the same time groups affiliated with al Qaeda killed thousands of people all over the country with their suicide bombings,” he said.

On the morning of May 2 last year, the same shame, along with fear, was felt at the highest levels of Pakistan’s all-powerful military, a security source said, reiterating the intelligence service’s line that they knew nothing about bin Laden’s presence in Pakistan — a theory that has cut little ice in Washington.

“Military chiefs felt betrayed by the US, who did not tell them before the raid,” the official said.

“There was above all an element of fear among them when they realised that they were unable to control all their units and to know if some of them, linked to militants, helped bin Laden to hide there.”

In a sign of the gravity of the situation, General Shuja Pasha, head of the Inter Services Intelligence agency, made a rare admission in May when he acknowledged failings over bin Laden before parliament.

But he said little more, and the veil once again came down on the bin Laden affair.

For months the army barred all access to the Abbottabad house, before demolishing it suddenly in February, while the Americans refused to release a single photograph of bin Laden.

So the rumour mill began to whir: some believe the Americans brought bin Laden alive from Afghanistan and killed him in Abbottabad to smear Pakistan’s reputation. Others insist the Saudi terror mastermind is still alive.

Mystery also surrounds bin Laden’s three widows and children who lived with him in Abbottabad and were held by the Pakistanis after the Americans left them behind.

They were deported from Pakistan to Saudi Arabia on Friday after almost a year in custody, in which they did not make a single public appearance, creating yet more wild rumours.

Last month a retired Pakistani general claimed one of bin Laden’s wives betrayed him to the Americans in a fit of jealousy over a younger wife.

And a week before the deportation, a police officer guarding the house where the family was being held told AFP that one of the wives had given birth a few days earlier — 11 months after the death of the presumed father.

Will the full story of bin Laden’s time on the run in Pakistan and who knew about it ever emerge? In a country which seems to specialise in political and military mysteries, it looks unlikely.

The assassins of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto, killed more than four years ago, have yet to be brought to justice and the death of military ruler General Zia-ul Haq nearly 25 years ago is still shrouded in mystery.

For the intelligence services, crazy theories serve a useful function, the security official explained.

“For the vast majority of the population, often uneducated, the army prefers to let conspiracy theories flourish instead of using transparency that could bring a greater shame, so people don’t entirely lose faith in the intelligence agencies’ ability to protect them from danger,” he said.
 
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Flushed out? The forensics teams I am talking about are from the Pakistani side. The interrogators I am talking about are Pakistani as well. The Americans left all the evidence required to ascertain that an Osama bin Laden was brutally murdered in that house. I am not sure what flushed out means? Not one amercican will be required to positively identify that he was there, alive ( sorry, benazir). Lets not get into the propaganda aspect of what he looked in the videos and what not, read the proper materials and put this conspiracy to a rest.

so every legal question raised about the operation is a conspiracy to you, i meant osama body which was the biggest evidence was thrown to sea, have you seen any foreinsic team garbage the evidence like that?? why US threw him to the sea?? the US says, people might have made him hero blah blah, as if its some 'reasoanble explanation' to you

only foolish people will not question the authenticity of the videos,it clearly showed another guy which was not osama, and only fools willbelieve what americans say

america has also attacked iraq on the bases it had chemical weapons, wasnt it a conspiracy theory in the first place??
 
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so every legal question raised about the operation is a conspiracy to you, i meant osama body which was the biggest evidence was thrown to sea, have you seen any foreinsic team garbage the evidence like that?? why US threw him to the sea?? the US says, people might have made him hero blah blah, as if its some 'reasoanble explanation' to you

only foolish people will not question the authenticity of the videos,it clearly showed another guy which was not osama, and only fools willbelieve what americans say

america has also attacked iraq on the bases it had chemical weapons, wasnt it a conspiracy theory in the first place??

Well let me know when you have your answers from the Americans .. they have no such requirements to appease us with information or answering why they did something.. in the mean time you are more than welcome to believe whatever everyone says.. they could care less..
 
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