Defending Militancy: Why they kill civilians, attack the state

[Ahmad]

What do you mean sir who ever is enemy of Islam we have to fight him and take him out

You retaliate if against non muslims if they attack us, i got you on that. BUt what is your opinion if we muslims attack the others with no provocation, what is your position on that? will you condemn that act or glorify it?

 

[ashokdeiva]

What do you mean sir who ever is enemy of Islam we have to fight him and take him out

Define the word enemy?
In case the rest of the religion or athesim increases in the world and the population of Islam becomes a minority and you see that Islam can not rule the world, then you'll consider the others as enemy to make Islam win, will you attack others and glorify such an attack

 

[Twain Shakespeare]

I want no part of any sect which justifies killing of innocents and bombings of people offering prayers as happened in Jamrud. Killing of Muslims who some people believe may have gone astray is Khaarji belief. They considered Hazrat Osman (RA) and later even Hazrat Ali (RA) to be ‘Wajib ul qatl’.

I believe that Khaarjis were declared being outside the Umma hence the name Khaarji. I would rather be called a kafir than agree to killing of innocent human beings.

As a "kaffir" and a "falsafah," I thankyou.
Unitarian philosophy in the West believes that whatever in religion promotes human well-being comes from an all loving creator. What does not promote human well-being is human error, rather it is simply from ignorance, or from malice.
As a falsafah, I think that if a principle supports our well being, it should be kept until something better comes along. If it does not, something better should be found.
Judging from history, Judaism, Christianity and Islam have all benefitted human well being by enlarging our focus from the tribe to the creation of the Umma or beloved community, but now these two projects for uniting humanity by "conversion" are fighting out the end game, and if there was ever any real human benefit to the idea of some people being Kaffirs or goyim, THERE IS NO LONGER!
I am human. Every human, from ther baby abanded to the homeless starving, from the greediest kleptocrat to the most brutal killer, is kin to me.
Family, what can you do? Maybe say what Isa said to Miryam, "Woman, what have you to do to me?" (The Gosples do not record her no doubt lengthy answer)

 

[Sinnerman108]

You retaliate if against non muslims if they attack us, i got you on that. BUt what is your opinion if we muslims attack the others with no provocation, what is your position on that? will you condemn that act or glorify it?

The exact words used are " Against the oppressor and in favor of the oppressed "

A Muslim has the following rights on another muslim;

1. When I will sneeze and Thank God, other will reply.
2. When I will ask for help , he will help
3. when I will die, he will attend / arrange my funeral prayer and bury me.

 

[Zarvan]

You retaliate if against non muslims if they attack us, i got you on that. BUt what is your opinion if we muslims attack the others with no provocation, what is your position on that? will you condemn that act or glorify it?

I will see their purpose if the want to spread Islam and do not kill innocent civilians than it can be right Mr

 

[humanfirst]

I will see their purpose if the want to spread Islam and do not kill innocent civilians than it can be right Mr

No sir,no offensive jihad can be done without killing innocents who fight to preserve their culture/honour/religion..

 

[Zarvan]

No sir,no offensive jihad can be done without killing innocents who fight to preserve their culture/honour/religion..

Offensive Jihad can be done only by killing the main enemy which is soldiers our government leaders Sir who ever will fight will be considered as soldier not civilian

 

[Ahmad]

The exact words used are " Against the oppressor and in favor of the oppressed "

A Muslim has the following rights on another muslim;

1. When I will sneeze and Thank God, other will reply.
2. When I will ask for help , he will help
3. when I will die, he will attend / arrange my funeral prayer and bury me.

I dont understand why you posted this to me? what was the relevance? it wasnt even my question.

 

[Ahmad]

I will see their purpose if the want to spread Islam and do not kill innocent civilians than it can be right Mr

I mean what if we attack other governments and countries first?

 

[Zarvan]

I mean what if we attack other governments and countries first?

I am also talking about the same sir

 

[Ahmad]

I am also talking about the same sir

Well, i cant understand this, if we attack the others first with no provocation, then that is right, but if the others attack us, that is wrong? dont you think it is double standards?

 

[ashokdeiva]

Well, i cant understand this, if we attack the others first with no provocation, then that is right, but if the others attack us, that is wrong? dont you think it is double standards?

Ahmad, Most of the Time I find it real hard to understand his post. He says one thing and then the next thing does not have due relevance to the earlier post.

 

[hasanJ]

Well, i cant understand this, if we attack the others first with no provocation, then that is right, but if the others attack us, that is wrong? dont you think it is double standards?

100% Double Standards and delusion

 

[Zarvan]

Well, i cant understand this, if we attack the others first with no provocation, then that is right, but if the others attack us, that is wrong? dont you think it is double standards?

When I said thats wrong but they should not cry when will hit the back it will hard and really very very very very very hard or may be they are completely wiped out

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100% Double Standards and delusion

Sir I never said they should not attack us when they will get a chance they will attack us but than they should also not cry when we will hit back because we will hit back and hit back really very hard Sir

 

[Ahmad]

When I said thats wrong but they should not cry when will hit the back it will hard and really very very very very very hard or may be they are completely wiped out

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Sir I never said they should not attack us when they will get a chance they will attack us but than they should also not cry when we will hit back because we will hit back and hit back really very hard Sir

come on man, you dont understand my point or just want to pretend you didnt understand? What if we attack them with no provocation? what is your stance on that?