Featured Delhi Muslims fear they will never see justice for religious riot atrocities

[jamahir]

Har chor yahi kehta hai ki main chor nahi hoon.

- PRTP GWD

What I said is what I know of myself.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

No. How do you think Progressive Muslim governments and movements are subverted by the Western governments ? It is by supporting and enabling highly emotional, non-rational "Muslims" like you.

subvert this, subvert that. meanwhile you have been subverting by the communist intelligence agencies and here you are chatting rubbish. you are speaking of what muslims should and shouldnt do when you know full when you cant prove any of it with undisputed islamic evidence. max you could do is find what some deviant like Gaddafi or Nasser said.

You have mentioned the Islamic Golden Age somewhere in this thread. I have watched one Pakistani intellectual speak about Muslim dominance of that time, actually Turkish dominance, was destroyed. He said that it was a fatwa by some mullah against the printing press. Your positioning is not so different than that mullah.

whats this got to do with anything. my brain is hurting talking to murtads.

 

[jamahir]

whats this got to do with anything. my brain is hurting talking to murtads.

Your brain hurts from your inability to think logically, rationally, humanely.

max you could do is find what some deviant like Gaddafi or Nasser said.

Yes, "deviants" who were acted against by Western governments who in turn placed literalist and non-context-understanding mullahs and mullah supporters like yourself into power.

Below is a recollection by Nasser :

“The parties were dissolved, and we clashed with the Muslim Brotherhood party, during the four years, in 1953 and in 1954 … We were embroiled in dispute, they declared war against us, and they shot at me on October, 26, 1954 in Alexandria … Terrorist members in the Muslim Brotherhood party were arrested, and they were judged,” Nasser said during the statement.

“In 1954, we were negotiating with the British [forces occupying Egypt at the time] for the evacuation [deal]. At the same time, the Muslim Brotherhood members were holding secret meetings with the members of the British Embassy. They were telling them: we will be able to seize power,” Nasser said.

So, as ever, the mullahs are boot-lickers of NATO / Western governments.

you are speaking of what muslims should and shouldnt do when you know full when you cant prove any of it with undisputed islamic evidence.

What undisputed ? Do you want me to post a thread of mine which is an article by an Indian Christian woman who married an Indian Muslim under Islamic marriage law because that better secured her economic future in case of divorce ?

OK, here it is. This is real Islam.

 

[padamchen]

Oh so now they are 'our' Muslims

Bas Kar Yaar

Indian SM is swimming in a sea of poison and hatred

The attempt to feign unity in such a toxic communal shithole is humourous if nothing else

You might still get some clowns here and there braying on about secularism and one India bit in reality it's dead and it's been dead for a longtime


At the moment you have the illusion of one people but under the surface things ha become set in stone

And Indian Muslims need to defend their people and community and stop be fooled by bullshit about united india

It's normal English usage man. Our Muslims Yani ki Indian Muslims.

As opposed to Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims.

Who is feigning anything?

Are you important enough to feign anything? Don't kid yourself.

All I said was the Indian Muslims are under no illusions as far as Pakistani Muslims are concerned.

Zero bhaichara hai. Khunnat lekin kaafi hai.

They know this is the only land they have. Baaki saare Musalman mulk naam ke waaste bas.

No one is gonna take in 200 million Muslims.

They are going to have to sink or swim with us.

Capiche?

Cheers, Doc

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

Your brain hurts from your inability to think logically, rationally, humanely.

Allah determines what is rational, logical and humane. not commie shits like you, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Gaddafi, Nasser, Assad, Russia, etc.

Yes, "deviants" who were acted against by Western governments who in turn placed literalist and non-context-understanding mullahs and mullah supporters like yourself into power.

as if only western governments are the source of evil and supporters of shaitan.

So, as ever, the mullahs are boot-lickers of NATO / Western governments.

some mullahs are deviants, some are sellouts. not all.

OK, here it is. This is real Islam.

real Islam is all of it. its not a buffet where you can pick nikah rules and reject political aspects of islam in favour of communism.

 

[jamahir]

Allah determines what is rational, logical and humane.

Example please.

not commie shits like you, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Gaddafi, Nasser, Assad, Russia, etc.

All I can say is you are embarrassing Muslims. You are a zealot. Like I said to you two days ago, I can only hope for Grandfather Time to mellow you.

