Developments and Turkish operations in Libya

[BON PLAN]

French cheerleading the Russians once again.

You are blind if you don't find the Su35 better than a Mig29 against a F16.
Greater and more modern radar, more T/W ratio, far more endurance....

Please, calm down your french bashing.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

while i can easily agree with you ,can you tell us why this is guaranteed?

It's not guaranteed but the chance is very small, smaller than asteroid hitting Earth within the next 10 years and causing massive extinction.

 

[MMM-E]

I explained u million times. Range of SAM vs. low flying target is limited by LOS. For example for 100 m its only 36 km.

So if u fly low u can easily target S-400 with cruise missile without any risk at all.

You are right .... because of radar horizon

S-300 / S-400 can not stop the Turkish Airforce F-16s in Libya and Syria ( Lakatia )
Libya is desert country , most of Libya lies in the Sahara desert .... and Libya has mostly a flat undulating plain and occasional plateau with an average elevation of around 420 m

if S-300 / S-400 Radars will be located in Al Jufra Air Base with an average elevation of around 250 meters.
from long range , Radars can not detect F-16s and SOM Cruise Missiles which flies at 5-10 meters

SOM Cruise Missile has range of 280km
and HARM anti radiation Missile has range of 150km



and as you say Russians should deploy S300/S400s in near the seashore to protect Sirte

Turkish F-16s can fly low less than 100 meters over the Mediterranean Sea to attack S300/S400s
and 280km SOM cruise missile is capable of flying under the radar level at 2.5-3.5 meter above the land or sea level

The possible SOM attack will come from the sea to land in this scenario
And will be accomplished under the radar level. Both S300/S-400 will have no chance to detect SOM missile.


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Turkish UCAVs destroyed many Russian PANTSIR Air Defense Systems in Syria and Libya

its time to destroy S300/S400s by Turkish Cruise Missiles ... and bye bye legendary Russian Air Defence Systems in worldwide


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even Turkish Frigates/Submarines can fire 140km HARPOON Block-II land attack Cruise Missiles on S300/S400s in near of Sirte


btw I realy would want to see 250km Turkish ATMACA naval Cruise Missile with RF+IIR seeker for land attack capability to hit S300/S400s in Libya ...... Turkiye should speed up military projects

 

[blackeyes90]

E. Tüma. Cihat Yaycı: Yunanistan’ın bundan sonraki adımı GKRY ile MEB antlaşması imzalamak olacaktır. Bunun da haberleri Yunan basınında yayılmaya başladı. Bu nedenle hiç vakit kaybetmeden İsrail ve Lübnan ile de antlaşma yapmışçasına Doğu Akdeniz’de MEB ilan edilmelidir.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

You are right .... because of radar horizon

S-300 / S-400 can not stop the Turkish Airforce F-16s in Libya and Syria ( Lakatia )
Libya is desert country , most of Libya lies in the Sahara desert .... and Libya has mostly a flat undulating plain and occasional plateau with an average elevation of around 420 m

if S-300 / S-400 Radars will be located in Al Jufra Air Base with an average elevation of around 250 meters.
from long range , Radars can not detect F-16s and SOM Cruise Missiles which flies at 5-10 meters

SOM Cruise Missile has range of 280km
and HARM anti radiation Missile has range of 150km



and as you say Russians should deploy S300/S400s in near the seashore to protect Sirte

Turkish F-16s can fly low less than 100 meters over the Mediterranean Sea to attack S300/S400s
and 280km SOM cruise missile is capable of flying under the radar level at 2.5-3.5 meter above the land or sea level

The possible SOM attack will come from the sea to land in this scenario
And will be accomplished under the radar level. Both S300/S-400 will have no chance to detect SOM missile.


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Turkish UCAVs destroyed many Russian PANTSIR Air Defense Systems in Syria and Libya

its time to destroy S300/S400s by Turkish Cruise Missiles ... and bye bye legendary Russian Air Defence Systems in worldwide


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even Turkish Frigates/Submarines can fire 140km HARPOON Block-II land attack Cruise Missiles on S300/S400s in near of Sirte


btw I realy would want to see 250km Turkish ATMACA naval Cruise Missile with RF+IIR seeker for land attack capability to hit S300/S400s in Libya ...... Turkiye should speed up military projects

If Turkey bombs Jufra then Russia bombs Watiya with Kalibr cruise missiles range 2500 km. Neither side can afford war.

 

[MMM-E]

If Turkey bombs Jufra then Russia bombs Watiya with Kalibr cruise missiles range 2500 km. Neither side can afford war.

