Do You Think Rivalry Between India and Pakistan is For a Valid Reason?

[Bombermanx1]

Not going to happen, Pakistan will not be satisfied even if we give up kashmir, their plan is to dominate india making it into greater pakistan and islamize india that sort, which will never happen.
Nor are we going to give an inch of kashmir or any part of India.What is done is done, there is no going back.
Pakistan is a greedy nation, even if you give up kashmir next they will start demanding Hyderabad,deccan raking up old issues.Then they will claim some other state, the greed is endless.
Unless pakistan stops this greed of usurping India's territory it wont have peace nor will it develop,while India with a strong wall and modernized army and surveillance will live in peace and develop.
As every year passes the gap between both countries increase by 5 years, economically and militarily.Once we modernized our army totally and have the worlds best tech, We will be in a strong position where no country could dare raise these question over our sovereignty.

In the next 10 years we will have a global role,while pakistan will be stuck to handling its terror at home which it breeds unless it gives up the idea of Kashmir.
This is a waiting game,Time ,Economy is on India's side.
An example of USA and Mexico both were enemies,USA and Mexico had the same chances and time to develop, instead Mexico is left behind USA moved ahead, Mexicans go illegally into USA for better life and future, same will happen with Pakistan in future as India Develops they will try to migrate here for Better future,Already they Film people queue up to come to act in India for money,if it wasn't for the IPL ban, Pakistani players would be coming in hordes.
It is the Basic instinct of every human and animal to move towards greener pastures.

Rich nations don't need to go to war because other nations fear them..

 

[Informant]

Not going to happen, Pakistan will not be satisfied even if we give up kashmir, their plan is to dominate india making it into greater pakistan and islamize india that sort, which will never happen.
Nor are we going to give an inch of kashmir or any part of India.What is done is done, there is no going back.
Pakistan is a greedy nation, even if you give up kashmir next they will start demanding Hyderabad,deccan raking up old issues.Then they will claim some other state, the greed is endless.
Unless pakistan stops this greed of usurping India's territory it wont have peace nor will it develop,while India with a strong wall and modernized army and surveillance will live in peace and develop.
As every year passes the gap between both countries increase by 5 years, economically and militarily.Once we modernized our army totally and have the worlds best tech, We will be in a strong position where no country could dare raise these question over our sovereignty.

In the next 10 years we will have a global role,while pakistan will be stuck to handling its terror at home which it breeds unless it gives up the idea of Kashmir.
This is a waiting game,Time ,Economy is on India's side.
Rich nations don't need to go to war because others fear them..

Bhai yeh zyada hogaya, thorda kam kardein.

 

[Bombermanx1]

Bhai yeh zyada hogaya, thorda kam kardein.

Check my edited version it gives the future scenario.

 

[Informant]

Check my edited version it gives the future scenario.

Aur zyada hogaya

 

[ito]

no he is wrong..
how do you see our relation with nepal, bangladesh and sri lanka. Not exactly friendly. right?
even without kashmir both countries will try to dominate south asia. At least we will.

there is a point with you too. my point is that there are larger issues between india and pak than kashmir. as you pointed out competing for dominance in south asia is one of them.

 

[rockstar08]

Nothing will happen unless Kashmir issue is resolved ...

 

[Eagle_Kashmir]

Ladies and Gentlemen of this great forum,this is Acetophenol speaking,and this may sound a little stupid,but I wanna ask you folks a question.

What,in your opinion is the reason for the rivalry between India and Pakistan? And do you think its justified?

Here's my take:

-Hell No.I simply cannot figure out why we ended up being such kind of mortal enemies,dreaming of nuking each other,while our people (the general public) love each other and share so much in common.I wish Ind-Pak relations had kinda something like a reset button,so we can just start over!

Pakistan - India are historical, geopolitical and strategic rivals.

 

[Kaniska]

Ladies and Gentlemen of this great forum,this is Acetophenol speaking,and this may sound a little stupid,but I wanna ask you folks a question.

What,in your opinion is the reason for the rivalry between India and Pakistan? And do you think its justified?

Here's my take:

-Hell No.I simply cannot figure out why we ended up being such kind of mortal enemies,dreaming of nuking each other,while our people (the general public) love each other and share so much in common.I wish Ind-Pak relations had kinda something like a reset button,so we can just start over!

Here is my thought....( Do not judge me based on it)

1- I feel is very polite word that has been used...Enmity is the right word...India and Pakistan rivalry is a manifestation of the frustration of the Hindu people of India of the centuries of rule of the Islamic rulers who ruled India and tormented the Hindu religion and insulted to maximum extent....I think our psyche towards Pakistan is always gets a background as Hindu people in particular feel that we have been humiliated in our own land...