A final thought. If you don't like Mao you can ask PM Khan to cut Pakistan away from China.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

Example please.

since you come from a muslim background, dont act like you dont know. if you dont, your parents did a terrible job teaching you your religion. should have put a copy of the Quran in your hand instead of the crap Marx wrote.

The kufr of one who rules according to other than what Allaah revealed - Islam Question & Answer

islamqa.info

All I can say is you are embarrassing Muslims. You are a zealot.

at least i am a muslim, unlike you.

A final thought. If you don't like Mao you can ask PM Khan to cut Pakistan away from China.

Mao is dead. i am not the one who worships him. you do. baade aaye aman ki aasha le kar. you love a guy that killed 10s of millions of people, and then you are talking about world peace and all the bullshit you commies espouse. dreamer, murtad, fool.

 

[jamahir]

Mao is dead. i am not the one who worships him. you do. baade aaye aman ki aasha le kar. you love a guy that killed 10s of millions of people, and then you are talking about world peace and all the bullshit you commies espouse. dreamer, murtad, fool.

I have neutral view on Mao. I will ask @TaiShang to answer you about the alleged killing by him of tens of millions of Chinese, but I discovered that Tibet before Mao's troops entered it, was a feudal society with cruelties like how in India had the zamindari system with oppressed peasants and Pakistan still has. This article speaks the truth about Tibet before 1959, before the arrival of Mao's troops :

Tibet seems like as a celestial paradise held in chains, but the west's tendency to romanticise the country's Buddhist culture has distorted our view. Popular belief is that under the Dalai Lama, Tibetans lived contentedly in a spiritual non-violent culture, uncorrupted by lust or greed: but in reality society was far more brutal than that vision.

Last December, Ye Xiaowen, head of China's administration for religious affairs, published a piece in the state-run China Daily newspaper that, although propaganda, rings true. "History clearly reveals that the old Tibet was not the Shangri-La that many imagine", he wrote "but a society under a system of feudal serfdom."

Until 1959, when China cracked down on Tibetan rebels and the Dalai Lama fled to northern India, around 98% of the population was enslaved in serfdom. Drepung monastery, on the outskirts of Lhasa, was one of the world's largest landowners with 185 manors, 25,000 serfs, 300 pastures, and 16,000 herdsmen. High-ranking lamas and secular landowners imposed crippling taxes, forced boys into monastic slavery and pilfered most of the country's wealth – torturing disobedient serfs by gouging out their eyes or severing their hamstrings.

Tashi Tsering, now an English professor at Lhasa University is representative of Tibetans that do not see China's occupation as worse tyranny. He was taken from his family near Drepung at 13 and forced into the Dalai Lama's personal dance troupe. Beaten by his teachers, Tsering put up with rape by a well-connected monk in exchange for protection. In his autobiography, The Struggle for Modern Tibet, Tsering writes that China brought long-awaited hope when is laid claim to Tibet in 1950.

After studying at the University of Washington, Tsering returned to Chinese-occupied Tibet in 1964, convinced that the country could modernise effectively by cooperating with the Chinese. Denounced during the Cultural Revolution, arrested in 1967 to spend six years in prison and labour camps, he still maintains that Mao Tse-Tung liberated his people.

Caught between a system reminiscent of medieval Europe and a colonial force that brought forced collectivisation and similar human rights abuses, Tibet moved from one oppressive regime to another.

During the 1990s, Tibetans suspected of harbouring nationalist tendencies were arrested and imprisoned and in 2006, Romanian climbers witnessed Chinese guards shooting a group of refugees headed for the Nepalese border. China's abhorrent treatment of "political subversives" has rightly spurned a global Free Tibetmovement, diminishing the benefits that it did bring to society.

After 1959, it abolished slavery, serfdom and unfair taxes. Creating thousands of jobs through new infrastructure projects, it built Tibet's first hospitals and opened schools in every major village, bringing education to the masses. Clean water was pumped into the main towns and villages and the average life expectancy has almost doubled since 1950, to 60.

Even so, in 2001 the Dalai Lama said: "Tibet, materially, is very, very backward. Spiritually it is quite rich. But spirituality can't fill our stomachs."

Freedom for Tibet is not simply a case of liberation from China and the reinstatement of traditional values. Around 70 per cent of the population lives below the poverty line and enhanced spirituality alone will not improve economic conditions. Poverty is not quaint no matter how colourful the culture and the Tibet question is one that should be addressed from a rational, rather than an idealised viewpoint.