Russia directly can not attack Turkish Forces in Libya and Syria ,,, therefore Russia used Assad Regime in Syria and The Uae-Egypt in Libya

btw Turkiye can ... without Watiya but Russia can not ... without Jufra ( 14 Fighter Jets MIG-29s and SU-24s )

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Russia directly can not attack Turkish Forces in Libya and Syria ,,, therefore Russia used Assad Regime in Syria and The Uae-Egypt in Libya

btw Turkiye can ... without Watiya but Russia can not ... without Jufra ( 14 Fighter Jets MIG-29s and SU-24s )

Russia can bolster Jufra with a squadron of Su-35 which are the biggest fighter jets in Europe. And yes, Russia did attack Turkish forces in Syria and Libya. In Saraqib dozens of Turkish soldiers were killed by Russian cruise missiles before the city fell.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

It seems more Pantsir short range AD trucks are being deployed to Sirte

https://twitter.com/x/status/1291990709294309376

 

[MMM-E]

Russia can bolster Jufra with a squadron of Su-35 which are the biggest fighter jets in Europe. And yes, Russia did attack Turkish forces in Syria and Libya. In Saraqib dozens of Turkish soldiers were killed by Russian cruise missiles before the city fell.

Turkish Airforce can operate over Libya but Russian Airforce can not operate in Libya
Russia use WAGNER in Libya and 14 Fighter Jets MIG-29s and SU-24s in Libya are not belong to Russian Airforce


I am saying again Russia directly can not fight with Turkiye in Syria and Libya

Russia used Assad Regime Jets to attack Turkish forces in Idlib and Turkish Armed Forces killed thousands of Assad Regime soldiers including 6 Generals + IRGC and HEZBOLLAH militias and destroyed hundreds of Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , IFVs , 2 SU-24 Fighter Jets , 8 Helicopters and several PANTSIR Air Defense Systems in a few days

and Russia-Iran-Assad Regime could not take Idlib

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Turkish Airforce can operate over Libya but Russian Airforce can not operate in Libya
Russia use WAGNER in Libya and 14 Fighter Jets MIG-29s and SU-24s are not belong to Russian Airforce


I am saying again Russia directly can not fight with Turkiye in Syria and Libya

Russia used Assad Regime Jets to attack Turkish forces in Idlib and Turkish Armed Forces killed thousands of Assad Regime soldiers including 6 Generals + IRGC and HEZBOLLAH militias and destroyed hundreds of Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , IFVs , 2 SU-24 Fighter Jets , 8 Helicopters and several PANTSIR Air Defense Systems in a few days

and Russia-Iran-Assad Regime could not take Idlib

The attack on Saraqib occurred at night with high precision. SAA don't have that capability. Anyway, the point is, Russia can certainly attack Turkey in Syria and Libya. There's nothing that can prevent them from doing so.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

and Russia-Iran-Assad Regime could not take Idlib

Idlib is not that important to Assad. It has lots of people but no oil which means whoever protects it has to supply lots of oil and that costs a lot of money.

 

[MMM-E]

The attack on Saraqib occurred at night with high precision. SAA don't have that capability. Anyway, the point is, Russia can certainly attack Turkey in Syria and Libya. There's nothing that can prevent them from doing so.

Turkiye declared position of all Turkish Forces in Idlib to Russia and Syrian Jets have bombed Turkish Forces
maybe Russian SU-35s escorted Syrian Regime Jets at that night but Russia directly can not fight with the Turkish Armed Forces in Syria and Libya

or only 30 minutes will be enough to destroy Russian military bases in Syria by the Turkish Armed Forces and that will be a serious conflict between Russia and NATO Country Turkiye

and to lose all mega projects between Russia and Turkiye

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

and to lose all mega projects between Russia and Turkiye

Turkey's rival KSA funds Russian projects in Egypt, Syria and KSA has way more money than Turkey. Russia can care less about mega projects with Turkey. Turkey is not getting F-35 due to S-400 purchase which is what Putin wanted in the first place.

Also, Russia is aligned with KSA because both countries banned Muslim Brotherhood including Hamas while Turkey refused to ban Muslim Brotherhood including Hamas.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey's rival KSA funds Russian projects in Egypt, Syria and KSA has way more money than Turkey. Russia can care less about mega projects with Turkey. Turkey is not getting F-35 due to S-400 purchase which is what Putin wanted in the first place.

-- Russia changed Ukraine with Turkiye for Russian energy security ( TURKSTREAM gas pipeline project to Europe via Turkiye )

-- Russia invest over $22 billion to build Nuclear Power Plant in Turkiye

-- Turkiye blocked the US Navy to Black Sea against Russia in 2008
in a conflict , Turkiye can block Bosphorus against Russian Navy too


btw KSA,The Uae and Egypt are trash useless Countries without big Powers the US ,France ,Russia in Libya

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

-- Russia changed Ukraine with Turkiye for Russian energy security ( TURKSTREAM gas pipeline project to Europe via Turkiye )

It's not necessary since they already have Nord Stream and working on Nord Stream 2 and now with Ras Lanuf oil port under control they can directly export oil to southern Europe via Libya.