Diaoyu Islands News and Updates

[Viet]

The Japanese ship is a warship, a destroyer that is much bigger than the Chinese frigate. And they are unusually near to each other as far as warship goes in open international water.
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We were also not told about the two ships speed and vector and what they are doing. Well, I think it take two to tango.

I am not quite sure if you understand the implication of the radar action of the Chinese frigate? Anyone can imagine what happened on the Japanese destroyer Yuudachi in this minute when they felt the threat.

One mistake from either side, and the situation would get out of control.

 

[JSCh]

I am not quite sure if you understand the implication of the radar action of the Chinese frigate? Anyone can imagine what happened on the Japanese destroyer Yuudachi in this minute when they felt the threat.

One mistake from either side, and the situation would get out of control.

They would not get so close if they think the Chinese is going to shoot at them. Modern warship do not fight at that kind of range.
I think it is because they know that the Chinese would not shoot at them, that is why they dare to get so close.

 

[djsjs]

I am not quite sure if you understand the implication of the radar action of the Chinese frigate? Anyone can imagine what happened on the Japanese destroyer Yuudachi in this minute when they felt the threat.

One mistake from either side, and the situation would get out of control.

the japanese news didn't tell us some of the most important information. they want to cover the facts.
where did it happen? high seas or controversial waters？
what is the task of both ships?
why did they meet each other?
why Chinese ship was incensed?

 

[Viet]

the japanese news didn't tell us some of the most important information. they want to cover the facts.
where did it happen? high seas or controversial waters？

in the international waters of East China Sea near the disputed islands

what is the task of both ships? why did they meet each other?

Well, they are supposed to do regular patrolling the sea and the islands, where both sides claim theirs.

why Chinese ship was incensed?

no info from Chinese side, do you know any?

 

[northeast]

NOT in official news but heard that from a soldier in PLA Navy.
but I think it is true, base on following reasons:

1- Japan / US Navy all have more advanced equipment (inc. radars) and warships

2- they all review PLA Navy as some kind of "threat" since long ago

3- In this case, Japan warship was 3000m away from PLA ship in international water, their reason to be so close was definitely not for "friendship"... they know that because they also using radar... and tracing, for provocation

4- Japanese fighter jets set to fire warning shots at Chinese surveillance planes. « End Time Times - see what Japan did before

I dont believe japan has the guts to lock on our ship.stop your BS fairytale.

 

[anon45]

NOT in official news but heard that from a soldier in PLA Navy.
but I think it is true, base on following reasons:

1- Japan / US Navy all have more advanced equipment (inc. radars) and warships

2- they all review PLA Navy as some kind of "threat" since long ago

3- In this case, Japan warship was 3000m away from PLA ship in international water, their reason to be so close was definitely not for "friendship"... they know that because they also using radar... and tracing, for provocation

4- Japanese fighter jets set to fire warning shots at Chinese surveillance planes. « End Time Times - see what Japan did before

There are different modes for tracking radar on navy ships, the soldier you speak of was likely referring to a less provocative mode then is the issue here, because if he wasn't I guarantee you it would have become a major international incident, and you would have more sources than just word of mouth.

What the Chinese ship allegedly did was actually have its missile(s) locked on target and prepared for firing.

That isn't done in peacetime and outside of exercises. The response time the Japanese would have should it be fired, is seconds at that distance, and if the Japanese felt threatened and fired first... well just be glad the Japanese Sailors believed it was a bluff.

Regardless it raises the chance of 'accidents' happening by quite a bit.

Its akin to pointing a gun at a person, even without intent to fire.

 

[Audio]

A top US navy intelligence officer has echoed warnings of the threat from China, saying the country had become a bully on the high seas, with ambitions to sink American warships and seize control of waters from its neighbours.

Captain Fanell said China's ''harassments'' on the high seas had expanded over time.
''In my opinion, China is knowingly, operationally and incrementally seizing maritime rights of its neighbours under the rubric of a maritime history that is not only contested in the international community but has largely been fabricated by Chinese government propaganda bureaus in order to 'educate' the populous about China's rich maritime history, clearly as a tool to sustain the Party's control.''

US Intel Officer Warns On China Bully | China V Japan

 

[indian_foxhound]

Japan urges restraint by China after radar lock-on - Indian Express



Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe urged China on
Wednesday not to stoke tension over disputed
East China Sea isles, a day after Japan said a Chinese
vessel directed radar normally used to aim
weapons at a target at a Japanese navy ship. A Chinese government spokeswoman said she
was not aware of the details of the incident, and
focused instead on China’s stance that Japan
should stop sending its ships into what China
considers its territorial waters around the islands. “The incident is a dangerous conduct that could
have led to an unforeseeable situation. It is
extremely regrettable that China carried out such a
one-sided, provocative act when signs are
emerging for dialogue,” Abe told parliament. “I ask
the Chinese side to return to the spirit of mutually beneficial, strategic relations and prevent the
recurrence of an incident like this. I strongly ask
them for restraints so that the situation will not
escalate further,” Abe said. Fire control radar is used to pinpoint the location of
a target for missiles or shells. Directing the radar at
a target can be considered a step away from actual
firing. The radar incident, which Japan said took place in
the East China Sea on January 30, came days after
Chinese Communist Party chief Xi Jinping told Abe’s
envoy that he was committed to developing
bilateral ties. “I have seen the reports but I don’t
understand the details of the situation,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said. “In recent days, Japan has on many occasions
deployed aircraft and ships and illegally entered
Chinese waters around the Diaoyu Islands. China
has made representations on many occasions and
requested Japan stop its illegal activities,” she said Relations between Asia’s two biggest economies
deteriorated sharply when the Japanese
government bought the islets, called the Senkaku
in Japan and the Diaoyu in China, from a private
Japanese owner, in September, igniting protests
across China.

