Did the CCP instigated the Anti-China riots in VietNam?

[Carlosa]

Actually, no Vietnamese has revealed this secret. It was a Taiwanese who first revealed it to the public:

Taiwan People Now On Full Alert – Beware Chinese Communist Party Invasion - New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD TV)



According to this book, CCP agents paid agitators to start those violent riots against Taiwanese companies. Alot of those rioters are not even locals but people from outside the industrial area. The plan was against both VietNam and Taiwan.

Not only did the CCP wanted to harm the Viet economy and destroy it's foreign investors confidence, they also wanted to destroy the Viet-Taiwan ties. This way, these violent riots will scare the Taiwanese away from VietNam to form an alliance with the CCP.

These are the words of the Taiwanese author, not the Vietnamese. If you have problem, then you are welcomed to give the author a call and complain to him.

I remember from the time of the riots that Vietnamese customs checked a shipment from China to Vietnam that included a pallet with weapons to be used for the riots (I saw the pictures of it). Nobody ships weapons from China without the government knowing it.

 

[dichoi]

Viet Tan is funded secretly by CPC.

 

[William Hung]

You may have missed some points, CCP just also paid the "agents" to destroy Korean and Japanese factories and harm your ties.LOL. Why not?if any.

So true! why not? it sure make more sense than to think that the Viet govt have encouraged their own population to burn their own infrastructure and damage their economy.

Although your hostile attitude means nothing to China,i can not see your competitiveness in analysis and thinking

Look at the post of your PRC compatriot that I've quoted in the OP. He thinks that the Viet prime minister have sent phone messages to the Viet population to encourage the riots!! so analytic.

So according to some of your compatriots, it was impossible for the CCP to send agents to instigate riots to damage the Viet economy and reputation. But it was entirely possible for the Viet govt to instigate riots to destroy their own economy and reputation?

My suggestion is use reputable and famous news sources to prevent you from humiliating yourself.

Hehe when I use famous source like the Telegraph, your PRC compatriot said those sources are anti-China and can not be trusted. When I use a reputable academic book as my source, one PRC guy said that it is a sign of weakness to quote other people. It is people like you who are self-humilating here.

BTW, popularity does not equal truth. You should know that.

To face the reality seems too hard to the Viets,but that's exactly what we Chinese have done over the past decades.

The book I've mentioned, which explained all of this, was written by a Han Chinese, not a VietNamese.

My link clearly mentioned the name of the book and author, so you are welcomed to find and buy a copy.

I remember from the time of the riots that Vietnamese customs checked a shipment from China to Vietnam that included a pallet with weapons to be used for the riots (I saw the pictures of it). Nobody ships weapons from China without the government knowing it.

Thanks, interesting. This further support the explanation of that Taiwanese author.

Viet Tan is funded secretly by CPC.

I thought that group is from the US? but I guess when offered enough money, they might all work together for the same interest... to destroy Vietnam's reputation.

Viet tan would want to destroy VCP reputation. The Taiwanese author said the CCP also wanted to destroy VCP reputation in order to draw Taiwan closer to make an alliance with the CCP.

 

[AgentOrange]

I made this post as part of a conversation about the 2014 Vietnamese anti-china riots in another thread but it got deleted/censored. I guess it was off-topic? so I'll start a new thread and post it here:



Stop pretending to be naive. The CCP played a dirty trick against VietNam. The CCP had sent some agents to pay agitators to start some of those riots, especially those violent riots against Taiwanese companies. They want to target both VietNam and Taiwan.

There were some anti-VCP agents from abroad (Vietnamese from US) involved in those riots, but there were also agents sent from the CCP. The CCP wants to start violent riots to damage the VietNamese economy and destroy foreign investors confidence. They also wanted to break the VietNam-Taiwan ties.

Back then, the VCP was silly for still having some faith in the CCP "friendship" and didn't expect the CCP to play that kind of dirty trick. The VCP got caught off guard and the riots got out of control for a while. Some economic damage was done to VietNam and some innocent people die.

But thanks to that dirty game played by the CCP, the VCP has now realised that the CCP can never be trusted anymore. That is why last month, the VCP finally decided to join into a lawfare alliance with the Philippines-US. The CCP then had to send an official down to VN to speak some nice words to the VCP, even the CCP mouth piece media had to publish plenty of flowery articles about VietNam-China partnership and how it must go back to the correct path again.

But it's too late, that dirty game played by the CCP has already done its damage. The CCP dirty game got back-fired. Instead of breaking the VietNam-Taiwan ties, the VietNam-China ties is now broken. From now on, anything nice they say to each other will only be in pretense.

You're back! How was your moderator mandated vacation from PDF?

 

[IPen]

So true! why not? it sure make more sense than to think that the Viet govt have encouraged their own population to burn their own infrastructure and damage their economy

Your government just encouraged anti-China sentiments, and obviously things went out of control.Whatever, what you have had by far are just suspicions, why not find and send some proofs to CNN,BBC, BREAKING NEWS!!!
It is very pathetic for your incivilization, not too many ethnic nowadays can turn protests into looting,killing and burning companies irrespective of which nation they belong to. But what is more pathetic is that you are too good at finding excuses instead of self-examination.

Hehe when I use famous source like the Telegraph, your PRC compatriot said those sources are anti-China and can not be trusted. When I use a reputable academic book as my source, one PRC guy said that it is a sign of weakness to quote other people. It is people like you who are self-humilating here.

Speak more, and u show your logical ability more.lol
Everyone should follow common sense rather than what certain people had said.In this case some certain Chinese's attitude towards some big news press doesn't mean a street-side newspaper is a better choice which also won't be refered to by any professional analyst.In fact, It's easy to judge the level of New Tang Dynasty alike by reading what they have said in the past years and comparing to the reality, but maybe not that easy to you.

