Destitute Afghan mother abandons ailing child at Torkham border

[Sine Nomine]

I dont know..did we provided them mig21s tanks and ak47s..wow never knew we were manufacturing them in 1970s

Do you have even know afghan history ?

I would recomend "sur revolution" and "afghan mujahedeen council" read..

Brother Afghans are the ones responsible for their woes we may only have a small part in their misery but putting the blame on Pakistan for all their misery is hardly justified.

Afghans have been fighting with each other on ethnic lines for centuries and as things are looking right now they will continue to do so. I have interacted with Afghan Refugees both in my Hometown and in My Universities the ethnic hate they have for each other is far more than their hatred for us.

Afghans drew the first blood in 60s and 70s from their refusal to accept the western border and their Military incursions in FATA. Their attempts to incite Rebellion among our Pakhtoon was not something we could ignore. Niether did we force them to ask USSR to interfere in their matter all that and the subsequent civil war was their doing. Throughout our Brief History the State of Afghanistan has refused every attempt at reconciliation from us. We even offered them a confederation.
What they did was to throw our every attempt to our face.

In all this mess we only protected our interests just as any other nation. When millions of Refugees are pouring through your borders you wont wont just sit and around and sip tea you will make sure to do damage control and thats what we did.

Know that region and peoples in it like back of my hand,it's nothing more than extension of Pakistani area west of Indus.
Pakistan has failed to do any permanent solution of that region and it is going to haunt us more in coming days.
P.S:-Zia at that time there was only one armed faction we made another which in the end spilled into many factions.

 

[Rafi]

When you go back to india with your whole family. If we go we will take our land with us.

Don't take the bait bro, I been suffering here as well.

 

[ziaulislam]

Know that region and peoples in it like back of my hand,it's nothing more than extension of Pakistani area west of Indus.
Pakistan has failed to do any permanent solution of that region and it is going to haunt us more in coming days.
P.S:-Zia at that time there was only one armed faction we made another which in the end spilled into many factions.

Honestly please read afghan history ...
Pakistan did try to manage situation in late 1990s but it didnt made thing worse rather better.
One can argue it shouldnt have but its easyvto say that when u have millions of refugees and proxy war to fight

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

When you go back to india with your whole family. If we go we will take our land with us.

Don't take what these people here say to heart. They don't understand Pukhtunwali. Pukhtoons on both sides of the Durand line are the same people.

People like us know this well. Unfortunately some people have stereotypes against Pukhtoons.

We know that it is just politics and even they will come around.

I miss @Pakhtoon_yum . He explained these concepts well from a Pukhtoon prespective.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Honestly please read afghan history ...
Pakistan did try to manage situation in late 1990s but it didnt made thing worse rather better.
One can argue it shouldnt have but its easyvto say that when u have millions of refugees and proxy war to fight

I have read about it more than anyone else.Afghanistan would always be a nuisance for us untill we grow a pair.

 

[War Thunder]

These batsards will not even say THANK YOU to Pakistan

Do you need thank you from a poor mother who couldn't afford healthcare for her child?
What are you, a human? I find that shit lacking in you tbh.
Referring to an entire people as "bastards" kinda explains your state of mental being.

or some Pakistanis should hold back their hatred for Pukhtoons and let a little sick girl be treated in peace.

Those are not Pakistanis, they are the little cancerous vermin infecting Pakistan.

Yes and GOD Gave us you as punishment!

Nope, only miserable and dumb folk like you unfortunately.

Please not this dumb logic again, we have this crazy guy " Pukhtoon Yum " who forces everyone to believe Pakistani and Afghans are same, since when Pakhtoons of Pakistan and Afghans are same ? Ok we can say for Pakhtoons from across the border but only Pakhtoons live in Afghanistan ? what do you call those non Pakhtoon Afghani ? you love Afghans so much, border is open feel free to move there along with your whole family .

And who the eff are you to decide who stays in Pak and who doesn't? Just because some one doesn't agree with your dumb logic of hating a people, they have to be lesser Pakistanis than your sorry ***?
What are you here on this forum for btw? To troll and bitch around and try to paint your absence of logic as being something logical?

Don't take what these people here say to heart. They don't understand Pukhtunwali. Pukhtoons on both sides of the Durand line are the same people.

People like us know this well. Unfortunately some people have stereotypes against Pukhtoons.

We know that it is just politics and even they will come around.

I miss @Pakhtoon_yum . He explained these concepts well from a Pukhtoon prespective.

