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Not a big deal。

These are international waters, the PLAN will continue to train and exercise in those international waters the way the USN have for years。
So the Japanese might as well get used to the reality。

Judging by their showings in the face of CMS and CFA ships conducting constant patrols around the Islands,the Japs sure will sooner or later。:azn:

Not a big deal?
You sent patrol plan over Japanese air space.
 
Not a big deal?
You sent patrol plan over Japanese air space.

Japanese air space? Said by who? The Japs? Or you Viets? Even the US, who is Japan's only ally, does not recognize Japan's sovenreigty over the Islands. The US merely transfered the administration right to Japan in 1970s when both Mainland China and Taiwan protested strongly.

In case you don't konw, Okinawa(Liu Qiu in Chinese) is also NOT a part of Japan proper. The US again handed over only administration rights of the groups of islands to Japan in 1970s, which fact is why Japan must seek permission from the US if it wants to deploy warships near Okinawa waters.

Okinawa will be an independent country in due time. That's one of the reasons why the Japs are so scared of “losing” Diaoyu Islands。In the minds of the Japs,losing diaoyu Islands sets a “bad” precedent for things to come。

China should send one of these:

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to Diaoyu Islands next time round。
 
(Reuters) - China's Foreign Ministry said on Thursday that Japan should halt entries into seas and airspace near disputed islets in the East China Sea, after Japan protested a flight over the islands by a Chinese plane.

The Chinese plane's flight, which prompted Japan's military to scramble eight F-15 fighter jets, was "completely normal" Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said during a regular news briefing.

Sino-Japanese relations have been strained since Japan bought the tiny islands, called Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China, from a private Japanese owner in September.

China calls on Japan to halt entries into disputed waters | Reuters
 
And the US pressures Japan every time Japan tries to do something about it.

US should withdraw from the region and let Asian countries and its people deal withits own issues. Even if S Korea is willing to pay much more than the cost of deploying troops there, US should still withdraw from the region as US arm forces are not mercenaries.


The US should not deal with problems that Asians ought deal by themselves.
 
US should withdraw from the region and let Asian countries and its people deal withits own issues. Even if S Korea is willing to pay much more than the cost of deploying troops there, US should still withdraw from the region as US arm forces are not mercenaries.

The US should not deal with problems that Asians ought deal by themselves.

US just maintain a present there, does not mean we will interference with Asian problem, we have said many many time, Asian dispute is Asian problem, we took a neutral clause in this dispute, as long as the dispute are resolve peacefully, we have nothing for or against it.

I don't think it is up to the US to drop all the ties with Asia. Asian country need our present there, not the otherway around. If we left now, there will be a vacumn of defence capability on several country, Japan, Taiwan, Philippine and even Australia will be wide open to be attacked.
 
US should withdraw from the region and let Asian countries and its people deal withits own issues. Even if S Korea is willing to pay much more than the cost of deploying troops there, US should still withdraw from the region as US arm forces are not mercenaries.

The US should not deal with problems that Asians ought deal by themselves.
Why would Korean government want the US troops gone? US troops in Korea are under the command of the Korean Joint Chief of Staff in war time. Korea is a rare case where the entire US force deployment is under a foreign general's command.
 
Lawmakers: Japan's Abe would try to keep China ties calm


(Reuters) - Despite tough talk on the campaign trail, former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe will try to avoid a serious clash with China if his Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) wins Sunday's general election, as expected, senior party officials said.

Ties between Asia's two biggest economies took a dive after Japan nationalized islets at the heart of a long dispute in September, prompting violent protests in China and a standoff in waters around the isles that has raised fears of a clash.

In a bid to underscore Japan's control over the East China Sea islands, called Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China, the LDP has promised to consider manning them and building structures on them, a move bound to outrage China.

LDP lawmakers knowledgeable on foreign policy, however, suggest that an Abe administration, while remaining assertive in the territorial row, would be keen to improve ties and strike a pragmatic tone with its Asian neighbor.

"We don't want to do anything to further worsen the current state of affairs," Yoshitaka Shindo, an LDP lawmaker outspoken on territorial disputes, told Reuters in an interview.

"We need to calm down the situation and smooth over our relations as Japan doesn't want to run into any military collision with any neighboring country," Shindo said.

The LDP's tough campaign tone seems to have been intended to appeal to a growing sense of nationalism among some voters and keep them from turning to the right-leaning Japan Restoration Party, newly founded by popular Osaka Mayor Toru Hashimoto.

Abe proved he can be pragmatic in his first term in office when he surprised many by moving quickly to mend ties with Beijing.

He chose China as the destination of his first overseas trip and refrained from going to the Yasukuni Shrine for war dead, seen by many as a symbol of Japan's past militarism.

"We have to set up a hotline between Tokyo and Beijing, so any potential accidents don't escalate into something bigger," said Yoshimasa Hayashi, a former defense minister and a junior cabinet minister during Abe's previous term in power in 2006.

"RELIANT ON RIGHT"

Ships from both countries have been shadowing each other near the disputed islands and on Thursday, a Chinese government plane entered what Japan considers its airspace over the area.

Japan scrambled fighter jets and protested to China in response.

Hayashi told Reuters that Japan-China talks now being conducted by diplomats should be elevated to the political level.

"This can take some time, but that is not a problem. We have to create such a framework and continue our talks," he said.

Still, analysts and Abe's advisers say that while Abe may be cautious ahead of an election for parliament's upper house next summer, his stance toward China will inevitably harden compared with his previous term given a tilt to the right in Japan's political sphere.

