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China is only friendly with nations that listens to them.

Its becoming a big bully, hopefully more nations can stand up against them.

I disagree with highlighted part. On the face China have friendly relation with all nations, they're really good at it BUT allow special preference for it's poodles countries like North Korea etc.

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1, You better check my reply at #17.
2, I have never heard any case that any country threw itself to a trade war or economy war for ally's sake. Even the EU members(regarded as more intimate than pact allies) won't borrow hand when other member is in economic trouble.
3, I would be happy if China severs economic relationship with SK. Cause SK gained much more than China did in the relationship. It's not a fair relationship. China didn't obtain a big market but SK did. China didn't obtain trade surplus but SK did. SK is more like a competitor rather than cooperator to China because the two countries have similar economic structure. SK's leave is good news for our domestic companies.
4, Foreign investment? Come on. China is investing around world.

1.) I have check your reply, but did you check mine?
2.) You do know Britain was not in the triparte agreement and should not and would not require to sanction Germany and Austro-Hungary in 1910, nor was the Brits actually required by Defence Pact to join the war on Allied Side in the WW1 in 1914. At the same time, US stayed neutral until 1918 when they joined the war in WW1. Before that, US does not allow Germany to have payment pass thru US soil and clear any German Payment to and from Germany via United States. US have not have any pact with Britain, Russia and France, and even when the US joined the War in 1918, they joined as a seperate entity, not even in the allied force.

Not to mention US favor a trade embargo with UK allies prior to WW2, which the US emabgo is the sole reason listed by the Japanese as to why they have to attack Pearl harbor.

Just because you don't know does not mean it never happened. In case of a trade or physical hostilities, those country will bend together and fight together, what you expect is one thing, what they wil do is another.

3.) Well, again, you can think what you want, but in reality, people better than you and me are in charge, and they say no trade war. So....

4.) You do know China still take a large chunk of FDI, Chinese investment is not actually as strong as you think, the investment imbalance means most of the Chinese FDI outside China are provided by same individual group, but at the same time, a lot more smaller company are enjoying direct investment from a foreign country.

Do you actually aware of how much Foreign Investment In China? China has become the most invested place since 2014, topple Hong Kong and the USA. That's MONEY FLOWING INTO CHINA, not out

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31052566

And since then FDI in China have been increasing every year

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/foreign-direct-investment
 
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so America decides to put thaad in korea and not japan. looks like the Korean is having to be on the receiving end of a Chinese dildo instead of the Japanese. the Japanese will be laughing all the way to their banks if the Chinese decide to shut out Samsung and huyndai. everyone with half a brain knows that Japanese companies' market share have been eaten away by the rise of Korean corporation. the Japanese are more than happy to take over the market share of the Korean in china. not in a million year that the Japanese will be helping the Korean in a trade war between china and korea. a trade war between korea and china is an opportunity for the Japanese to make money. the Japanese defied America by investing in Vietnam in the 1980's. the Japanese will do whatever it takes to serve their interest,..not the interest of America and definitely not the interest of the Korean whom japan hate with a passion.
 
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so America decides to put thaad in korea and not japan. looks like the Korean is having to be on the receiving end of a Chinese dildo instead of the Japanese. the Japanese will be laughing all the way to their banks if the Chinese decide to shut out Samsung and huyndai. everyone with half a brain knows that Japanese companies' market share have been eaten away by the rise of Korean corporation. the Japanese are more than happy to take over the market share of the Korean in china. not in a million year that the Japanese will be helping the Korean in a trade war between china and korea. a trade war between korea and china is an opportunity for the Japanese to make money. the Japanese defied America by investing in Vietnam in the 1980's. the Japanese will do whatever it takes to serve their interest,..not the interest of America and definitely not the interest of the Korean whom japan hate with a passion.

Japan is asking US for THAAD too now :lol: but I agree that the Japanese are using America to their advantage. Trump has been angry at Japan for unfair trade practices. Abe sure knows how to play Trump despite that very awkward handshake everyone was talking about :rofl:. The Japanese now even took revenge against the US for those two A-bombs humiliation they suffered through Fukushima :lol:, guess which direction the radiated water is heading to? :rofl:
 
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HONG KONG — Increasingly concerned about the threats from North Korea’s provocative behavior, the United States said Tuesday it had started to deploy an antimissile system in South Korea that China has angrily opposed as a threat to its security.

The deployment of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System, or Thaad, came after North Korea launched four ballistic missiles on Monday apparently in response to joint naval exercises by South Korea and the United States. Those launchings led South Korea to call for the accelerated deployment of Thaad.

“Continued provocative actions by North Korea, to include yesterday’s launch of multiple missiles, only confirm the prudence of our alliance decision last year to deploy Thaad to South Korea,” Adm. Harry B. Harris Jr., the United States Pacific commander, said in a statement. “We will resolutely honor our alliance commitments to South Korea and stand ready to defend ourselves, the American homeland and our allies.”

