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Listening to the dangerous rhetoric from both sides is "interesting" and always a very easy thing to do on the periphery, looking in.
Donald Trump slams Pakistan for lies and deceit
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What do u guys think @Irfan Baloch @Areesh @django @The Eagle
Is there going to be a face off in next 24 hrs?
Is there going to be a face off in next 24 hrs?
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If Pakistan plays a double game and US let it happen than it means its a Double side Double game, and if US didn't know that Shut and Seal the door of Panty-Gon for the good .. cause if a Country size of Pakistan can make a Super power engage in a remote country like Afghanistan , than its humiliation for America ... in Pakistan as well call it " Lakh di Laanat tere mun te " and , " Taala maar de hun Pentagon pe "
I am waiting for USA to completely break ties with Pakistan, and announce the cut to all sort of Aid, and start fencing the Pak-Afghan Border for the protection of their soldiers
I am waiting for USA to completely break ties with Pakistan, and announce the cut to all sort of Aid, and start fencing the Pak-Afghan Border for the protection of their soldiers
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starting in 3.2.1
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Paid pushers like that 3rd rated , kalsras been organised by croupt politicains to hit back on.our defence forces , musharaf did well in.his times whatever money we got by foolin stupid cowboys who were hell bent to drop bombs on hills in afghanistan should realise that winning a war in afghanistan is an art , which only & only can be learnt pakarmy !
Musharaf not only made money but he spent quickly on the population , more banks atms , loans for homes _ for cars ! Given to normal peoples of pakistan !
telecommunication companies been.luanched at his times bringing more jobs to common men in pakistan , infrastructure all over pakistan was growing under him & thus all the economic charts of his times can prove enough what he did ?
Problem was he caught , OBL & debriefed OBL , smartly which made who CIA afraid of him, that was the point , when CIA decided to bring back the crooked politicians back to pakistan .
As far as the development under ppp & PMLn bb or nawaz sharif goes , just have tour of the ancestorl cities of both leadership you ill think u are living in 1800s ?
But forget about him , lets rock with trump , after all said & done , when pakistans deep state shuts down all its support to US forces in afghanistan , where they will stand then ????
China was & still is ,the best option for pakistan even russia with its tech is way to move !
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Nothing so special, mid term elections in US are around the corner
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Oh yes lulbhushan was watching indian movies in pakistan when he get caught ??? Right ? Lol
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Apology to users of this forum. I am not in favor of trolling at all but it seems inevitable. Let's give this flying thing to Trump's words :
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They attack you when you have peace and give you crocodile tears when you suffer.
Right now they are mocking your dead with their callous arguement, an insult to every Pakistani. We mourn and honor our dead. Time to choke their supply route.
149 children died in their own school massacred by US sponsered Afghan terorrists. These people are psychotics.
Right now they are mocking your dead with their callous arguement, an insult to every Pakistani. We mourn and honor our dead. Time to choke their supply route.
149 children died in their own school massacred by US sponsered Afghan terorrists. These people are psychotics.
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Be brave bring bharat mata s super army to afghanistan then see what will happens to tht, hopfully it will brust your dam bubble forever ?lolIndia just opened 7 consulates and your leadership gets terrified and blame India for terrorism. On alone Kulbhushan which you claim to be spy terrified you, so you can just imagine. India does not believe in stationing troops. And for India air routes work well
India is temporarily not a direct naighbour, but Pak occupied Kashmir is part of India and witth that respect yes India touches Afg.
yes you people are not generating enough revenues and thus your military has to use other methods to pay back.
yes we know the conditions of such payments and price rise and china stop paying payment over graft in road projects..
And you think India will wait and watch? Amazing.
US is an english speaking country and there are many Pakistanis who wish to leave to US and many who are residing there. Pakistan in any case will not get out of US sphere. Even when you try your best.
This means you will have to do what US says. Rest is your army's propaganda to fool you people that they are taking US head on.
Most of the leaders in Pak are bribed either by China or US, what nation are you talking about? It's just a matter of green notes.
even I can make you admit that you are sunny leone , just need to spend few hours in toture chamber
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India just opened 7 consulates and your leadership gets terrified and blame India for terrorism. On alone Kulbhushan which you claim to be spy terrified you, so you can just imagine. India does not believe in stationing troops. And for India air routes work well
India is temporarily not a direct naighbour, but Pak occupied Kashmir is part of India and witth that respect yes India touches Afg.
yes you people are not generating enough revenues and thus your military has to use other methods to pay back.
yes we know the conditions of such payments and price rise and china stop paying payment over graft in road projects..
