All these posts you claimed that KSA was never colonized as if it was due to the strength of locals.
But that is far from truth. Even today Western powers can railroad through KSA with no resistance of significant level.
The same would have happened in 1600 AD-1800 AD.
And you have not proven that if European powers had interest in KSA areas, they would have shown up with army, and
as per you, KSA areas would not have been colonized
Any thing to support your claims.
Now you are changing the subject again to a subject that has already been discussed in this very thread. Do you want me to write the same things over and over again for you to understand them? I think that I already provided plenty of arguments and a few sources and links.
Partially it was. Arabians and especially people of Najd were always famous for their military conquests and warrior like culture and bravery. That's pretty well-known in the region. Add to that the harshness of the area, landscapes, climate, isolation. The Western colonial powers were unable to reach the Arabian Peninsula from 1500-1850 and the Portuguese did not succeed in defeating Oman as they dreamt about for instance. There were a lot of reason for that.
You are telling me that the Arabian Peninsula - one of the most strategically important areas of the world and a major crossroad for MILLENNIUMS was not strategically important? Are you joking? Do I need to mention the nearby Suez Chanel, Aden (one of the most important ports of the world back then with the largest natural harbor), the strategic location between Europe, Asia and Africa?
I already told you that the West was far ahead of anybody else in that period and that they could practically have conquered everybody if they wanted/united.
I never said that so don't write that. I said the opposite. But the reality is though that KSA would be too big and too difficult to fully control. Back then. Meaning from 1500-1800/1850.
Today it would be another discussion due to the modern technology. But good luck with controlling a country the size of Western Europe covered with mountain ranges, all kind of deserts, hundreds of valleys, bordered by waters with a largely hostile climate against mobile and highly skilled warrior people whose favorite past time was war, at least in Najd. Look at that map I posted earlier in this debate about territories that have never been conquered by Western people. Look at the other areas. Xinjiang for instance. Same story. Big, big territory with similar landscapes, harsh climate and a people used to wars.
I am not saying that it would be impossible to fully control it but it would no doubt be very difficult. Hence nobody really attempted.
I am sure that the Western world but LOVE to control Makkah and Madinah just like many Islamic empires dreamt about conquering Rome. Don't fool yourself.
Do you even know that the first European who ever visited Najd/Central Arabia happened as recently as 200 years ago if I am not wrong? It was literary unknown territory. Just look at the distances, climate. The locals knew all those lands as their own pocket. Knew the right valleys, hills, mountains, desert areas, oasis, access to local water channels etc.
Like Afghanistan it might get invaded and the cities submitted too but probably not all of Afghanistan or fully.
I am talking about a possible scenario 200 years ago. Not in recent times (last 100 years). Before the time of planes, tanks, automatic weapons etc. Were you fought more on equal terms.
Now sure what I am discussing anyway. I already said if pigs could fly etc. rhetoric. We are discussing ifs while I am sticking to what actually happened. Then you can make your conclusions about those ifs but at the end of the day those are just guesses. As I said IF the Mongols did not attack Baghdad in 1258 the Middle East/Muslim world would be better off and probably not far behind Europe for so long. But can I be sure of that? No.
Anyway I am about to fall asleep.
Yes, the Ottomans controlled Hijaz for about 350 years through the local Hashemite rulers who were allied with the Ottomans and de facto and de jure were a vassal state.
Yes, Europe was far ahead of the ME region from 1500 until 1945. Mostly.
Yes, KSA could have been invaded and become a Western colony from 1850-1945 if the European powers united and tried to submit it. Just like EVERY single country back then.
Yes, the British Empire and the French Empire made the Sykes-Picot and they colonized 90% of the entire world (Europeans) for a few centuries.
Now please read this post carefully before you reply.
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