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US should start deporting Pakistanis ... USA has a lot of leverage over Pakistan

US should start deporting Pakistanis ... USA has a lot of leverage over Pakistan
Why stop there deport all Indians from USA too. Talk sense
 
I respect your opinion but do not agree with it. You failed to realise the damage this man did to polio campaign in Pakistan because of which Pakistan could not eradicate polio and now faces travel restrictions. May i ask to remove your Indian shades and look at it without the usual Pakistan biased. Besides no country will tolerate anyone working for another country's intelligence. The rules dont change for Pakistan irrespective of what he did.
As for AQ khan he is nothing more but a disgraced scientist. National hero please! i expect better.
Hey your bakra, you can cut from the neck or the ***, I barely care.

so you think an individual should be incarcerated for 33 years if he is found guilty of working with a foreign intelligence?
 
some body please explain

as claimed by Pak, Osama wasnt in Abotabad

hence how can that doctor help tracking Osama ?

why has he been witch hunted ?
if there was no one that got killed in abotabad
 
Hey your bakra, you can cut from the neck or the ***, I barely care.

so you think an individual should be incarcerated for 33 years if he is found guilty of working with a foreign intelligence?
Risking the lives of Pakistani children at the behest of CIA he should be hanged....publicly that is
 
@Solomon2 This is very tricky ground. Two things come to my mind that I think are pertinent to the Dr. Shakeel Afridi case.

1. He colluded with a spy agency of a foreign power - that it was a ally does not change the substance of the matter. UK and USA are as close as can be but I doubt I could become a secret 'operative' of CIA without it being looked down in badly by the authorities in UK. In particular without relevant authorization from UK agencies and knowledge of British government.

2. He colluded in a manner that was extremely damaging to the polio campaign. This is extremely difficult to defend as being a doctor and Pakistani he should have known that using polio as a mask would lead to untold damage to that campaign and thousands of young innocents would suffer as he would know that there would be backlash from the conservatives and extremists. He had as a doctor moral duty to not bring the polio campaign into disrepute which is what exactly what happened. This in my opinion is inexcusable given that he did what he did for monetery gain.


This said however we must always look at the backdrop. No event happens in isolation. If we take a step back and look at the bigger picture the Dr. Afridi's infamous act shrinks and far bigger ugliness takes it's place. Some big questions appear.

1. How did OBL manage to get into Pakistan?
2. How did OBL manage to hide in Pakistan for so long?

These questions expose the gross failure of Pakistani security apparatus or even raise the spectre of complicity. If we ignore the latter the question of gross failure still subsists. In any balance country heads would roll. You can't have such gross failure and then go on as if nothing happened. The big question is whose failure was it that led to Pakistan's international humiliation? Pakistan at worse looked complicit or at best incompetent. Who failed here? Interior minister? ISI chief? Police chief? Chief of staff? Maybe the Prime Minister? All or some of these guy's should have lost their jobs and searching questions should have been asked of all organs of the Pakistani state that failed so miserably. Their failure are far more bigger 'crimes' then what Dr.Afridi did.

However there is zero chance that those who were at helm of the Pakistani state will face accountability. Instead all the blame has been shifted over to Dr. Afridi and thus he has been used as a scapegoat. As I said right at the start, he did wrong but lesser so than those at the top. But he became the fall guy for their failures.

All the public anger has been deflected on to Dr.Afridi whilst the rest got to keep their jobs, pensions and walk away with their reputations intact. The entire OBL fiasco has been neatly dumped on the doctor overlooking the fact that even if there had been no Dr.Afridi the OBL affair still would have exploded inside Pakistan.
 
Isn't it Pakistan was aware of US' operation and they helped them tracing OBL?

At least pakistanis on this platform claim so but not sure why the doctor's action considered as treason even though he did what innocent pakistan was doing in collusion with US.
 
@Solomon2 This is very tricky ground. Two things come to my mind that I think are pertinent to the Dr. Shakeel Afridi case.

1. He colluded with a spy agency of a foreign power -
Dr. A. didn't know of the CIA connection.

2. He colluded in a manner that was extremely damaging to the polio campaign
Dr. A.'s campaign had to do with Hepatitis A, not polio. If you do some Google sleuthing you'll discover who originated the meme that it was polio. I don't think you'll be very happy with your discovery.


This said however we must always look at the backdrop. No event happens in isolation. If we take a step back and look at the bigger picture the Dr. Afridi's infamous act shrinks and far bigger ugliness takes it's place. Some big questions appear.

1. How did OBL manage to get into Pakistan?
2. How did OBL manage to hide in Pakistan for so long?

These questions expose the gross failure of Pakistani security apparatus or even raise the spectre of complicity.
Was it Dr. A. who committed "treason" to Pakistan or was it those who allowed OBL to stay comfortably in Abbottabad for years? Who decides what is treason and what is loyalty to Pakistan?
 
Was it Dr. A. who committed "treason" to Pakistan or was it those who allowed OBL to stay comfortably in Abbottabad for years? Who decides what is treason and what is loyalty to Pakistan?
That is the million dollar question. Dr. A has become a convenient escape from this very question and I can't help but think this was by design.

Let's face it, if we accept Pakistan was not complicit it makes Pakistan look like real muppet where a 6' 6'' Arab - the most wanted man on earth took refuge and got to chill there for years. So much for ISI much talked about competence when they did not know OBL was chllin around the corner along with his harem.
 
OBL killed 3000 innocent people in USA... if Pakistani society helps a criminal... you will be seen as very bad people in history books... try to clear your bad name
 
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This is the evidence. believe us.
 
He should be hanged. Promise of USA visa make many people traitors to their own land. Just see how many Afghans used to help USA soldiers just to get American visa. Doctor family should be punished as well.


Can i ask you one question. Actually i don't understand why you are calling doct as traitor. May be sm mussing someyhing.
 
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