Delhi wary of Hasina's 'pro-India-slant'

[PRACTICAL PATRIOT]

i see llts of bengalis here talking against INDIA and blaming INDIA for every bad thing happened. can any bengali tell me what will INDIA get by troubling BD?

 

[Md Akmal]

i see llts of bengalis here talking against INDIA and blaming INDIA for every bad thing happened. can any bengali tell me what will INDIA get by troubling BD?

" Ai khane to kobi nirob, amarrotu akoi kotha" means "here the poet is silent, I have the same question to you". Regards, Welcome "Babu moshai".

 

[somebozo]

i see llts of bengalis here talking against INDIA and blaming INDIA for every bad thing happened. can any bengali tell me what will INDIA get by troubling BD?

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Apparently you never heard about north-east insurgency, the "chicken neck" of India and potential of any future conflict with China breaking India into two. Infact the indian leaders realized the Indian "chicken neck" venerability and had be proactive since day one in east-Pakistan either to split it away into India-friendly client state or annex it as a whole.

Chicken neck is the so called narrow path between Bangladesh and Nepal connection to north-west India. Close this path and India is divided in two instantly. India very much needs free access to Bangladesh territory or at-least a friendly "client" government in BD to maintain its future territorial integrity.

One question..If AL was all that nationalist and concerned about growing disparity between east and west then why did Mujeeb turned to Indian friendly dictatorial rule ruthlessly killing and looting own people and taking the BD economy down the drain???

Check the red circled part on map below.

With AL traitors its always job well done!.

 

[LaBong]

Well said Abir !!!

@ In 2005 once British partitioned Bengal you said, "Bango matake bhaga jabena" and you created lot of patrioit song like "Ebar tur mora gange ban utheche joy ma bole"?.

True.

@ But the same people when British and Muslim wanted a Bengal intact you made a conspiracy to make it separated and you became successful.

True to some extent as well. Calcutta based elite were afraid of the possibility of losing their political clout in an undivided Bengal. Direct Action Day fueled the fear. Although there was strong anti-partition feeling in common mass.

@ Once the Bengalee people were struggling for their language movement in the then East Pakistan you gave support but you never dared to make your mother tangue "Bengalee" as state language of India.

I guess you meant National language of India. FYI, there is no national language in India. Hindi and English are the official language of Govt of India. Bengali is the state language of West Bengal and Tripura and co-official of Assam.

@ And today, you have made us pro Jamatee !!! How long you people will make conspiracy about our country ? Earlier, I requested you to join with us, we will make a greater Bengal you regrated. You said something, " Waton hamara hai Hindustan". Good ! Good! be remain with your "Waton" why you people interfere in our internal affair. It is we will decide what to do.

People West Bengal and Bangladesh chose different path for them, and I respect BD for their choice. No one is making any conspiracies against you, we only seek for what is good for us. Certainly Bengalis of Federal Republic of India wouldn't want a mini-Pakistan cropped up next door.

And no, we didn't say "Waton hamara hai Hindustan", we speak Bengali.

 

[PRACTICAL PATRIOT]

" Ai khane to kobi nirob, amarrotu akoi kotha" means "here the poet is silent, I have the same question to you". Regards, Welcome "Babu moshai".

so you are suggesting me that a country which has more than 40 % poors (according to our educated neighbours) is just troubling BD for fun with engaging our so super effective RAW and other resources??

do you think we dont have any better timepass to do?

come up with something logical next time

 

[Fasih Khan]

I sometimes wonder if President Yahya Khan should have allowed the scheduled Pakistan Parliament session on 25th March 1971 in Dhaka and discuss on how to separate the twins by a little agonizing operation that would have given a federal type of government for the two wings of Pakistan.

Mujib was under arrest in a Layalpur jail in 1971, but Yahya Khan never tried to meet and do something that could have kept the wings together. It seems it was Yahya Khan himself who forced us a separation although people blame Sk. Mujib.

Mujib fought for Pakistan as a student leader before 1947 in Calcutta under the leadership of Suhrawardy, who became a Pakistan PM in 1957/58. Mujib was his right hand muscleman, who caused the deaths of some non-muslim miscreants in 1946 action day in Calcutta.

His style did not change when he caused the death of Deputy Speaker Shahed Ali in the east Pakistan Parliament. He hold a wooden chair and smashed it on the head of the DS. Unfortunately for the daughter of the DS, it was her wedding day. After this occurrence, all the chairs and tables have been fixed to the floors in the Parliament.

Anyway, we cannot weep on the broken Pakistan for long. But, we expect our leaders and PMs not to bend in front of Indian pressure. However, Hasina is bending herself willingly. I hope she is as unbendable as her father was and there are some hidden agenda behind her India appeasing smiles that will help BD in the long run.

Great Thoughts ... Yahya Khan was a Characterless Culprit, who caused Separation of East Pakistan from West. Bhutto and Mujib played their parts, Sadly.

