Democracy is a failed experiment

[mitth]

Democracy is failed because reason is that our Politician's her nation far a Democracy or not rite use Democracy.......
What is the Democracy ? the meaning of Democracy ?

 

[lem34]

I think people inherently are good whether they are american indian or pakistani, its our corrupt governments that do not give effect to what people want. I do not believe that any countries populations want war and killing and hense my suggestion that we need to work out a way that govts really reflect what people really want. most americans pakistanis and indians are worried about daily chores we dont wake up thinking oh yea better get ready to have war etc

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Democracy is failed because reason is that our Politician's her nation far a Democracy or not rite use Democracy.......
What is the Democracy ? the meaning of Democracy ?

rule of the people for the people?

 

[huzihaidao12]

There is a proper link between Religious change(Protestant revolution),Renaissance,Mercantile Capitalism and political activity.It is the bankers who fund everything and it is the indutrialists who put money in the banks.This is as much i can do to explain.

I can only say that Japan's industrialization from their own efforts and plundering from other Asian countries. Political or not, it is so.

 

[hunter_hunted]

Democracy is the best revenge Americans should also follow this motto of Pakistan Peoples Party, and they are taking the best revenge from Pakistani people of unknown crime.

 

[lem34]

Democracy is the best revenge Americans should also follow this motto of Pakistan Peoples Party, and they are taking the best revenge from Pakistani people of unknown crime.

Our crime is to dare to do what is best for pakistan and pakistani people and not subjugate our interest to american interests

 

[dawud123]

then why sharia has not come into force, what is holding it back? not even in one country.

No you are wrong. Taliban in Afghanistan implented the Shariah law before the invasion of Americans. Khomeini implemeted shriah in Iran. whether you agree with their interpretation of Shariah or not is another matter. but they did.

 

[jamal18]

Hardly,India has got way less aid and foriegn investment than most countries.Dont talk random ****.

And South Korea and Taiwan a little kids compared to India.

India in the past received massive aid because it was poor, democracy did not make it rich.

South Korea and Taiwan have shown exemplary growth, even though they were military dictatorships.

That is what this thread is about.

And I would be grateful if you never talk to me in that vein.

 

[below_freezing]

Well, i am personally all for democracy, that is the way forward. I have seen many sh!t govs and systems that democracy looks the only best option, maybe not perfect, but certainly the top one. Yes, good goernance is imporatnt, but how can you can have good governer and governance without have the right to choose? sadam? Qazafi? taliban? other options? if you dont get the right people in place, the country will go into freefall.

The Soviet Union, for example, after WW2 never suffered starvation, disease, poverty, illiteracy, etc.

Keep in mind that in 1917, Russians were a poor, defeated, backwards race. In 1967, Russia sent a satellite into space, won WW2, eliminated starvation, poverty and communicable disease, etc. 40 years might sound huge, you say. Well, did India change much in the years 1947-1987 in terms of starvation, poverty, disease? Did Afghanistan? Did so called democracies like Kenya, Nigeria, Uganda, Zimbabwe, etc. change much?

The socialist system is already democratic. The only communist dictatorship in the world is North Korea; all other socialist nations are full democracies. The leaders are elected by an educated electorate with no financial interests in the specific candidate who wins. The electorates themselves are elected by other electorates, equally educated and equally neutral, and these are elected by the people. No such thing as Wall Street and the military funding puppets to seize power.

 

[lem34]

India in the past received massive aid because it was poor, democracy did not make it rich.

South Korea and Taiwan have shown exemplary growth, even though they were military dictatorships.

That is what this thread is about.

And I would be grateful if you never talk to me in that vein.

Democracy did not give it a higher literacy level than say china, democracy also did not help in alleviating poverty compare to china. And the west love to knock china cos they dont have western defined democracy

 

[below_freezing]

There is a proper link between Religious change(Protestant revolution),Renaissance,Mercantile Capitalism and political activity.It is the bankers who fund everything and it is the indutrialists who put money in the banks.This is as much i can do to explain.

No, that's the excuse they give you. The Industrial revolution was fueled by the exploitation of surplus resource and labor (Americas and black slaves) which led to economic growth faster than population. In the past, all surplus economic growth was quickly consumed by a rising population.

 

[Ahmad]

Exactly my point so we should have an open mind and look on how to improve on it

off course, what you say is itself fundemantal part of democracy, you cant have open mind and improve things without democracy.

 

[Nitin Goyal]

A question : we have seen revolution and mass movement against communism, dictatorship etc.. but does anyone see any movement against democracy ?

 

[Ahmad]

No you are wrong. Taliban in Afghanistan implented the Shariah law before the invasion of Americans. Khomeini implemeted shriah in Iran. whether you agree with their interpretation of Shariah or not is another matter. but they did.

the taliban were a bunch of fundo racists, they killed thousands of innocent people, they beat people with metal cable if they saw them on the streets during jama'at time, they used to beat women badly, they used to gauge men's beard with the glass local oil lamp and if it was less than that they would end up being in jail, they were corrupt to teath, they killed anybody once they took the area if they didnt look like them, i dont understand from which side of the taliban should i talk to you. You have to live under the taliban to see who and how they are. If that is islam, then i wont bother to call myself muslim.

 

[Zabaniyah]

the taliban were a bunch of fundo racists, they killed thousands of innocent people, they beat people with metal cable if they saw them on the streets during jama'at time, they used to beat women badly, they used to gauge men's beard with the glass local oil lumb and if it was less than that they would end up being in jail, they were corrupt to teath, they killed anybody once they took the area if they didnt look like them, i dont understand from which side of the taliban should i talk to you. You have to live under the taliban to see who and how they are. If that is islam, then i wont bother to call myself muslim.

The truth is that the Taliban are mostly a bunch of thugs in turbans. I don't know why some people support them, seeing them as the 'good guys'. Is being a thug a part of Islam? I doubt it.

It's pretty sick and wicked that they claim to be 'holy men'.

However, I have come to believe that the Taliban consists of various fragmented groups with their own ideas and views.

That part of the Afghan Mujaheddin lost their minds after the brutal war with the Soviets.

 

[huzihaidao12]

A question : we have seen revolution and mass movement against communism, dictatorship etc.. but does anyone see any movement against democracy ?

Good question, you see, even a neutral discussion of other possibilities, but also by fierce resistance, only to discuss a possible other way, some people still can not accept, it hurt anything? Then you know what that is, brainwashed, I can say?