China has been particularly incensed over the deployment of the system, which it regards as an intrusion that could compromise its military capabilities.

Recently, Chinese media urged people to boycott South Korean products and companies. Other commentators have advocated additional stern measures, including severing diplomatic relations.

A retired general, Luo Yuan, even suggested that China destroy the systemwith a military strike. “We could conduct a surgical hard-kill operation that would destroy the target,” General Luo wrote in The Global Times, a state-run newspaper.

South Korea is in turmoil over the impeachment of president Park Geun-hye, who supported deploying Thaad. But with the president facing possible removal, the system’s fate had been in doubt, and its early deployment could make it harder for her successor to head off its installation.

Last year, thousands of people in Seongju, a rural southern county, protested after learning that a Thaad battery would be put there. They said they feared that the system would harm their agricultural livelihoods.

Many South Koreans also worry that any expansion of military ties with the United States could worsen tensions with both the North and China.

Under its deal with Washington, South Korea will provide land and build the base, but the United States will pay for the missile system, to be built by Lockheed Martin, as well as its operational costs.

The United States’ statement said “the first elements” of Thaad were deployed Monday, the same day as the North’s launchings.

“We will resolutely honor our alliance commitments to South Korea and stand ready to defend ourselves, the American homeland, and our allies,” Admiral Harris said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/world/asia/north-korea-thaad-missile-defense-us-china.html?_r=0
 
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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/599956/us-deploys-anti-ballistic-missile.html
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The US military has begun deploying an anti-ballistic missile defense system to South Korea, following a string of missile tests by North Korea, the US Pacific Command said.

The announcement came after nuclear-armed North Korea yesterday launched four missiles which it said was part of training for a strike on US bases in Japan. Three of the missiles came down provocatively close to Japan.

Deployment of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system "contributes to a layered missile defense system and enhances the US-ROK Alliance's defense against North Korean missile threats," the Pacific Command yesterday said in a statement.

"North Korea's accelerating program of nuclear weapons tests and ballistic missile launches constitute a threat to international peace and security, and are in violation of multiple United Nations Security Council resolutions."

South Korea and the United States agreed last year to install the THAAD system, which China has repeatedly denounced as a threat to its security.

The statement from the Pacific Command, which oversees US military operations in the Asia-Pacific, pointed out that the system is "a strictly defensive capability and it poses no threat to other countries in the region."

The system is meant to intercept and destroy short and medium-range ballistic missiles during their final phase of flight.
 
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http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/us-moves-parts-of-controversial-missile-defense-to-skorea

SEOUL, South Korea — U.S. missile launchers and other equipment needed to set up a controversial missile defense system have arrived in South Korea, the U.S. and South Korean militaries said Tuesday, a day after North Korea test-launched four ballistic missiles into the ocean near Japan.

The plans to deploy the Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense system, or THAAD, within this year have angered not only North Korea, but also China and Russia, which see the system's powerful radars as a security threat.

China responded quickly, saying it will take "necessary measures" to protect itself and warning that the U.S. and South Korea should be prepared to bear the consequences.

Washington and Seoul say the system is defensive and not meant to be a threat to Beijing or Moscow. The U.S. military said in a statement that THAAD can intercept and destroy short and medium range ballistic missiles during the last part of their flights.

"Continued provocative actions by North Korea, to include yesterday's launch of multiple missiles, only confirm the prudence of our alliance decision last year to deploy THAAD to South Korea," Adm. Harry Harris, head of the U.S. Pacific Command, said in the statement.

Some South Korean liberal presidential candidates have said that the security benefits of having THAAD would be curtailed by worsened relations with neighbors China and Russia.

"China firmly opposes the deployment of THAAD," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said at a regular briefing Tuesday. "We will definitely be taking necessary measures to safeguard our own security interest. All consequences entailed from that will be borne by the U.S. and (South Korea). We once again strongly urge the relevant sides to stop the process of deployment and refrain from going further down that wrong path."

China's condemnation of South Korea's plans to deploy THAAD has triggered protests against a South Korean retail giant, Lotte, which agreed to provide one of its golf courses in southern South Korea as the site of THAAD. The South Korean government also raised concerns about a reported ban on Chinese tour groups visiting the country.

On Tuesday, China's Global Times, an outspoken nationalist tabloid published by the ruling Communist Party's flagship People's Daily, criticized North Korea over the missiles.

"By firing four missiles at once this time, the military confrontation between Pyongyang, Seoul and Washington escalates a notch," the paper said. "Noticeably, the Chinese public is angry that Pyongyang's nuclear program has provided an excuse for Seoul to deploy THAAD."

An official from South Korea's Defense Ministry, who didn't want to be named, citing office rules, said that the equipment that arrived in South Korea included launchers, but didn't confirm how many.

While South Korea's media speculate that the THAAD deployment could be completed by as early as April, the ministry official couldn't confirm those reports. The official said that the plan was to have the system operational as soon as possible.

