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October 24, 2011


Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz waves during a Saudi security forces parade in Mecca. Photo: Reuters

Saudi Arabia's absolute monarch will make a historic concession to the principle of the vote as a special council is balloted for the first time on who should succeed him.

The move follows the announcement of the death of King Abdullah's half-brother, the 80-year-old Crown Prince Sultan.

The man expected to become heir to the throne is Interior Minister Prince Nayef, 78 (left), a close ally of the country's hard-line clergy who is on the record as opposing women being granted the right to vote or drive.
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King Abdullah is expected to seek approval for his choice from the Allegiance Council, composed of the 34 branches of the ruling family, though it is not expected to dissent.

Read more: First Vote On Heir Choice
 
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Saudi Arabia! A kingdom of the Royals, for the Royals, by the Royals. That's 'Saudi democracy' for you! The ordinary folk don't count in the power equation. They're just slaves. This family is a disgrace to the Muslim Ummah! Period!
 
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What amazes me is the way these Saudis claim to be the defenders of Islam. They practice aristocracy at the expense of the rights of the ordinary Muslims and at the same time preach Islam to the Muslim Ummah. Their hunger for power and luxury has turned them into great hypocrites.
 
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By Tariq A. Al Maeena, Special to Gulf News
October 23, 2011

Change must take place from within

Radical transformations, especially those that happen overnight, can have a less than desired effect on any society

Just last week, I bumped into Ali, a friend I hadn't seen for a quite some time. I was slightly taken aback by his shabby appearance, sporting a wild mane of hair and dressed as he was in an unkempt linen kaftan and faded jeans that seemed to have run their course. His table manners at the cafe we met at were similarly surprising.

"What has happened to you, Ali? Why this change? You were so proper and nattily dressed up in our last meeting. If my memory serves me right, you also meticulously followed the etiquette of dinner-plate settings and silverware rules. Just what has happened since then to change all of that?"

"Tariq," he sighed. "That's all in the past. I'm just going to remain in this mode until I see real change in our society. I was so upbeat and energised then when we began hearing about the implementation of positive reforms that affected us all, but has anything really materialised? It's all been talk, more talk, and nothing else."

"But surely, Ali, there has been a degree of change. Attitudes seem to be mellowing, and extremism has been exposed for what it is — a sickness within. And are you not aware of what is taking place around you. Hey, women can vote and join the Shura, something unheard of a year ago," I offered back. "Whoopee, but can they drive? What is it about our society that has not moved on this issue? Are we aliens on earth to deprive half our population such basic rights? People talk of change, and wait for change, but they themselves are the very ones who resist it."

Waving casually at a group of people seated nearby, Ali continued, "Look around you at all these people. A great deal of corruption you hear about is pursued by these very people. They are the first ones espousing progress and rooting like cheerleaders but so long as their bank accounts remain healthy, they don't really care."

"But what is it exactly that depresses you? What has actually turned you off, Ali," I continued.

"Tariq, in a running stream, we are static or not moving fast enough. Where are the changes in our education system? Granted, there have been a few modifications, but for the most part, it remains much of the same; mired in centuries-old ideology. I mean here we are in 2011, and we face pressing issues that need addressing and resolution. We have a serious unemployment problem. We have an uncontrolled population growth. We have a decaying infrastructure. We have a rise of corruption within the public sector, the likes that never before existed. Our public services are failing to meet the needs of many. Where is the accountability for such public servants?"

Growth hampered

"While all this is going on, we are still bogged down with the insignificant issue of permitting schoolgirls some physical activity! Such continuing inconsistencies in this culture of contradictions that continue to hamper the growth of this country. Let us move ahead for once and focus on the issues that really require attention. And for Pete's sake, let the girls have all the physical activity they need. At least that would address the problem of growing obesity among female teenagers here."

"And while we are at it, my friend, why not tailor our education to the needs of the marketplace. How many times do you hear our business leaders bemoaning the fact that our university graduates are ill-equipped with the necessary tools to sustain them. How long do we have to depend on foreign labour when we have Saudis out of jobs? Everybody here is quick to parrot that the world is a global village, but why do I sense that we are on some other planet? Why is our pace towards modernisation and progress so much slower than the rest of the world's?"

He continued, "Look around you my friend. The Arab world is going through change the like of which we have not witnessed for decades. As for our problems, all this is nothing new. If you check the archives of most of our newspapers, you will see references to some of the problems I have brought up as old as a decade. And sadly, I hate to burst your bubble Tariq. But the times, they aren't a-changing."

I had to disagree with my friend. He wanted change to happen overnight. Such radical transformations can have a less than desired effect on any society. Change is an evolution and not a revolution. And it should take place from within, for the general good of all and at the pace dictated from within.

