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If it is an older version it's not used by Russians. Russians only use newest version.
Maybe hand me down to Wagners?
 
If it is an older version it's not used by Russians. Russians only use newest version.

Who says that? Again, you are polluting the thread with your unfounded claims.
 
Judging from the radar it is clear it is either S-300PMU2 Gargoyle or S-400, both of which use the same radar. Iran has S-300PMU2 which has the same radar.


 
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Judging from the radar it is clear it is either S-300PMU2 Gargoyle or S-400, both of which use the same radar. Iran has S-300PMU2 which has the same radar.



Nice challenge. Let’s look how Turkey will handle.
 
Nice challenge. Let’s look how Turkey will handle.
F16 versus S300 - S400..... interesting.
 
Also SOM don't have the range to strike S-400.

And even if Turkey uses SOM to strike Jufra Russia uses Iskander to strike Watiya so it's best both sides cool it.
I explained u million times. Range of SAM vs. low flying target is limited by LOS. For example for 100 m its only 36 km.

So if u fly low u can easily target S-400 with cruise missile without any risk at all.
 
I explained u million times. Range of SAM vs. low flying target is limited by LOS. For example for 100 m its only 36 km.

So if u fly low u can easily target S-400 with cruise missile without any risk at all.
In this case the risk is not the S400, but the small DCA ans short range missile all around, in concentric layers.

The russions are the SAM master ! Don't imagine they will be as noob as Syrian who shoot one of their friend...
 
I explained u million times. Range of SAM vs. low flying target is limited by LOS. For example for 100 m its only 36 km.

So if u fly low u can easily target S-400 with cruise missile without any risk at all.

The Russians even explained this explicitly as to why their Pantsirs were failing in Libya and Syria.
 
In this case the risk is not the S400, but the small DCA ans short range missile all around, in concentric layers.
This SAM is located near the seashore. U can safely launch in from the sea.

The russions are the SAM master ! Don't imagine they will be as noob as Syrian who shoot one of their friend...
In fact it was Russians who shot down one of their own.

The Russians even explained this explicitly as to why their Pantsirs were failing in Libya and Syria.
In case of Pantsir LOS is not a problem. Since its short range system and Bayraktars are flying high.
 
??? Not powerfull enough I think.

MiG-29 is the same size as F-18. It's bigger than F-16. If needed, Russia can deploy Su-35 to Libya to counter F-16. Su-35 is the same size as F-15.
 
I explained u million times. Range of SAM vs. low flying target is limited by LOS. For example for 100 m its only 36 km.

So if u fly low u can easily target S-400 with cruise missile without any risk at all.

With cruise missile you need to know the location of SAM. Russians are not giving away the location of SAMs. Plus, S-300 / 400 are highly mobile and change location frequently. Drones have to get close to find locations of SAMs for cruise missiles.
 
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