Detailed reporting on foreigners arrested in Pakistan (very informative)

[Machoman]

I do not believe this, there is no way Saudi Arabia is behind all this. This total Bull S@#$. This is stupid Propaganda against Saudi Arabia. Saudi always helped us in time of need.

 

[Machoman]

I don't know when we will wake up. We keep blaming India for all our troubles. If these terrorists are being supported by India then show the bloody proof!! This is why the rest of the world laughs at us when we make such claims. Sure Indian Raw is destabilizing Pakistan, that has always happened and will happen, but these terrorists being directly funded by Raw? That is a big claim. Show the proof or shutup.

Hmm, I think you are new here, you better go few days back where they show one of a Taliban with his pants off after he died. and he was not Circumsized. I do not remember the topic name.

 

[Machoman]

Please see this post if you think India is not involved

Evidence Of Indian Involvement In SWAT

 

[Enigma SIG]

I do not believe this, there is no way Saudi Arabia is behind all this. This total Bull S@#$. This is stupid Propaganda against Saudi Arabia. Saudi always helped us in time of need.

Against Takfiri Wahabis; NOT Saudi Arabia; one cannot generalize; but the fact is that AQ and the taliban still receive funding from private donors in SA; they're killing shias all over the place; in DI Khan; DG Khan; Hangu; Parachinar; its disgusting...

 

[ajpirzada]

If it is private funding then why doesn't the saudi govt trace these people? Saudi Arabia should do its part in helping a brotherly country; rather than sleeping with the americans; as most gulf states are doing...

yup they should track it down. but again i wont say saudi gov is doin it intentionally

 

[SecularHumanist]

Hmm, I think you are new here, you better go few days back where they show one of a Taliban with his pants off after he died. and he was not Circumsized. I do not remember the topic name.

And that is your conclusive evidence for Indian support of the Taliban?

People never cease to amaze me

 

[blain2]

My uncle is 2nd secretary to the foriegn office of pakistan for nigeria,
he told us that there are 40 countries, supporting and financing talibans against pakistan!

Hasnain,

A proper perspective is needed for the above statement. I am sure funding comes from various countries, but I doubt 40 different governments are using the Taliban to hurt Pakistan's interests. There are different implications that can be taken from the above statement. I doubt that is your intention.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Hasnain,

A proper perspective is needed for the above statement. I am sure funding comes from various countries, but I doubt 40 different governments are using the Taliban to hurt Pakistan's interests. There are different implications that can be taken from the above statement. I doubt that is your intention.

His calculation must be something simple for the simple minded

like 38 ISAF + Israel (of course) + India (now the product is ready for domestic consumption) = 40

 

[notsuperstitious]

I do not believe this, there is no way Saudi Arabia is behind all this. This total Bull S@#$. This is stupid Propaganda against Saudi Arabia. Saudi always helped us in time of need.

Is it possible their idea of help is different from your idea?

 

[EjazR]

I think it is important to differentiate between Saudi or other Arab states sponsoring these people from independent groups based in these countries operating on their own. To put up a blanket claim that Saudi whahabis are involved is wrong IMO. These are extremists elements that have been allowed to grow over time because the government thought that they are harmless or wanted to take the easy way out by not opposing them. But because of these Saudi and other Arab states have been suffering from them as well.

Infact, between 2001-2006, Saudi Arabia was itself faced with a slightly similar situation that Pakistan now finds itself in. There were firefights, terrorists attacks and suicide bombings in masjids, shopping malls, housing compounds and interior ministry offices. Because of the state controlled media, only a few of these incidents ever came out to the outside world. Only local residents were aware of this.

But a focused effort on fighting these extremist elements payed off to some extent with a much better situation there on the ground now. However, it seems that these extremists have also been active in the Pashtun belt.

Unfortunately, these people derive motivation from religion by twisting and perverting it. Basically, as Musharraf and other have mentioned, its not just about winning the war, that is easy, its about defeating the ideology of hate(which is alien to Islam in any case) and Pakistan should focus on this as well by working in conjunction with Saudi and other Arab countries on this front.

Again, some details like the diary should be a goldmine of info for the Pak govt and should be helpful in counter-insurgency / counter-terrorism operations

 

[HAIDER]

Well US govt already pointed at Arab Cartel in Quetta, financing wars in that area. But too much mess in Afghanistan. Wonder why govt now prefer to tilt toward Iran and Turks.

 

[HAIDER]

Add one more thing here...during all this refugee crisis non of Arab country came forward, specially Saudies, before any disaster Saudies used to be first one to come forward. Only relief little bit is coming from UNHCR and USAID and US govt agencies. Thats about it, otherwise NON. Yes and people of Pakistan.

 

[TalibanSwatter]

Financial Times March 25, 2009

The US has told its Nato partners that funds from individuals in Gulf states such as Saudi Arabia now rival drug money as a source of financing for Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The US launched a high-profile push to reduce Gulf funding for the Taliban, al-Qaeda and other militant groups operating out of Afghanistan in the immediate aftermath of the September 11 attacks in 2001. As a result, in recent years insurgent links to Afghanistan’s burgeoning heroin trade have become the principal focus.

But Richard Holbrooke, US special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, expressed fresh concerns to Nato ambassadors during a briefing this week on the US’s strategic review of Afghan-Pakistan policy, which is expected to be announced on Friday.

“He said that the prime source of funding for the Taliban is not from narcotics but from private individuals and groups in the Gulf region particularly Saudi,” said a western diplomat, without giving further details.

Another official attending the meeting said Mr Holbrooke had suggested that much of the funding from poppy production appeared to go to individuals linked in some way to the Afghan government.

“There is real concern about funding for extremists in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region coming from the Gulf, which we understand rivals or exceeds the money they are getting from drugs,” said another diplomat, quoting estimates of $150m-$300m for insurgents’ drugs cash.

Diplomats made clear that the money did not appear to come from Gulf governments but from groups and private individuals.

The US has for some time been pushing Saudi Arabia to ensure that funds raised for charities do not ultimately finance Islamist militants.

The drive has been headed by Stuart Levey, Treasury undersecretary in the administration of George W. Bush, who was this week formally retained in his post by Barack Obama, Mr Bush’s successor as president. Mr Levey has pushed for years for Saudi Arabia to oversee effectively the international activities of Saudi-based organisations through a charities commission.

The Saudi embassy in Washington did not immediately reply to a request for comment late on Wednesday.

 

[TalibanSwatter]

The saudi role is not surprising considering the wahhabis in saudi are the ideological grandfathers of the wahhabi taliban, and have used their petrodollars to export their ideology. The zeal shown by the taliban in blowing up shrines, desecrating graves, and brutalizing women is a mirror image of what the wahabbis have been doing in saudi for the last hundred years.

Thanks to a hundred years of alliance with the saud family, the wahhabi establishment in Saudi clearly has enough clout to sponsor such criminal activities without direct support from the government. Having said that, given the symbiotic relationship between the royal family and the wahhabis, I would'nt be surprised if there is a sizeable bloc of pro-wahhabi elements within the saudi government as well.

 

[ajpirzada]

y r many of us here targetin wahabis???
its not wise to demonise any sect. im sure not many wahabis agree with talibanic system.