Tariq A. Al Maeena is a Saudi socio-political commentator. He lives in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

gulfnews : Change must take place from within
 
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The gruesome picture of Gaddafi's demise must have had an effect upon the House of Saud. The hunt for despots has gained new momentum, so the rulers of Saudi Arabia are understandably very uncomfortable.
 
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The gruesome picture of Gaddafi's demise must have had an effect upon the House of Saud. The hunt for despots has gained new momentum, so the rulers of Saudi Arabia are understandably very uncomfortable.

Uncomfortable yes.

But we all know that an armed revolt cannot succeed without foreign assistance, and when they're in the pocket of an ally that has veto powers at the UN then the only thing they got to worry about is international PR and media.
 
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Uncomfortable yes.

But we all know that an armed revolt cannot succeed without foreign assistance, and when they're in the pocket of an ally that has veto powers at the UN then the only thing they got to worry about is international PR and media.

Mubarak of Egypt and Reza Shah Pahlevi of Iran were also in the pocket of the same veto holding ally but in the end that could not save them from being toppled. In case of Saudi Arabia foreign assistance to any possible revolt is not really that far away.
 
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Mubarak of Egypt and Reza Shah Pahlevi of Iran were also in the pocket of the same veto holding ally but in the end that could not save them from being toppled. In case of Saudi Arabia foreign assistance to any possible revolt is not really that far away.

I don't think it will be that easy in KSA case. Ofcourse Uprising and revolt or insurgency against the current royal family will not be easy. Also they have immense amount of money and life in KSA is different than what is in Egypt or Syria or other arab countries. Common man in KSA has so much luxury that they don't even bother to find a job to earn something, forget about any political protest because so far no one in KSA possess public support or should i say because there are no political activities so hardly one can expect a nationwide movement against the royals.
 
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I don't think it will be that easy in KSA case. Ofcourse Uprising and revolt or insurgency against the current royal family will not be easy. Also they have immense amount of money and life in KSA is different than what is in Egypt or Syria or other arab countries. Common man in KSA has so much luxury that they don't even bother to find a job to earn something, forget about any political protest because so far no one in KSA possess public support or should i say because there are no political activities so hardly one can expect a nationwide movement against the royals.

Humans become very unpredictable when they see others have freedom but they don't. Sometimes they sacrifice not only luxury but their very lives for freedom and self-respect. Now, we'll have to wait and see if the ordinary Saudis have those human traits.
 
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Humans become very unpredictable when they see others have freedom but they don't. Sometimes they sacrifice not only luxury but their very lives for freedom and self-respect. Now, we'll have to wait and see if the ordinary Saudis have those human traits.

i think the current King is aware of the public feelings so alot has changed since he's in power.
 
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I don't think it will be that easy in KSA case. Ofcourse Uprising and revolt or insurgency against the current royal family will not be easy. Also they have immense amount of money and life in KSA is different than what is in Egypt or Syria or other arab countries. Common man in KSA has so much luxury that they don't even bother to find a job to earn something, forget about any political protest because so far no one in KSA possess public support or should i say because there are no political activities so hardly one can expect a nationwide movement against the royals.

They don't bother to have jobs?? People are suffering due to high unemployment and you say they do not want jobs. The biggest hurdle facing Saudis to get jobs is that their are others who are willing to do the same thing for less money so the Saudis are not wanted by companies and corporations.

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Humans become very unpredictable when they see others have freedom but they don't. Sometimes they sacrifice not only luxury but their very lives for freedom and self-respect. Now, we'll have to wait and see if the ordinary Saudis have those human traits.

are you implying mr.secular that we may not be humans?? Is it so hard for anyone to believe that yes actually the common saudi IS happy and feel content with their rulers and do not feel like changing them?? seriously we don't. We have everything we can ask for the government is doing everything and then some to take care of its citizens. From free health care to free college education why in hell we would want to change our happy life??

We feel free and our self-esteem is very happy thank you for your understanding.
 
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They don't bother to have jobs?? People are suffering due to high unemployment and you say they do not want jobs. The biggest hurdle facing Saudis to get jobs is that their are others who are willing to do the same thing for less money so the Saudis are not wanted by companies and corporations.

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are you implying mr.secular that we may not be humans?? Is it so hard for anyone to believe that yes actually the common saudi IS happy and feel content with their rulers and do not feel like changing them?? seriously we don't. We have everything we can ask for the government is doing everything and then some to take care of its citizens. From free health care to free college education why in hell we would want to change our happy life??

We feel free and our self-esteem is very happy thank you for your understanding.

Do the common Saudi have the freedom to be discontented? I hear that any sign of discontent is eliminated without any delay. In that kind of political environment who do you think will be fool enough to say that he is discontented? BTW what would you you call a man whose goal is to bust the myth of secularism?
 
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