Dawn of a new era as Su-57 enters service

[Bilal9]

Why not go for both?

You cannot. Either/or binary proposition.

If you go for quality you cannot have quantity - and vice versa.

I suggest you study the histories of the Russian Air Force and also the USAF.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Yes it is but your argument about su57 is being build only for to target terrorists is really really stupid its Russian answer of US f-22/J-20 which are mainly air superiority 5th gen jets ground attacks are always their secondary missions

It is Russian answer to F-22. Both Su-57 and F-22 will never see any air to air combat anyway so they are used only for ground attack ops. Ditto F-35. Unless Japan uses F-35 to fight for Kuril islands.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

It is Russian answer to F-22. Both Su-57 and F-22 will never see any air to air combat anyway so they are used only for ground attack ops. Ditto F-35. Unless Japan uses F-35 to fight for Kuril islands.

why you always bring japan on every Russian thread??? and they Designed to be a air superiorly jets first, it doesn't matter they didn't involved in any air to air combat against the enemy in recent history, do you know what is the reasons to start a project of ATF And PAK-FA project???

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

do you know what is the reasons to start a project of ATF And PAK-FA project???

Jobs mainly. There is no more Russian manned combat jet after Su-57. It is last one.

Ok but how about engine of both jets su57 has so much exposed engine (metal) whereas F35 has minimal/treated engine to reduce RCS

Exposed or not makes no difference. Radar can penetrate paint and get to metal underneath paint. There is titanium underneath all combat jets. There is no way to hide engine from radar.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Jobs mainly. There is no more Russian manned combat jet after Su-57. It is last one.

you're troll and brainless, its about emerging threats Mig-29/Su-27 development (ATF) and as for
PAK-FA it has first mission to defend the country from attacking jets like F-22/F-35/ RAFALE/EFT/Grippen etc etc
and upcoming US/EU 6th gen jets

and how do you know that Su-57 will be their last manned jet??? are you from Russian ministry of defense???

 

[Leishangthem]

Russia has nukes. I don't think any country will be invading Russia anytime soon, not even Japan which claims Kuril islands. So Su-57 is used for bombing terrorists.


Why not go for both?

Japan has 21 tons of (separated ) plutonium, that could be used in a weapons program if Japan ever decided to exercise that option. It's enough to bomb the world 50 times over.
The nuclear threat isn't an option against Japan.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Exposed or not makes no difference. Radar can penetrate paint and get to metal underneath paint. There is titanium underneath all combat jets. There is no way to hide engine from radar.

Are you aviation expert??? its not a pure titanium but titanium alloys/composite

 

[Tom_Cruise]

Russia has nukes. I don't think any country will be invading Russia anytime soon, not even Japan which claims Kuril islands. So Su-57 is used for bombing terrorists.

So because Russia has nukes it has no need for air defence fighters, despite building a stealth air superiority fighter?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

and how do you know that Su-57 will be their last manned jet??? are you from Russian ministry of defense???

The first Russian combat jet after Su-57 is Su-70. It sure ain't manned.

Sukhoi S-70 Okhotnik-B - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[White and Green with M/S]

The first Russian combat jet after Su-57 is Su-70. It sure ain't manned.

Sukhoi S-70 Okhotnik-B - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

ITs not a fighter jet you troll but UCAV (unmanned combat air vehicle) does this UCAV can carry payload and sensors like Su-57???

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

ITs not a fighter jet you troll but UCAV (unmanned combat air vehicle) does this UCAV can carry payload and sensors like Su-57???

It carries more payload and has better range. Targeting system is Platan EOTS which is used on Su-34.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/g5dgr0

Su-34 attack jet's Platan fuselage mounted EOTS includes thermal and laser

T220 EOTS pod was derived from Platan.

defence.pk

 

[White and Green with M/S]

It carries more payload and has better range. Targeting system is Platan EOTS which is used on Su-34.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/g5dgr0

Su-34 attack jet's Platan fuselage mounted EOTS includes thermal and laser

T220 EOTS pod was derived from Platan.

defence.pk

so it will not able to fight air to air combat because it has no radar its mainly ground attack UCAV, and how much it can carry as compare to lets say Su-25 and what is range as compare to Su-25

 

[KAL-EL]

Japan has 21 tons of (separated ) plutonium, that could be used in a weapons program if Japan ever decided to exercise that option. It's enough to bomb the world 50 times over.
The nuclear threat isn't an option against Japan.

Japan should reverse its constitution and go nuclear immediately.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

so it will not able to fight air to air combat because it has no radar its mainly ground attack UCAV, and how much it can carry as compare to lets say Su-25 and what is range as compare to Su-25

No need to fight air to air. Let me ask you, which country invades Russia? None. Su-70 is used for bombing terrorists in Syria.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

No need to fight air to air. Let me ask you, which country invades Russia? None. Su-70 is used for bombing terrorists in Syria.

Do you know which country will attack China or USA or UK or France??? this is stupid question, this is not Su-70 but S-70, do you read the wiki article says its 6th gen UCAV of Russia not a fighter jet