Nearby Bhutan, which has a similar Buddhist culture that it tried to preserve by banning television until 1999 and limiting foreign visitors, only held its first democratic elections in 2007. The Dalai Lama now promotes democracy, but Tibet may well have looked worse than it does today if the old order had been left to its own devices.

And you don't like Aman Ki Asha ?

 

[padamchen]

since you come from a muslim background, dont act like you dont know. if you dont, your parents did a terrible job teaching you your religion. should have put a copy of the Quran in your hand instead of the crap Marx wrote.

The kufr of one who rules according to other than what Allaah revealed - Islam Question & Answer

islamqa.info

at least i am a muslim, unlike you.



Mao is dead. i am not the one who worships him. you do. baade aaye aman ki aasha le kar. you love a guy that killed 10s of millions of people, and then you are talking about world peace and all the bullshit you commies espouse. dreamer, murtad, fool.

@PakistaniAtBahrain @jamahir @xeuss @Bagheera

Wouldn't it be a lovely idea if rich subcontinental Muslims or industrial houses could organise conclaves in a neutral country like Bahrain or Dubai for subcontinental Muslims to come to and meet and discuss their issues and eat together and possibly do some cross border procreation as well? Annual or once every X years.

There must be so much you want to say to one another outside the feverish battle zones of the subcontinent.

Maybe setup a Hindustani Ummah. With a formal charter. And rules of engagement.

We are after all talking about one third of world Islam. Time you guys stopped playing second and third fiddle to the countries of the ME.

Can you imagine the power you would wield?

Cheers, Doc

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

And you don't like Aman Ki Asha ?

you like how Mao achieved aman ki asha? you want to kill 10s of million through prison camps, starvation, torture, mass execution, etc in order to achieve it?

I have neutral view on Mao.

Mao has killed far more than FSA, Al Qaeda, Taliban, etc. more than all of them combined. you hate them, but the peace-loving commie has a neutral view on Mao. oh, how peace-loving of you, my dear commie.

@PakistaniAtBahrain @jamahir @xeuss @Bagheera

Wouldn't it be a lovely idea if rich subcontinental Muslims or industrial houses could organise conclaves in a neutral country like Bahrain or Dubai for subcontinental Muslims to come to and meet and discuss their issues and eat together and possibly do some cross border procreation as well? Annual or once every X years.

There must be so much you want to say to one another outside the feverish battle zones of the subcontinent.

Maybe setup a Hindustani Ummah. With a formal charter. And rules of engagement.

We are after all talking about one third of world Islam. Time you guys stopped playing second and third fiddle to the countries of the ME.

Can you imagine the power you would wield?

Cheers, Doc

your verbal diarrhea makes no sense to me. filled with fallacies and stupid arguments. just keep your opinions on muslim matters to yourself.

 

[jamahir]

@PakistaniAtBahrain @jamahir @xeuss @Bagheera

Wouldn't it be a lovely idea if rich subcontinental Muslims or industrial houses could organise conclaves in a neutral country like Bahrain or Dubai for subcontinental Muslims to come to and meet and discuss their issues and eat together and possibly do some cross border procreation as well? Annual or once every X years.

There must be so much you want to say to one another outside the feverish battle zones of the subcontinent.

Maybe setup a Hindustani Ummah. With a formal charter. And rules of engagement.

We are after all talking about one third of world Islam. Time you guys stopped playing second and third fiddle to the countries of the ME.

Can you imagine the power you would wield?

Cheers, Doc

Good idea, though Algiers, Tunis, Damascus and Cairo are more neutral than Bahrain and Dubai.

you like how Mao achieved aman ki asha? you want to kill 10s of million through prison camps, starvation, torture, mass execution, etc in order to achieve it?

Let's wait for TaiShang to reply.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

Let's wait for TaiShang to reply.

sure, whatever. there is not one commie you hate. all are angels.

 

[padamchen]

your verbal diarrhea makes no sense to me. filled with fallacies and stupid arguments. just keep your opinions on muslim matters to yourself.

Why so salty?

Cheers, Doc

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

Why so salty?

Cheers, Doc

i aint salty. i am in a good mood. i read your comment, felt like taking a shit. i am always in a good mood after a good shit.

piss off, Doc.

 

[magra]

If it was Padamchen, even with his caustic tongue and difficult attitude, I will save him.

Thats good. Just wondering why you could not just say that you will save the Indian. That would please Padamchen more.