And you think India will wait and watch? Amazing.
US is an english speaking country and there are many Pakistanis who wish to leave to US and many who are residing there. Pakistan in any case will not get out of US sphere. Even when you try your best.
This means you will have to do what US says. Rest is your army's propaganda to fool you people that they are taking US head on.
Most of the leaders in Pak are bribed either by China or US, what nation are you talking about? It's just a matter of green notes.
even I can make you admit that you are sunny leone , just need to spend few hours in toture chamber
You are a moron and an insult to human intellect. Now buzz off, don't have time for BS coming out of your peanut brain.
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In his first message directed at a foreign nation in the new year, US President Donald Trump took to Twitter to accuse Pakistan of lies and deceit, however, Pakistani authorities have said that the US should hold its own people accountable for its failures in Afghanistan instead of blaming Pakistan.
Donald Trump has had a turbulent relationship with Pakistan for years. Right after becoming the US president he spoke to the then Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif calling him a “terrific guy” who was doing an “amazing job.”.
"Please convey to the Pakistani people that they are amazing and all Pakistanis I have known are exceptional people," Trump further added, according to a readout released by the Pakistan government.
Back then Pakistan’s Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said that the Pakistan government looked forward to working with the new US administration. He spoke to US ambassador David Hale and the two sides discussed matters of bilateral interests, particularly trade and economic relations.
That stance changed some six months later when Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited Washington in June. After that trip both India and the US pointed fingers at Pakistan saying that the latter is not doing enough to combat terrorism.
In August Trump revealed his new South Asia strategy further blaming Pakistan for “giving safe haven to agents of chaos, violence, and terror.”
"We can no longer be silent about Pakistan's safe havens for terrorist organizations, the Taliban, and other groups that pose a threat to the region and beyond. Pakistan has much to gain from partnering with our effort in Afghanistan. It has much to lose by continuing to harbor criminals and terrorists," First Post reported Trump as saying.
These comments were, as was expected, met with a stern reaction from Pakistan. It suspended bilateral talks and visits with the United States.
According to the Pakistani newspaper The Nation, the country’s Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif informed a Senate committee that the government had to take such a decision as a protest against Trump's comments against the country.
But the situation kept escalating and on New Year's Day, Trump took to Twitter to lash out at Pakistan once again saying, "The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than $33 billion in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies and deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools. They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more."
Washington backed up Trump’s words and suspended $225 million in military aid to Pakistan, according to the First Post.
Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif responded to Trump's tweet in a stern manner saying, “The United States should hold its own people accountable for its failures in Afghanistan.”
“We have already said 'no more' to America, so Trump's 'no more' has no importance. We are ready to give all account for every single penny to America in public,” Asif was quoted as saying by Geo TV.
He further said that the US is frustrated over its defeat in Afghanistan and it should perhaps take the path of dialogue instead of using military might.
The Minister of Defense, Khurram Dastagir, also expressed his opinion saying that Pakistan had extended unprecedented cooperation to the US in defeating al-Qaeda in Afghanistan besides fighting the war against terrorism.
He said that it is the terrorists from Afghanistan who have repeatedly targeted Pakistani armed forces and civilians. Khurram Dastagir made it clear to the US president that Afghanistan's war would not be fought from the soil of Pakistan, Dawn news reported.
In a separate tweet Dastagir said: “Pak as anti-terror ally has given free to US: land & air communication, military bases & intel cooperation that decimated Al-Qaeda over last 16 yrs, but they have given us nothing but invective & mistrust. They overlook cross-border safe havens of terrorists who murder Pakistanis.”
Talking about the military aid claims made by the US president, Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif said, “The claim by Trump regarding the funds, if we account for it, they include reimbursements too for the services rendered by Pakistan.”
He said that Pakistan’s land, roads, rail and, other different kinds of services were used for which the country was reimbursed.
“A proper audit took place for the reimbursements,” the foreign minister said.
If the US carried out further drone strikes in Pakistan’s settled areas, the minister warned that, “The country will defend its sovereignty.”
Pakistani analyst Zahid Hussain said that Trump’s statements come as no surprise. "We have been seeing for a while that Trump's attitude is getting stricter, so this statement is no surprise. Pakistan has other options,” Hussain was reported by Dawn news as saying.