2- To be honest I do not find any issue with modern Pakistan if i do not associate Muslim rulers who destroyed the temples in India and then i associate that these Muslim rulers are worshiped as heros in Pakistan people....So again..it is not the present day pakistan that irritates us rather association of present Pakistan with some one who is seen as a villain in the eyes of Hindu people matters most to us...

3- And most frustrating part, when the separation has happened, if the idiotic Congi party had not made that mistake, the separation should have been complete on the basis of religion...If Gandhi who is worshiped in India, allowed Pakistan to be created based on Islamic religion then why not India based on Hindu religion?...This is one most stupid thing Congress and Gandhi has done and it has done enough damage for Hindu people....

4- India and Pakistan enmity is not simply with these Kashmir issues or any small issues as it is being portrayed..It is historical...If Kashmir people might have Buddhist people in majority then i really doubt, Indian people might have made so much of negative impression as it is being happening now...Hindu people are victimized continuously by Musim rulers...So we can not tolerated to be victimized again..So Kashmir will never gain any favor from Indian gov till the point the religion factor is not completely gone...As long as Kashmir valley keep on saying that love to be separate because they are Isalmist....Indian willl be ready to fight with these Kashmir separatist for another 100 generations to maintain their identity...

5- Last but not the least, I should be thankful to Mr Jinnah that partition has happened...Trust me, India is secular today because Hindus are majority...If Pakistan would not have been separated, then at this point of time Muslim may constitute around 40% of united population...And to gain votes, Parties like Congress could have gone to an extent where they could have implemented sharia law in India itself....So all Indian people should respect more to Jinha for separation and should ask question to Gandhi why he did not feel the same empathy for hindu people to make a complete separation with India for Hindus only where other religion people can treated equally..

In a nutshell, our enmity is not with Pakistan as such...but the it is our frustration and protest against Islamic radicalism that has tortured Hindus since centuries...And we do not want to tolerate any more....That is the reason, it might happen that some section of Muslim population does not feel so much of animosity as it is felt by Hindu people...

It needs some generation to pass by when we will forget our histroy and modern generation will come and may compromise on its thought..

Nothing will happen unless Kashmir issue is resolved ...

Trust me if also Kashmir is resolved..the another reason will crop us...As long as Hindus and Muslim people as such do not start respecting each other in India itself, India and Pakistan relation will not improve...India and Pakistan relation is reflection of the relation between Hindus of India and Muslims of Indian itself..Till the point we respect each other and our histroy..the enemity will be continues from Indian side..I am not sure about Pakistan though..

 

[Echo_419]

Ladies and Gentlemen of this great forum,this is Acetophenol speaking,and this may sound a little stupid,but I wanna ask you folks a question.

What,in your opinion is the reason for the rivalry between India and Pakistan? And do you think its justified?

Here's my take:

-Hell No.I simply cannot figure out why we ended up being such kind of mortal enemies,dreaming of nuking each other,while our people (the general public) love each other and share so much in common.I wish Ind-Pak relations had kinda something like a reset button,so we can just start over!

Control of the Rivers is the most important thing,who knows what will happen if PK managed to get control of those rivers

 

[rockstar08]

Here is my thought....( Do not judge me based on it)

1- I feel is very polite word that has been used...Enmity is the right word...India and Pakistan rivalry is a manifestation of the frustration of the Hindu people of India of the centuries of rule of the Islamic rulers who ruled India and tormented the Hindu religion and insulted to maximum extent....I think our psyche towards Pakistan is always gets a background as Hindu people in particular feel that we have been humiliated in our own land...

2- To be honest I do not find any issue with modern Pakistan if i do not associate Muslim rulers who destroyed the temples in India and then i associate that these Muslim rulers are worshiped as heros in Pakistan people....So again..it is not the present day pakistan that irritates us rather association of present Pakistan with some one who is seen as a villain in the eyes of Hindu people matters most to us...

3- And most frustrating part, when the separation has happened, if the idiotic Congi party had not made that mistake, the separation should have been complete on the basis of religion...If Gandhi who is worshiped in India, allowed Pakistan to be created based on Islamic religion then why not India based on Hindu religion?...This is one most stupid thing Congress and Gandhi has done and it has done enough damage for Hindu people....