Those people shouldn't be allowed to represent Pakistan on an online forum. Scum like that does not belong with any thing Pakistan, they can take their agenda elsewhere.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Those people shouldn't be allowed to represent Pakistan on an online forum. Scum like that does not belong with any thing Pakistan, they can take their agenda elsewhere.

We should not tolerate racism against Pukhtoons, just as we don't against Muhajirs.

Recently it's gotten alot worse here.

 

[War Thunder]

We should not tolerate racism against Pukhtoons, just as we don't against Muhajirs.

Recently it's gotten alot worse here.

Because we have more and more dumb childish people acting all logical and spreading their bullshit here now compared to the people we used to have before.
And the same childish folk have made those other people leave one by one.

There was a time I would come here and learn something and have an intellectual exchange.
Now its changed to coming here and seeing some stupid childish comments and having to exchange some harsh language or insults every now and then.

 

[Dalit]

Do you need thank you from a poor mother who couldn't afford healthcare for her child?
What are you, a human? I find that shit lacking in you tbh.
Referring to an entire people as "bastards" kinda explains your state of mental being.




Those are not Pakistanis, they are the little cancerous vermin infecting Pakistan.




Nope, only miserable and dumb folk like you unfortunately.



And who the eff are you to decide who stays in Pak and who doesn't? Just because some one doesn't agree with your dumb logic of hating a people, they have to be lesser Pakistanis than your sorry ***?
What are you here on this forum for btw? To troll and bitch around and try to paint your absence of logic as being something logical?




Those people shouldn't be allowed to represent Pakistan on an online forum. Scum like that does not belong with any thing Pakistan, they can take their agenda elsewhere.

The problem with your kind of thinking is that you fail to acknowledge the crux of the problem. We have been playing this good Samaritan game for a long time now. It doesn't lead anywhere.

The problem between Pakistan and Afghanistan is not rocket science. We have a territorial dispute. That is all there is to it. Our entire enmity stems from this dispute. I am a Pashtun and I know this first hand.

You cannot resolve a territorial dispute by handing out lollipops such as refugee stay and a visit to the hospital. The enmity will remain.

The burning question that needs to be settled between Afghanistan and Pakistan is the Durrand Line border. Afghanistan doesn't recognize the border and claims Pakistani territory as their own. Are you willing to give them KP and chunks of Balochistan?

If you are willing to address Afghan demands you can keep pretending that everything is okay between us. If not, stop pretending that eveything is okay. Every other gesture is window dressing and irrelevant. It is frankly a waste of time.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The burning question that needs to be settled between Afghanistan and Pakistan is the Durrand Line border. Afghanistan doesn't recognize the border and claims Pakistani territory as their own. Are you willing to give them KP and chunks of Balochistan?

It matters little what the city-state of Kabul believes, their time is almost up. We are entering a new era of friendship between two countries. All enemy forces have more or less been defeated.

The solution to the Durand line drawn by the British is one, we claim Afghanistan in full as part of our motherland. Unless we control this region, neither Afghans nor Paks will find peace. Foreigners will always create problems for both of us.

In the Pukhtoon areas if Afghanistan, there is a genuine change of mindset emerging. We should support union of both countries.

 

[YeBeWarned]

When you go back to india with your whole family. If we go we will take our land with us.

LOL I was waiting for a response like that trust me I hate Indians as much as I hate Afghani scums , Its not me who is seeing Pashtoonistan dream or Azaad Baluchistan or Afghani and Pakistani are same people, this can only comes from the mind of a Akhrot, And Fortunately I am not a Akhrot .

And who the eff are you to decide who stays in Pak and who doesn't? Just because some one doesn't agree with your dumb logic of hating a people, they have to be lesser Pakistanis than your sorry ***?
What are you here on this forum for btw? To troll and bitch around and try to paint your absence of logic as being something logical?

A Concerned Pakistan who lives here, and experience Afghans ruining my country , society and everything else . So yes I have a right to call those Illegal Afghans out plus those who think they are similar than what does it matter if they live in Afghanistan or Pakistan ? Same people , same land after all right ? so move to Afghan Land simply ? why even bother live in a country dominated by evil Punjabi Army ?

We should not tolerate racism against Pukhtoons, just as we don't against Muhajirs.

Recently it's gotten alot worse here.