 

[somebozo]

Great Thoughts ... Yahya Khan was a Characterless Culprit, who caused Separation of East Pakistan from West. Bhutto and Mujib played their parts, Sadly.

West position in east greatly reduced to that of colonial power thanks to the mentality of our British trained army..The BD's found themselves free from clutches of English colonialism into grip of Pakistani colonialism.

The situation deteriorated very rapidly due to racist attitude of leaders on west side. The west never tried to reconcile with the east via some pact or even offer post separation support perhaps a union of joint economic and security interests. Instead we ran off to UN boycotting BD entry, to the Arabs to expel all Bangalis holding BD passport and printing new currency to bankrupt Bangladesh.

Imagine even little post separation support and recognition of new country would have given us a very strong strategic leverage in the east despite secession and would make a strong care of our moral support to Kashmirs on international front. But we acted in a shameful manner which left a fertile ground for India to play it all..classic case of goat thrown to lions.

1971 was the year when Jinnah's Pakistan collapsed because the birth of Jinnah's Pakistan started from the East.

 

[Skies]

@ As because, his forefather has given blood for East Pakistan (Bangladesh).

@ Because, Bengalees people are his brothers.

@ Because, we fought together for a common goal in thirties and counties.

@ He wants to save the people of Bangladesh from the clutches of Indian hegemony.

@ He intend to warn his younger brother about the incoming danger.

@ Finally, he wants to take the revenge with the help of younger brother so that in future she never dared to do so and his and his younger generation is save and sound in future.

Sir, Jana Ji is a female. I took me long time to know whether she is male or female at the beginning.

 

[Screambowl]

Begum non-Hasina is so much pro-Indian that she does not feel ashamed about it. It is because Indira Gandhi gave her shelter after her parents were killed. Now, she wants to sell the interest of the country. But, she will certainly face the music in the next election. People are tired of her arch-like bend towards her foster mother's country.

I dont understand what BD wants actually? Destruction of India and Prosperity of Pakistan??? Is that what your interest is all about???
Let me be very clear.
You can afford a generator I can afford a generator, but sir those who are much more poor condition than us think about them. We will not suffer but they will suffer. All this Islam, Jehad, all these things looks good when you have enough money to support your cause. A middle class, a poor man and a farmer man will not be concerned about your so called pro Indian or <pro Pakistan or Pro Al Halili walili Bullshit things. He just needs money to run his house and family peacefully.
Don't talk **** here. And be mature. We Indians have also gone through many troubles and many hurdles. But we never cried and if we cried we cried for a reason thats diplomacy. Don't think that one will provide you something for free and you will get everything in your bowl sitting on sofa in an air conditioned room.

 

[somebozo]

I dont understand what BD wants actually? Destruction of India and Prosperity of Pakistan??? Is that what your interest is all about???
Let me be very clear.
You can afford a generator I can afford a generator, but sir those who are much more poor condition than us think about them. We will not suffer but they will suffer. All this Islam, Jehad, all these things looks good when you have enough money to support your cause. A middle class, a poor man and a farmer man will not be concerned about your so called pro Indian or <pro Pakistan or Pro Al Halili walili Bullshit things. He just needs money to run his house and family peacefully.
Don't talk **** here. And be mature.

They just want to be free of foreign grips over their country..First the English then Pakistan and now India.

 

[Screambowl]

They just want to be free of foreign grips over their country..First the English then Pakistan and now India.

and you are not asked.

 

[LaBong]

Abir,

@ We donnot hate Hindus at all like the Pakistani, we do visit the "Puja Mondak" and take "Prasad", we enjoy all these customs since our childhood but the fact is once we read , hear from our father that Hindus used to torture us, hate us, misbehave us etc it is really pathetic. Some of the facts I want to share you :

@ In those days during the British times when all most all the Jamindars were Hindus in East Bengal, it was difficult to observe the "Eid" festible. In many areas(Barisal) people were not allowed to slaugter cows rather it was a punishable offence. As an evidence there were many cases in the history book. These things you will not find in your history book.

@ Muslim children and boys were not allowed to read in the "Patshallas" made by the Hindu Jamindars. The Muslim boys used to go in the "Muktoms" to learn but that too limited to religious teaching. It is on that day muslim boys could go to schools to learn modern education.

@ In those days Bengalee Muslims were identified as "Musulman" instead of Bengalee. Sometimes if there was a football competition in a school, people used to say that a competition between the Muslims and Bengalees. Soon "Muhamadan" sporting club was formed and and it purely became a religious oriented club.

@ No common Muslims were allowed to take sweets in any Hindu hotels. They used to take/eat outside of the hotel and used to take water with two hands together instead of glass.

@ Later on in the schools Muslim students were not allowed to wear "Pajama/Panjabi" and "Lungi", rather they were forced to wear "Dhuti". It happened with my father(1943/45) also, he is still alive. Muslim students were not allowed to sit on the front benches, they used to sit at the back. Some times it was alleged that the Hindu student used to get bad smell of onion from the mouth of Muslim student.