 

[opruh]

Rioting is a popular sport in Vietnam.

 

[William Hung]

Your government just encouraged anti-China sentiments, and obviously things went out of control.Whatever, what you have had by far are just suspicions, why not find and send some proofs to CNN,BBC, BREAKING NEWS!!!
It is very pathetic for your incivilization, not too many ethnic nowadays can turn protests into looting,killing and burning companies irrespective of which nation they belong to. But what is more pathetic is that you are too good at finding excuses instead of self-examination.

woahhh are you mad?

In your angry rant, you have completely missed the fact that the source that I've linked is a han Chinese author, not a VietNamese. This alone defeats your angry rant.

Speak more, and u show your logical ability more.lol
Everyone should follow common sense rather than what certain people had said.In this case some certain Chinese's attitude towards some big news press doesn't mean a street-side newspaper is a better choice which also won't be refered to by any professional analyst.In fact, It's easy to judge the level of New Tang Dynasty alike by reading what they have said in the past years and comparing to the reality, but maybe not that easy to you.

I've mentioned the name of the author and book. I've also summarised the main points that the author have made in that book, which sounds quite plausible. Even some Viet members here have given some inputs that seems to corroborate with some of the main points of that Taiwanese author.

Throughout all your previous rambling and rants, you have provided nothing but personal insults. It is you who need to show your "logical ability" more.

 

[IPen]

woahhh are you mad?

In your angry rant, you have completely missed the fact that the source that I've linked is a han Chinese author, not a VietNamese. This alone defeats your angry rant.




I've mentioned the name of the author and book. I've also summarised the main points that the author have made in that book, which sounds quite plausible. Even some Viet members here have given some inputs that seems to corroborate with some of the main points of that Taiwanese author.

Throughout all your previous rambling and rants, you have provided nothing but personal insults. It is you who need to show your "logical ability" more.

Come on.There are about 1.5b Han Chinese who can all be an "author".
And i was not so-called "ranting",i just said some facts , may be too real to offend u.
Sick of ur bullshit, just waste of time.
Give your logical posts to persuade readers on here.

 

[AgentOrange]

I remember from the time of the riots that Vietnamese customs checked a shipment from China to Vietnam that included a pallet with weapons to be used for the riots (I saw the pictures of it). Nobody ships weapons from China without the government knowing it.

Got any proof? Anyone can claim anything on the internet. And allegations like the one you made need verification.

Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

And that means the Viet government was complicit in the riots and encouraged rioters to burn down Chines factories, not knowing that the native Vietnamese population is so completely imbecilic that they'd target Taiwanese, Singaporean, and even German factories instead. Embarrassed at the idiocy of their own people, the Viet government concocts an elaborate story based on a mound of ASSumption where China is actually the culprit.

That's my story. And it's more believable than yours. Because it's true.

 

[magic-007]

every provocation has usually stirred up by a vietnamese, @Black Flag buddy ,what for ?

the ccp instigated vietnamese did anti-china? what a funny ! go and lie to kids .

 

[cirr]

The IQs of our Vietnamese brothers have gone from bad to worse。

 

[William Hung]

Got any proof? Anyone can claim anything on the internet. And allegations like the one you made need verification.

I just don't think there are any point in providing sources or links anymore. Everything can be covieniently dissmissed with all kind of excuses by some members here. If I provide source from a han Chinese, PRC members will demand for more "popular" sources. In other times when I provide popular source like the Telegraph, it will be dissmissed by PRC members as western anti-China nonsense that cannot be trusted. Once I've provided a reputable academic source and another PRC guy said it was a weakness to quote and rely on someone else lol. So funny here.

Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

And that means the Viet government was complicit in the riots and encouraged rioters to burn down Chines factories, not knowing that the native Vietnamese population is so completely imbecilic that they'd target Taiwanese, Singaporean, and even German factories instead. Embarrassed at the idiocy of their own people, the Viet government concocts an elaborate story based on a mound of ASSumption where China is actually the culprit.

That's my story. And it's more believable than yours. Because it's true.

Your explanation in the above post is invalid. Simply due to the fact that the explanation I've used came from a Han Chinese from Taiwan and not from the Viet govt.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

You can maybe label us as the greatest troll, since one oil rig has driven your entire nation apeshit crazy.

 

[AgentOrange]

I just don't think there are any point in providing sources or links anymore. Everything can be covieniently dissmissed with all kind of excuses by some members here. If I provide source from a han Chinese, PRC members will demand for more "popular" sources. In other times when I provide popular source like the Telegraph, it will be dissmissed by PRC members as western anti-China nonsense that cannot be trusted. Once I've provided a reputable academic source and another PRC guy said it was a weakness to quote and rely on someone else lol. So funny here.




Your explanation in the above post is invalid. Simply due to the fact that the explanation I've used came from a Han Chinese from Taiwan and not from the Viet govt.

Of course. No need to provide links or sources anymore. Especially when people start calling Carlosa out on his bullshit and demand hard evidence that China was supplying weapons to Viet rioters for the purpose of burning down foreign factories. But yeah, now's the time that proof isn't needed because why bother when people won't believe you anyways. How convenient.

Yeah, we'll just take your word for it.

You can maybe label us as the greatest troll, since one oil rig has driven your entire nation apeshit crazy.

You're right. One measly oil rig is all it takes for Vietnam to burn itself down.

 

[xunzi]

Actually, no Vietnamese has revealed this secret. It was a Taiwanese who first revealed it to the public:

Taiwan People Now On Full Alert – Beware Chinese Communist Party Invasion - New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD TV)

AT this point, I don't even want to take you little Vietnamese serious anymore. You guys are a joker that don't deserve our attention and response. LOL