Do I just represent the ‘honor’ of the men in my family?

[Divergent]

And so, from silence you surmise acceptance? So we should be vocal and call you out as a shameless, immoral libtard to make you understand you are not accepted?

Am I not allowed to wear that in Pakistan? What's wrong with it?

 

[Manama]

Based on the values taught by our religion it is wrong. Pakistan would be a much better place if people could be more religious.



And so, from silence you surmise acceptance? So we should be vocal and call you out as a shameless, immoral libtard to make you understand you are not accepted?

My religion doesn't teach me to be a narrowminded douche who takes away rights and freedom from other people. My religion also doesn't say that jeans is prohibited. Not only that but my religion doesn't ask me to force my religious values or other people. My religion also doesn't teach me to shove religion down the throats of other people which may cause them to hate God himself.

Pakistan doesn't need to be more religious, Pakistan needs to realize that religion is a personal matter between a person and God so others have no right to dictate what other should or should not wear.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

You guys ever notice how Pakistanis girls get over protective about their brothers from girls that like them? Like to the point where they get verbally nasty with them? I find it fascinating.

 

[CriticalThought]

My religion doesn't teach me to be a narrowminded douche who takes away rights and freedom from other people. My religion also doesn't say that jeans is prohibited. Not only that but my religion doesn't ask me to force my religious values or other people. My religion also doesn't teach me to shove religion down the throats of other people which may cause them to hate God himself.

Pakistan doesn't need to be more religious, Pakistan needs to realize that religion is a personal matter between a person and God so others have no right to dictate what other should or should not wear.

What religion do you follow, may I ask?

 

[Manama]

What religion do you follow, may I ask?

Islam

 

[CriticalThought]

Am I not allowed to wear that in Pakistan? What's wrong with it?

You are allowed to do many things in Pakistan because of an ineffective government. It doesn't mean people accept it. For example, politicians loot the country if it's wealth and there are no protests by common people. Do you think people accept it?

Islam

Does it hit you that you are clueless about Islam?

 

[Manama]

You are allowed to do many things in Pakistan because of an ineffective government. It doesn't mean people accept it. For example, politicians loot the country if it's wealth and there are no protests by common people. Do you think people accept it?


Does it hit you that you are clueless about Islam?

How am I clueless about Islam? Looking at this discussion you are the one who looks more ignorant.

 

[Divergent]

You guys ever notice how Pakistanis girls get over protective about their brothers from girls that like them? Like to the point where they get verbally nasty with them? I find it fascinating.

I find it hilarious

Are girls allowed to wear Western outfits in Pakistan?

 

[lastofthepatriots]

I find it hilarious

Are girls allowed to wear Western outfits in Pakistan?

They can but most of them get laughed at.

 

[Divergent]

They can but most of them get laughed at.

No they don't actually I have family and relatives there, it's normal and depends on the area you're in. Lahore and Islamabad are very advanced.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

No they don't actually I have family and relatives there, it's normal and depends on the area you're in. Lahore and Islamabad are very advanced.

I can't help but laugh every time I see a girl wearing jeans in Pakistan. Especially in that heat.

 

[Musafir117]

You are allowed to do many things in Pakistan because of an ineffective government. It doesn't mean people accept it. For example, politicians loot the country if it's wealth and there are no protests by common people. Do you think people accept it?


Does it hit you that you are clueless about Islam?

Answers his queries rather than put a label on him/her, the case is more likely the victim in our society fed up by mullaism and when we have fraud ulma siting on top to draw lines on sharia or haddod ordinance to misguide youths.

My religion doesn't teach me to be a narrowminded douche who takes away rights and freedom from other people. My religion also doesn't say that jeans is prohibited. Not only that but my religion doesn't ask me to force my religious values or other people. My religion also doesn't teach me to shove religion down the throats of other people which may cause them to hate God himself.

Pakistan doesn't need to be more religious, Pakistan needs to realize that religion is a personal matter between a person and God so others have no right to dictate what other should or should not wear.

Islam is a very balanced religion if you want to make hard it It gonna be so or if you take it on easy ways it's very easy and simple. About dress code if tight jeans disliked in a religious society better not wear it as Islam teach us to protect our bodies with wear lossy dresses so a devil type mentality don't rape you even by eyes and it's not only for female the Male also need to be wear lossy werars like Arabs wear Jubas. Here I'm agree with you that Islam in Pakistan ( society) worst hypocrites to only target female about wears.
Islam and its teachings are so beautiful try to learn it by yourself if you don't have any honest scholar or molvi around you.
Tolerance is the key and my advice is please tolerate with other views with manner but keep your dignity as well.
May Allah guide us all Ameen.

I can't help but laugh every time I see a girl wearing jeans in Pakistan. Especially in that heat.

Pah Ji sorry to disagree but what jean relate with heat or cold weather?

 

[RealNapster]

I was in Pakstan and I wore leggings, t-shirts, dresses lol - no one said anything to me. Depends on area too I suppose

Exactly.

 

[abdulbarijan]

-Do women just represent the "honor" of the men in the family? Nope. Children (irrespective of gender) are taken as representatives of their family in different facets of life, atleast in Pakistan. I've seen kids, I repeat KIDS who look like they study in 1st, 2nd grade, dish out curses that I've never heard before. At that very moment you can almost make the assumptions about the family of the kid, the socio-economic situation of the family and the kind of environment he or she is living in.

-Similarly, if you think the whole "honor" thing only applies to women, you should sit in at a few marriage proposals/negotiations, where a whole investigation is done on the guy too, where if he was seen with female friends in university, it'll be looked as strike 1 for that guy. If you think this whole representation doesn't work both ways, I'll tell you a personal story. I was asked by a female relative if "I was a girl" because I spent too much time at home studying. Ironically, the same female relative once came to visit one day and I was out for about 45 minutes and I had to hear a tirade about " Ab to har waqat hi ghar se bahir rehtai ho, kia chakkar hai?". So let's not pretend that the effects of a collectivist culture and the repercussions that follow, extend only to one gender.

 

[Divergent]

I'm still baffled at women can't wear 'western clothes' in Pakistan. Yes she can and that doesn't make her a 'libtard'. To say 'Western clothes aren't part of the culture' is completely different to 'can't wear them'.