"This time around, Abe is more reliant on his right-wing backers who formed a part of the broader coalition that helped him get elected as the LDP chief," said Sophia University professor Koichi Nakano.

"It seems that his voters have also moved to the right and expect a hardened stance."

Japan's Abe would try to keep China ties calm-lawmakers | Reuters
 
China submits East China Sea claims to UN


BEIJING -- China provided the United Nations with detailed claims to waters in the East China Sea on Friday, apparently padding out its legal argument in an ongoing territorial dispute with Japan.

The Foreign Ministry said it submitted documents claiming waters extending beyond its 200-nautical-mile (370-kilometer) exclusive economic zone. It said geological features dictated that China's claim extended to the edge of the continental shelf off the Chinese coast, about 200 kilometers (124 miles) from Japan's Okinawa island.

A statement posted to the Foreign Ministry's website gave no specifics, but China had pledged to make such a submission shortly after its dispute with Japan over uninhabited islands in the East China Sea flared again in September. Japan angered China by buying the islands from their private Japanese owners to block a rival bid by Tokyo's nationalist mayor, a move Japan had hoped would prevent a bigger crisis.

Violent anti-Japanese protests then broke out across China to assert what many Chinese believe is their country's ages-old claim on the rocky outcrops, known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China. Taiwan also claims them.

China's move is a way for it to underscore its claim, but will have little real impact. The U.N. commission to which it submitted its claim, which comprises geological experts, evaluates the markers on technical grounds but has no authority to resolve overlapping claims.

The U.N. submission represents one aspect of China's approach to the dispute. Another involves dispatching vessels to patrol in the area and confront Japanese Coast Guard ships.

On Thursday, China for the first time dispatched a plane over the islands, prompting Tokyo to accuse it of violating Japanese air space. Japan's Defense Agency said four Japanese F-15 jets headed to the area in response, but the nonmilitary Chinese plane was nowhere to be seen by the time they got there. The Foreign Ministry said a formal protest was sent to the Chinese government through its embassy in Japan.

The islands lie in a strategic location between Japan and Taiwan, and the surrounding waters hold rich fish stocks and a potential wealth of oil, gas and other minerals.

The area China claims overlaps with Japan's exclusive economic zone and includes undersea natural gas deposits that China at one time had pledged to tap jointly with Japan. Such joint measures have since been shelved by Beijing.

China submits East China Sea claims to UN - The China Post
 
Why would Korean government want the US troops gone? US troops in Korea are under the command of the Korean Joint Chief of Staff in war time. Korea is a rare case where the entire US force deployment is under a foreign general's command.

And that would not be allowed once conflict begins. The entire Korean force will be under the Pacific command once hostility commences.

US just maintain a present there, does not mean we will interference with Asian problem, we have said many many time, Asian dispute is Asian problem, we took a neutral clause in this dispute, as long as the dispute are resolve peacefully, we have nothing for or against it.

I don't think it is up to the US to drop all the ties with Asia. Asian country need our present there, not the otherway around. If we left now, there will be a vacumn of defence capability on several country, Japan, Taiwan, Philippine and even Australia will be wide open to be attacked.

Why are the neocons always choose others first before America.
 
And that would not be allowed once conflict begins. The entire Korean force will be under the Pacific command once hostility commences.

This statement comes from your ignorance.

The reason the ROK Defense Ministry commands the US troops in wartime is simple; the Korean defense ministry operates the combined C4I system, not the US. It used to be that the US operated the combined C4I system(Hence the US commands the Korean troops in wartime), but this functionality was handed over to Korea so that the US could save money and pull out some troops.

Yes, the Korean control and command of US troops during the wartime is real.
 
Why are the neocons always choose others first before America.

That is because you don't live in other country that being protected by American Defense umberlla.

This have nothing to do with Neoconservatism, as the country we have troop in Asia are already democratic in nature, you cannot exert more opinion or advantage by presenting force in the area. Unlike Iraq and Afghanistan which we can take advantage over when we have troop stationed there.

If you look at the defense of Japan, Philippine, Australia, New Zealand. They do not have a standing army and one reason or another they cannot afford a standing army (Philippine is too poor, Japan is limited by Constitution, Australia have little population, NZ is too small.) Not to mention Taiwan, If US were to declare absent from Asia, Taiwan will be the first to say no and object this decision.

You cannot use the excuse of promote Democracy to gain advantage when those country are already one.
 
This statement comes from your ignorance.

The reason the ROK Defense Ministry commands the US troops in wartime is simple; the Korean defense ministry operates the combined C4I system, not the US. It used to be that the US operated the combined C4I system(Hence the US commands the Korean troops in wartime), but this functionality was handed over to Korea so that the US could save money and pull out some troops.

Yes, the Korean control and command of US troops during the wartime is real.

base on the Korean war record, I would be concern for the GIs over there
 
This statement comes from your ignorance.

The reason the ROK Defense Ministry commands the US troops in wartime is simple; the Korean defense ministry operates the combined C4I system, not the US. It used to be that the US operated the combined C4I system(Hence the US commands the Korean troops in wartime), but this functionality was handed over to Korea so that the US could save money and pull out some troops.

Yes, the Korean control and command of US troops during the wartime is real.

base on the Korean war record, I would be concern for the GIs over there
 
Not a big deal?
You sent patrol plan over Japanese air space.

LOL, it was never so-call Jap air space, they were only administrating the isle.

The fact is that Japan panicked, and sent up military combat planes againist a civilian plane. Of couse this showed their assertiveness towards their claim, but no doubt escalated the confrontation, and could well be causing flash-points in the future if someone incidentally pull the trigger.

We will wait and see how things will turn out in the next a couple of years.
 

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