On Monday, North Korea fired four ballistic missiles in an apparent protest against ongoing U.S.-South Korean military drills that it views as an invasion rehearsal. The missiles flew about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) on average, three of them landing in waters that Japan claims as its exclusive economic zone, according to South Korean and Japanese officials.

The North's state media on Tuesday said leader Kim Jong Un supervised a ballistic rocket launching drill, a likely reference to the four launches reported by Seoul and Tokyo. Involved in the drills were artillery units tasked with striking "U.S. imperialist aggressor forces in Japan," according to the Korean Central News Agency.

There was pride and defiance among the elite citizens who live in North Korea's showcase capital, Pyongyang.

"If the U.S. imperialists and their South Korean puppets shoot even just one spark into our sovereign territory, we will completely destroy those aggressors, without any mercy, with our invincible Hwasong artillery, which are loaded with nuclear warheads," Sim Chol Su, echoing the propaganda often found in state media, told The Associated Press.

North Korea uses "Hwasong" to describe a broad range of its ballistic missiles, including Scuds and the mid-range missiles that are referred to as Rodong and Musudan by outside analysts.

South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said that the missiles fired by the North were believed to be "improved versions" of Scud missiles. South Korean experts say North Korea's extended-range Scuds and mid-range Rodong missiles are capable of hitting Japan, including U.S. military bases in Okinawa.

Kim "ordered the KPA (Korean People's Army) Strategic Force to keep highly alert as required by the grim situation in which an actual war may break out anytime," a KCNA dispatch said.
 
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According to the Yonhap News Agency, parts of the system were delivered on Monday to the Osan Air Base in Pyeongtaek, 43 miles south of Seoul.

The THAAD system has a range of over 200 kilometers (125 miles) and is designed to intercept short, medium and intermediate ballistic missiles at the terminal incoming stage. The agreement on THAAD between South Korea and the United States was reached in July 2016, spurred by North Korea's nuclear program development.

Earlier, US Department of Defense spokesman Navy Commander Gary Ross told Sputnik that Missile launches by North Korea confirmed that the decision to deploy the THAAD system to South Korea was right.

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"President Trump emphasized the United States' ironclad commitment to stand with Japan and South Korea in the face of the serious threat posed by North Korea. He emphasized that his Administration is taking steps to further enhance our ability to deter and defend against North Korea's ballistic missiles using the full range of United States military capabilities," the statement read.

According to the statement, Trump agreed with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and South Korean Acting President Hwang Kyo-ahn "to continue close bilateral and trilateral cooperation to demonstrate to North Korea that there are very dire consequences for its provocative and threatening actions."

 
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Win win win situation for everybody: China, Korea and Vietnam.

Chinese companies profit from Korean companies leaving China. Chinese can take over the Korean market share. Korea can take advantage from cheaper production costs and rising domestic demands by relocating factories to Vietnam. We are not as big as China, but we can offer a bit of comfort for fleeing Koreans. VN is a good guy, we will welcome the Korean refugees. Chinese consumers can profit from lower Korean products when importing from Vietnam.

Why should anyone complain?
 
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so America decides to put thaad in korea and not japan. looks like the Korean is having to be on the receiving end of a Chinese dildo instead of the Japanese. the Japanese will be laughing all the way to their banks if the Chinese decide to shut out Samsung and huyndai. everyone with half a brain knows that Japanese companies' market share have been eaten away by the rise of Korean corporation. the Japanese are more than happy to take over the market share of the Korean in china. not in a million year that the Japanese will be helping the Korean in a trade war between china and korea. a trade war between korea and china is an opportunity for the Japanese to make money. the Japanese defied America by investing in Vietnam in the 1980's. the Japanese will do whatever it takes to serve their interest,..not the interest of America and definitely not the interest of the Korean whom japan hate with a passion.
If you had bothered to do basic research on how the THAAD system works, you would have understand that putting the THAAD systems in Korea make better technical sense than in Japan. You would have correctly surmised that putting the THAAD in Japan would STILL anger China and that China would probably uses economic pressure to punish JPN instead of SKR.
 
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If you had bothered to do basic research on how the THAAD system works, you would have understand that putting the THAAD systems in Korea make better technical sense than in Japan. You would have correctly surmised that putting the THAAD in Japan would STILL anger China and that China would probably uses economic pressure to punish JPN instead of SKR.

Indeed putting THAAD in Japan would make them even madder. But it make sense to put some in case of support for forces in South Korea.
 
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If you had bothered to do basic research on how the THAAD system works, you would have understand that putting the THAAD systems in Korea make better technical sense than in Japan. You would have correctly surmised that putting the THAAD in Japan would STILL anger China and that China would probably uses economic pressure to punish JPN instead of SKR.
THAAD could have been deployed in japan or korea. however, thaad is being deployed in korea and NOT japan. at the end of the day, korea is the receiving end of the Chinese stick/dildo while the Japanese is laughing all the way to their banks. not sure how America is going to compensate korea for hundred of billions of dollars of trade korea is losing from the Chinese market?
 
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