Before Urdu speaking people just used to take sh!t from these so called Sons of Soils, because of one scum like altaf Hussain, now we kick him and his party out now we are back in the game, we show Pakistan how to take care of people who divide the Pakistani's , we did and so we start to question the loyalties of other ethnicity of Pakistan to show their loyalty , its time these Pakhtoon take a side, Pakistan or Pashtoonistan/Afghanistan, if they choose the latter than I would suggest GTFO of Karachi and rest of Pakistan and stay in your beloved Afghanistan .

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Before Urdu speaking people just used to take sh!t from these so called Sons of Soils, because of one scum like altaf Hussain, now we kick him and his party out now we are back in the game, we show Pakistan how to take care of people who divide the Pakistani's , we did and so we start to question the loyalties of other ethnicity of Pakistan to show their loyalty , its time these Pakhtoon take a side, Pakistan or Pashtoonistan/Afghanistan, if they choose the latter than I would suggest GTFO of Karachi and rest of Pakistan and stay in your beloved Afghanistan .

Just like no one has a right to criticize your loyalty, you don't have a right to criticize the loyalty of others.

Actually you think you are making Pakistan stronger, but you are weakening your state and dividing your own people against each other. It is just a repeat of 1990s racial politics which kept Pakistan backwards.

Karachi is not your personal property to decide who belongs there or who does not. It is a Pakistani city where every Pakistani has a right to live there who is a citizen to this state.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Just like no one has a right to criticize your loyalty, you don't have a right to criticize the loyalty of others.

Actually you think you are making Pakistan stronger, but you are weakening your state and dividing your own people against each other. It is just a repeat of 1990s racial politics which kept Pakistan backwards.

Karachi is not your personal property to decide who belongs there or who does not. It is a Pakistani city where every Pakistani has a right to live there who is a citizen to this state.

Keyword is Pakistani, not Afghan ..Pakistani's are free to go and live anywhere in Pakistan but unfortunately the Tribal don't let others settle in their areas, in fact all of them be is Sindhi , Baluchi , Pakhtoon, they all come and live and do Business in Karachi but don't let others live in their lands, there were many cases of Punjabi Labors been kidnap and killed in Baluchistan . Many Tribal Pakhtoons hate Punjabi's , Quetta Pathans hate Afghans etc .

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Keyword is Pakistani, not Afghan ..Pakistani's are free to go and live anywhere in Pakistan but unfortunately the Tribal don't let others settle in their areas, in fact all of them be is Sindhi , Baluchi , Pakhtoon, they all come and live and do Business in Karachi but don't let others live in their lands, there were many cases of Punjabi Labors been kidnap and killed in Baluchistan . Many Tribal Pakhtoons hate Punjabi's , Quetta Pathans hate Afghans etc .

That does not justify promoting divisions. Brother, we are better than this. Pakistan needs unity, enough with this ethnic/sectarian/regional animosities.

The first thing Rasool Pak saws did when he entered Madinah was to bring Aws and Khazraj, bitter enemies with a blood feud, together into one community whom he called Ansar. The Makkans, who were mainly poor Arabs and freed Abyssinian slaves, were beaten again and again by Kuffar into one community, which became Muhajireen.

Let's strive for a better Pakistan, for all Pakistanis.

 

[StormBreaker]

LOL I was waiting for a response like that trust me I hate Indians as much as I hate Afghani scums , Its not me who is seeing Pashtoonistan dream or Azaad Baluchistan or Afghani and Pakistani are same people, this can only comes from the mind of a Akhrot, And Fortunately I am not a Akhrot .



A Concerned Pakistan who lives here, and experience Afghans ruining my country , society and everything else . So yes I have a right to call those Illegal Afghans out plus those who think they are similar than what does it matter if they live in Afghanistan or Pakistan ? Same people , same land after all right ? so move to Afghan Land simply ? why even bother live in a country dominated by evil Punjabi Army ?



Before Urdu speaking people just used to take sh!t from these so called Sons of Soils, because of one scum like altaf Hussain, now we kick him and his party out now we are back in the game, we show Pakistan how to take care of people who divide the Pakistani's , we did and so we start to question the loyalties of other ethnicity of Pakistan to show their loyalty , its time these Pakhtoon take a side, Pakistan or Pashtoonistan/Afghanistan, if they choose the latter than I would suggest GTFO of Karachi and rest of Pakistan and stay in your beloved Afghanistan .

Rehne de bhai, har waqt yehi bhes karte rahogay, faida kuch hona nai, aqalmand logon ko samjhanay ki zarurat nai aur bewaqoofon ko samjhanay ka faida nai...