@ No Muslims were dared to cross any Hindu House weaing any long cloth it should have to lift up of feet. It means Muslims were treated just as like low caste Hindus. There were many many examples. The people of West Pakistani had no such experiences as major part of Pakistan was annexed in 1846/49 by the British we Bengalees of East Wing had all these inhuman experiences. Majority of Muslims in this region were "Vestiwalla", "Kathuria"(Wood cutter) and "Proja"(Tenant).

@ So once Bengal was partitioned and Muslim Leaque was formed each and every muslim people supported it which was manifested in the election 1946.Surwardi, Ak Fuzlul Haq were the main two Muslim Leaque leaders of Bengal. Jinnah was regarded as "Pir" in those days in Bengal by the common people. What to talk about Bengalee Muslims even the "Hindu Tafseries"(Low Caste Hindu) used to respect them. Jinnah had so much confident upon these "Hindu Tafseries" that even he agreed for a Referendum for keeping the Bengal intact. In those days no body dared to stand in front of Jinnah.Even Surwardi and Fuzlul Haq hesited to talk in front of Jinnah.

By your own admission some Hindus treated same as Muslims. It's just rich oppressing poor and has nothing to do with religion. Hindus and Muslims have been living in Bengal since ages without the need of hacking each other off. As Muslims made the bulk of poor, they faced the burn more than Hindus.

But for every bigot Hindu or Muslim there was a tolerant Hindu/Muslim. For every pathshala that didn't allow Muslims, there was a pundit who taught in Madrasa or Moulavi sahib who taught Farsi in primary school. Remember this is the land of Lalon and Sri Chaitanya and a Buddhist state once, tolerance is ingrained in the society. The north Indian/Pakistani version of two-nation theory is void here, you guys yourselves proved that.

So, this hatred between Muslims and Hindus to remain some more times till people like Abir modern/progressive comes up and people like us pro-jamatees as per you version goes away.

But although people like Abir has come up but unfortunately his attitude and behaviour is much more dangerious than those of old Hindu Zamindars. He is so cunning that even God herself is in a delima !!!!

This just a forum. I'm cunning for sure but I don't let my intelligence to run wild in Internet.

 

[eastwatch]

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One question..If AL was all that nationalist and concerned about growing disparity between east and west then why did Mujeeb turned to Indian friendly dictatorial rule ruthlessly killing and looting own people and taking the BD economy down the drain???

Mujib lost much of his grip on the events of a new Bangladesh because he was kept arrested in west Pakistan and therefore, could not lead the war. The country was so devastated. There was no money or gold in the govt coffer. Mujib govt started with $36 donated by someone. You know the answer where our gold and dollars fled to.

The country struggled hard to get out of the devastated ruins that have been inflicted in the war. But, it was not to be. Then there were political uprisings. To stop this, Mujib built a Paramilitary Rakkhi Bahini that killed about 36, 000 JASHAD (socialist) workers.

The country was without a functional administration. Food was in short supply. Finance Minister Tajuddin was flying high in the sky with his dreams of a socialist Bangladesh. USA ships full of grains sailed back from our shore, it did not want to help a country that hosted and praised Fiedel Castro in its land.

BD did not cut off relationship with Cuba even at the insistence of USA. USA punished BD by not giving any food aid. About 300,000 people died of starvation. BD's name came again in the front page of newspapers throughout the world due to this famine.

His opponents took the opportunity to kill him and his family mambers. There were probably 18 killings. But, Mujib himself was not responsible for many of those evil things that made him unpopular.

 

[Md Akmal]

I dont understand what BD wants actually? Destruction of India and Prosperity of Pakistan??? Is that what your interest is all about???
Let me be very clear.
You can afford a generator I can afford a generator, but sir those who are much more poor condition than us think about them. We will not suffer but they will suffer. All this Islam, Jehad, all these things looks good when you have enough money to support your cause. A middle class, a poor man and a farmer man will not be concerned about your so called pro Indian or <pro Pakistan or Pro Al Halili walili Bullshit things. He just needs money to run his house and family peacefully.
Don't talk **** here. And be mature. We Indians have also gone through many troubles and many hurdles. But we never cried and if we cried we cried for a reason thats diplomacy. Don't think that one will provide you something for free and you will get everything in your bowl sitting on sofa in an air conditioned room.

@ How dare we are, that we want destruction of India ? Only we want for God sake go away from us and let us think independantly how much help we need from India. Whether we are mini-Pakistan or mini-India or mini-China or min-Bangladesh, it is we will decide ?

@ You are talking about which air-conditioned roon, alas ! we had all of those USA made air-condition which your army had stoled in 1971.

 

[Md Akmal]

so you are suggesting me that a country which has more than 40 % poors (according to our educated neighbours) is just troubling BD for fun with engaging our so super effective RAW and other resources??

do you think we dont have any better timepass to do?

come up with something logical next time

Dear Fasih Khan,

Please teach this, to my Indian friend about the Stragecal reason for which India is trying to have an influence on us. I know, Pakistani people have a very good knowledge about the stregical geopolitical importance.