The analyst further said that Pakistan can sustain itself without US aid just as it had done before, during the 1990s, when it faced all sorts of sanctions from the US.
Hussain stressed that the US needs to have a better policy on Afghanistan and should focus on what to do in that country instead of blaming Pakistan.
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201801021060478414-pakistan-leaders-respond-to-trump/
Donald Trump has had a turbulent relationship with Pakistan for years. Right after becoming the US president he spoke to the then Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif calling him a “terrific guy” who was doing an “amazing job.”.
"Please convey to the Pakistani people that they are amazing and all Pakistanis I have known are exceptional people," Trump further added, according to a readout released by the Pakistan government.
Back then Pakistan’s Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said that the Pakistan government looked forward to working with the new US administration. He spoke to US ambassador David Hale and the two sides discussed matters of bilateral interests, particularly trade and economic relations.
That stance changed some six months later when Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited Washington in June. After that trip both India and the US pointed fingers at Pakistan saying that the latter is not doing enough to combat terrorism.
In August Trump revealed his new South Asia strategy further blaming Pakistan for “giving safe haven to agents of chaos, violence, and terror.”
"We can no longer be silent about Pakistan's safe havens for terrorist organizations, the Taliban, and other groups that pose a threat to the region and beyond. Pakistan has much to gain from partnering with our effort in Afghanistan. It has much to lose by continuing to harbor criminals and terrorists," First Post reported Trump as saying.
These comments were, as was expected, met with a stern reaction from Pakistan. It suspended bilateral talks and visits with the United States.
According to the Pakistani newspaper The Nation, the country’s Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif informed a Senate committee that the government had to take such a decision as a protest against Trump's comments against the country.
But the situation kept escalating and on New Year's Day, Trump took to Twitter to lash out at Pakistan once again saying, "The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than $33 billion in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies and deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools. They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more."
Washington backed up Trump’s words and suspended $225 million in military aid to Pakistan, according to the First Post.
Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif responded to Trump's tweet in a stern manner saying, “The United States should hold its own people accountable for its failures in Afghanistan.”
“We have already said 'no more' to America, so Trump's 'no more' has no importance. We are ready to give all account for every single penny to America in public,” Asif was quoted as saying by Geo TV.
He further said that the US is frustrated over its defeat in Afghanistan and it should perhaps take the path of dialogue instead of using military might.
The Minister of Defense, Khurram Dastagir, also expressed his opinion saying that Pakistan had extended unprecedented cooperation to the US in defeating al-Qaeda in Afghanistan besides fighting the war against terrorism.
He said that it is the terrorists from Afghanistan who have repeatedly targeted Pakistani armed forces and civilians. Khurram Dastagir made it clear to the US president that Afghanistan's war would not be fought from the soil of Pakistan, Dawn news reported.
In a separate tweet Dastagir said: “Pak as anti-terror ally has given free to US: land & air communication, military bases & intel cooperation that decimated Al-Qaeda over last 16 yrs, but they have given us nothing but invective & mistrust. They overlook cross-border safe havens of terrorists who murder Pakistanis.”
Talking about the military aid claims made by the US president, Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif said, “The claim by Trump regarding the funds, if we account for it, they include reimbursements too for the services rendered by Pakistan.”
He said that Pakistan’s land, roads, rail and, other different kinds of services were used for which the country was reimbursed.
“A proper audit took place for the reimbursements,” the foreign minister said.
If the US carried out further drone strikes in Pakistan’s settled areas, the minister warned that, “The country will defend its sovereignty.”
Pakistani analyst Zahid Hussain said that Trump’s statements come as no surprise. "We have been seeing for a while that Trump's attitude is getting stricter, so this statement is no surprise. Pakistan has other options,” Hussain was reported by Dawn news as saying.
The analyst further said that Pakistan can sustain itself without US aid just as it had done before, during the 1990s, when it faced all sorts of sanctions from the US.
Hussain stressed that the US needs to have a better policy on Afghanistan and should focus on what to do in that country instead of blaming Pakistan.
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201801021060478414-pakistan-leaders-respond-to-trump/
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& to stand with iran , which is also a constant target of cia s covert wars ? We should let the region cleaned off from that sicknes called CIA & its newly adopted father trump !
If USA can push india politically to preasure us then why not we can support iran , maybe some defence support too ????
We call you thats wht matters for us !lol
Why not super india send its super army to afghanistan to support US troops ????lol
Dar lagta hai kiya ! Pundit jee ?
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