 

[Soryu]

Nope, the Japanese called a Chinese frigate targeting their naval vessel. A destroyer is larger and mightier than a frigate, as far as I know.
in military exercises US/JAPAN, not compareable to what you did.

Well, I reply for your words with that pic, I mean those ship are destroyer in JMSDF "term",

NOT in official news but heard that from a soldier in PLA Navy.
but I think it is true, base on following reasons:

1- Japan / US Navy all have more advanced equipment (inc. radars) and warships

2- they all review PLA Navy as some kind of "threat" since long ago

3- In this case, Japan warship was 3000m away from PLA ship in international water, their reason to be so close was definitely not for "friendship"... they know that because they also using radar... and tracing, for provocation

4- Japanese fighter jets set to fire warning shots at Chinese surveillance planes. « End Time Times - see what Japan did before

So you got no proof and condemnthe others just because you think so!? How poor you are...

The Japanese ship is a warship, a destroyer that is much bigger than the Chinese frigate. And they are unusually near to each other as far as warship goes in open international water.

I just wonder why the news report do not go right out and state that fact, instead they use word like "maritime escort ship" or "Japanese vessel". An unsuspecting reader might get the impression that the Japanese ship is a similar or smaller size civilian vessel.

Is it because for propaganda purposes, the Japanese is to be painted like a "victim"? Because it would be harder to make people believe that the smaller Chinese warship is "threatening" the much bigger Japanese warship?

The mentioning of firing missile is also strange, because you cannot fire ship to ship missile at that close range. But of course the ordinary reader without military knowledge would not know that. They would just believe what they are being fed by the media.

We were also not told about the two ships speed and vector and what they are doing. Well, I think it take two to tango.

1. Those ship are different in size but get same kind of equipments, so what's with the case!? LOL

2. JSDF said that, and news followed it. what did you want to refer it!? The Bigger was bully, for sure!?

3. So you saying that China was very bad on "propaganda"!? Did you know how many money China spend for "propaganda purposes"!?
Did you know what actions China fishmen do to US ship and JCG ship!?

4. Man, What did you want to set up the scene with "missile range"!? ARE YOU SAYING THAT CHINA AND JAPAN WERE IN WAR OR SOMETHING!?

They would not get so close if they think the Chinese is going to shoot at them. Modern warship do not fight at that kind of range.
I think it is because they know that the Chinese would not shoot at them, that is why they dare to get so close.

Again, boy, you just read and saw too much fictions and movies.
If you want proven China is innocent, so you should show up anything value, not twist around with your "smart theories"!

It's maybe an incident, but not for twice.
What's purposes of China do that move still unclear, but something show up here: some Chinese crying so much to get the title "victim" again.

China's government and media just spokes so loud in many time, but this time, "victim" shut up and stop crying.
So someone in PDF must crying for them.

 

[Princess]

babababa...

don't wanna say too much (since your mind is full of hostility to china)

here comes latest proof in official news

translate yourself if you care / and I understand evidences are not important for a hater

 

[Soryu]

don't wanna say too much (since your mind is full of hostility to china)
here comes latest proof in official news.
translate yourself if you care / and I understand evidences are not important for a hater

by the way, I remember smart god-like american army dumped 80000000L agent orange (inc. 336KG Dioxin) in vietnam, now you two are best friends... how poor you are...

Again, all by your mouth.
Can you show me anything I said that China is wrong or something!? Show me if I wrong, cry louder
Did you show up any news when you split your mouth at first!? Your words and no proof, right!?

Friend or not friend, nothing with your stupid (Do you understand what's I saying!? )

 

[Princess]

Its akin to pointing a gun at a person, even without intent to fire.

both you and me don't know what was happened there
I don't think the warship itself can "fire at will" or "attack japan warship" without a order
and china is not holding the diploma of "surprise military strike" (guess which country holding that ?)
very likely the radar operator want to warn the bigger japan warship - "stop tracing"

nobody want a war,
especially if you are currently live well

'accidents' could happen after many provocative actions by both sides
we cannot predict - that's why the situation looks so dangerous

 

[Princess]

Friend or not friend, nothing with your stupid (Do you understand what's I saying!? )

because you can not read the news article in Chinese
and because of your attitude I don't like to translate for you
so you assume everything is " all by your mouth " ?

anyway, doesn't matter what you believe

guess you are very good at Japanese reading / listening
and those Japanese news are 200% true / "not all by their mouth"...

that is so called :

 

[Vitchilo]

see what Japan did before

You do know that Japs in the 30s-40s and the Japs today are two totally different people don't you??

 

[revu]

because you can not read the news article in Chinese
and because of your attitude I don't like to translate for you
so you assume everything is " all by your mouth " ?

anyway, doesn't matter what you believe

guess you are very good at Japanese reading / listening
and those Japanese news are 200% true / "not all by their mouth"...

that is so called :

if what written in that article are true, than the japanese already play victim, despite the oh so great navy they had. That article show the maturity of the Chinese Navy/government.