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Go through the entire thread, and many other such threads. If in anyway, the members on the forum represent a microcosm of today's Pakistani mindset, please tell me that the statement you made is the truth and in noway reflects what the majority of members here portray.

Whatever history one wants to selectively embrace while disowning other parts, its your call. But one thing is certain, there is no such thing as 'Ancient Pakistani'. Period. Please to be continue your inane arguments.

Who are you to say that there is no such thing as Ancient Pakistani, the geo-graphic are that is Pakistan is separate for the Ganges and has been around for millennia. We are proud of our history, which no indian has any claim over, end of.....lol :bunny::bunny:
 
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Ancient Pakistani? Ok every single Indians ancestors except Mongoloids(Manipuris,Assamese,Gorkhas,etc unless they are mixed) have "ancient Pakistani" roots. We all pretty much came through that rout of the kybar pass and through the area of Pakistan to get to the parts of modern India.

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Pakicetid
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Pakicetids
Fossil range: Early Eocene–Middle Eocene
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Pakicetus.
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Cetacea
Family: Pakicetidae
Genera
Pakicetus
Nalacetus
Ichthyolestes
Wikispecies has information related to: Pakicetidae
Pakicetids or Pakicetidae are a carnivorous mammal family of the suborder Archaeoceti which lived during the Early Eocene to Middle Eocene (55.8 mya—40.4 mya) in Pakistan and existed for approximately 15.4 million years.[1]
As Cetacea, Pakicetidae precede the whales and dolphins in transition from land. Because their fossils were found near bodies of water, they are presumed to have spent part of their life in water.
Pakicetus was the first discovered in 1983 by Philip Gingerich, Neil Wells, Donald Russell, and S. M. Ibrahim Shah, and all species are known only from a few sites in Pakistan, hence the name of the first genera and the family as a whole. The region is believed to have been coastal to the Tethys Sea when the pakicetids lived, some 53 million years ago.
The pakicetids are presumed to be ancestors of modern whales because of the three following features unique to whales: peculiarities in the positioning of the ear bones within the skull, the folding in a bone of the middle ear, and the arrangement of cusps on the molar teeth. The current theory is that modern whales evolved from archaic whales such as basilosaurids, which in turn evolved from something like the amphibious ambulocetids, which themselves evolved from something like the land-dwelling pakicetus
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So the scientific community even for creatures millions of years old excepts Pakistan as a separate territory. :p
 
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I don't understand this... While all Indians are ok considering the Pakistan was part of India... why are the Pakistanis hell bent upon vehemently claiming that they are not? Is it that humiliating for you guys to associate with India?

The whole thread was a good read though... history refresher course!
 
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Moral of the story:

There exist two kinds of Pakistanis

1.Who believe Pakistan was born when Mohhamed Bin Qasim (from Arabia) invaded and civilized the barbaric masses

2.Who claim that ancient India was actually Pakistan, and hence all Indian heritage is Pakistani

There is however a third confused type (this state of mind is temporary) which tries to claim both 1 and 2, but fails utterly in the process (and mentally reverts back to either 1 or 2).
 
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Pakicetids or Pakicetidae are a carnivorous mammal family of the suborder Archaeoceti which lived during the Early Eocene to Middle Eocene (55.8 mya—40.4 mya) in Pakistan and existed for approximately 15.4 million years.[1]
As Cetacea, Pakicetidae precede the whales and dolphins in transition from land. Because their fossils were found near bodies of water, they are presumed to have spent part of their life in water.
Pakicetus was the first discovered in 1983 by Philip Gingerich, Neil Wells, Donald Russell, and S. M. Ibrahim Shah, and all species are known only from a few sites in Pakistan, hence the name of the first genera and the family as a whole. The region is believed to have been coastal to the Tethys Sea when the pakicetids lived, some 53 million years ago.
The pakicetids are presumed to be ancestors of modern whales because of the three following features unique to whales: peculiarities in the positioning of the ear bones within the skull, the folding in a bone of the middle ear, and the arrangement of cusps on the molar teeth. The current theory is that modern whales evolved from archaic whales such as basilosaurids, which in turn evolved from something like the amphibious ambulocetids, which themselves evolved from something like the land-dwelling pakicetids.
 
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Who are you to say that there is no such thing as Ancient Pakistani, the geo-graphic are that is Pakistan is separate for the Ganges and has been around for millennia. We are proud of our history, which no indian has any claim over, end of.....lol :bunny::bunny:

See dear... associating your history with India does not take away the credit of being associated with the the Indus valley heritage. This is nothing to be ashamed about or being political about. I know it is hard to digest... but maybe you can ponder over a good cup of coffee.
 
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I don't understand this... While all Indians are ok considering the Pakistan was part of India... why are the Pakistanis hell bent upon vehemently claiming that they are not? Is it that humiliating for you guys to associate with India?

The whole thread was a good read though... history refresher course!


how can pakistan be a part of india if it never existed according to you?

how can india be a part of a country that was given its name and power by the mughals then british?



we are not letting tamils, dravidans and such ilk as somehow being the descendants of the IVC, its plain common sense


Moral of the story:

There exist two kinds of Pakistanis

1.Who believe Pakistan was born when Mohhamed Bin Qasim (from Arabia) invaded and civilized the barbaric masses

2.Who claim that ancient India was actually Pakistan, and hence all Indian heritage is Pakistani

There is however a third confused type (this state of mind is temporary however) which tries to claim both 1 and 2, but fails utterly in the process (and mentally reverts back to either 1 or 2).

and there exists one type of indian, the type who likes to stereotype about pakistani's.
 
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There is no confusion in Pakistan, I've known many soldiers/intel people who are Rajput or Jatt or Sehgal or Gujjar who are proud as can be of Pakistan's Islamic history and are highly nationalistic against india.
 
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r3alist said:
we are not letting tamils, dravidans and such ilk as somehow being the descendants of the IVC, its plain common sense

:rofl:

You just made a fool of yourself

The Indus Valley civilization is considered proto-Dravidian linguistically
 
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How is this related to your argument btw?
It clearly mentions in the article that it was discovered in 1983 and the guys decided to name it after modern day Pakistan... although to some the name may sound offensive.

Because the creature lived millions of years ago, but because it belonged to the geo-graphic are of Pakistan, it has been given that name, by science - that is millions of years before human beings. And what we and my brothers and sisters have been arguing about.....:pakistan:
 
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So turns out that Dravidians are actually the descendants of the IVC, and you guys are the people who came riding on camels from Saudi Arabia (Arbaic descent remember ? :rofl: )
 
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Sniper Xr : Thanks Mate. Your post were some of the best i have read in this forum so far.
 
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