4- India and Pakistan enmity is not simply with these Kashmir issues or any small issues as it is being portrayed..It is historical...If Kashmir people might have Buddhist people in majority then i really doubt, Indian people might have made so much of negative impression as it is being happening now...Hindu people are victimized continuously by Musim rulers...So we can not tolerated to be victimized again..So Kashmir will never gain any favor from Indian gov till the point the religion factor is not completely gone...As long as Kashmir valley keep on saying that love to be separate because they are Isalmist....Indian willl be ready to fight with these Kashmir separatist for another 100 generations to maintain their identity...

5- Last but not the least, I should be thankful to Mr Jinnah that partition has happened...Trust me, India is secular today because Hindus are majority...If Pakistan would not have been separated, then at this point of time Muslim may constitute around 40% of united population...And to gain votes, Parties like Congress could have gone to an extent where they could have implemented sharia law in India itself....So all Indian people should respect more to Jinha for separation and should ask question to Gandhi why he did not feel the same empathy for hindu people to make a complete separation with India for Hindus only where other religion people can treated equally..

In a nutshell, our enmity is not with Pakistan as such...but the it is our frustration and protest against Islamic radicalism that has tortured Hindus since centuries...And we do not want to tolerate any more....That is the reason, it might happen that some section of Muslim population does not feel so much of animosity as it is felt by Hindu people...

It needs some generation to pass by when we will forget our histroy and modern generation will come and may compromise on its thought..



Trust me if also Kashmir is resolved..the another reason will crop us...As long as Hindus and Muslim people as such do not start respecting each other in India itself, India and Pakistan relation will not improve...India and Pakistan relation is reflection of the relation between Hindus of India and Muslims of Indian itself..Till the point we respect each other and our histroy..the enemity will be continues from Indian side..I am not sure about Pakistan though..

i agree , one more reason is that as far as we ( ind-pak ) remain enemies , we will stuck in an arms race .. and of course spends billions of $$ in arms , which is good for global arms market ..

 

[W.11]

i don't think so

 

[SarthakGanguly]

First things first - there can not be a J&K in any scenario other than India. It can only be a 'K'.

Jammu and Leh would revolt the very same day they are told they are no longer a part of India.

JnK is an excuse. Not the reason. There was enough hatred even before the Kashmir problem arose. And there will be after (f ever) it is solved.

Secondly the separatist tendency is confined to Srinagar and Sopore (and other pockets) only now. The Village defence committees are made from the local population only. And they are armed. They would have switched sides easily if they wanted to.

Plebiscite or referendum is out of the question. After Shimla Accords that is. Plus that is unconstitutional. More education, more jobs and greater integration is the way to go forward. Fewer people get killed in all of Kashmir in a month as compared to people getting killed in KP in a day for example. Does not mean KP needs to be given independence. That said, I don't wish to have a strong opinion on Pakistan's internal affairs.

Legally the only way Kashmir will go out of India's hands is for India to cease to exist.

What you do in response is your problem. Hate, love..do whatever you wish to. Thanks.

 

[Zarvan]

Ladies and Gentlemen of this great forum,this is Acetophenol speaking,and this may sound a little stupid,but I wanna ask you folks a question.

What,in your opinion is the reason for the rivalry between India and Pakistan? And do you think its justified?

Here's my take:

-Hell No.I simply cannot figure out why we ended up being such kind of mortal enemies,dreaming of nuking each other,while our people (the general public) love each other and share so much in common.I wish Ind-Pak relations had kinda something like a reset button,so we can just start over!

Sorry general public don't love each other 2 % liberal retards in Pakistan love India not every one and majority things are not common and you want peace leave kashmir alone or war will be always an option for me personally only option

 

[Victory]

Sorry general public don't love each other 2 % liberal retards in Pakistan love India not every one and majority things are not common and you want peace leave kashmir alone or war will be always an option for me personally only option

are you wahabbi ? why do you hate us so much ?

 

[arp2041]

Ladies and Gentlemen of this great forum,this is Acetophenol speaking,and this may sound a little stupid,but I wanna ask you folks a question.

What,in your opinion is the reason for the rivalry between India and Pakistan? And do you think its justified?

Here's my take:

-Hell No.I simply cannot figure out why we ended up being such kind of mortal enemies,dreaming of nuking each other,while our people (the general public) love each other and share so much in common.I wish Ind-Pak relations had kinda something like a reset button,so we can just start over!

Hello You Puny Human, this is arp2041............

I also may sound stupid but rivalry b/w Indo & Pak is really stupid.........

Last time we fought a full scale war & world was given a great BURDEN in the shape of Bangladesh.......& this forum was given a separate BD DEFENSE section.............