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Go through post made by DBC . . . U will found his contribution is really good.



I think people are unnecessarily making the whole thing a pride issue here. What we need to realize here is that F-18 is overhyped and didn't live upto expectations. So, its time to move on and not damage Indo-US relations by ranting on same thing.
 
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Full story: DefenceDog: MiG Failed But Not Forgotten: MMRCA Defeat…

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  • But the Americans relentlessly exposed the yard. And not just naked politics brazenly interfered in the matter. Washington is very sparingly and reluctantly goes to the transfer of technologies, preferring, where possible, to trade "finished textiles”. From Pentagon officials it is literally necessary to draw out permissions to the transfer of technological documentation. Although US aircraft manufacturing giants, are not averse to share technology with third countries - that's triple profit: for the current supply, for consulting and engineering for future sales, whose logic is due to the choice of know-how. U.S. willing to sell finished products, with detailed instructions for use (however contrary to this contract - a fancy system of restrictions on the use of weapons and launched).
  • In addition, there is considerable suspicion that if Republicans win the presidential election in 2012 and withdrawal of Obama from the White House; warm US-Indian friendship may cool down in favor of more "traditional" allies of Washington, like the same arch rival of Delhi - Islamabad. Because of U.S. policy of isolationists, & provided that US is never shy when it comes to what they consider "national interest", India has to seriously consider the likelihood of a negative scenario, in which she risks a virtual standstill with the United States in the middle of the implementation of offset programs.
  • Leaking confidential & technical information to Russia about the US planes, being supplied to Indian air force, may inhibit Americans in limiting the transfer of information at an early stage of the tender.
  • One thing that other competitors don’t posses is the ability to mass produce complex equipment like AFAR (in a short notice), that is so easily achieved by Russians & the Americans. It seems that both Paris and London promised something to Delhi; in fact, they (probably) promised a lot, and the promises were convincing. It's not hard to guess that in order to sell something that doesn't exist yet, the seller must make extra discounts.
  • Much more likely to clinch Russia is China, who clearly intends to get into this same market of cheap light aviation with its "Fierce dragon” FC-1, also known as the JF-17. But that's a separate story, the more so in the Celestial Empire, with its relatively low-tech engine (remember that export JF-17 is so far flying on the Russian RD-93).
 
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India Fighter Deal Accelerate

Indian Defense Minister AK Antony says India's much-Anticipated choice in ITS Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) program Could Occur Before the end of March 2012.

India wants to expedite the deal in part because Pakistan is expecting a speedy delivery of 50 JF-17 aircraft, which originally were to be spread out over two years, according to defense ministry officials. India wants to expedite the deal in hand Because Pakistan IS expecting a speedy delivery of 50 JF-17 aircraft, Which Were Originally spread out to Be over Two Years, According to Defense Ministry Officials.

Pakistani Defense Minister Ahmad Mukhtar has been quoted saying that his country is seeking delivery within six months of the JF-17 Thunder single-engine multirole fighters, which were developed by China and Pakistan. Pakistani Defense Minister Ahmad Mukhtar has-been quoted Saying That His Country is Seeking delivery Within Six Months Of The JF-17 Thunder Multirole single-engine fighters, Which Were Developed by China and Pakistan.

A Pakistan air force spokesman says the first batch of these aircraft will be handed over to Islamabad within weeks. A Pakistan Air Force Spokesman says the first batch of aircraft thesis Will Be Handed over to Islamabad Within weeks. The agreement to expedite the delivery came as Pakistan's prime minister, Yousuf Raza Gilani, held talks in Beijing on May 19. The agreement to expedite delivery The cam as Pakistan's prime minister, Yousuf Raza Gilani, Held talks in Beijing on May 19.

Antony has expressed discomfort over this development. Antony has perp discomfort over this development. “It is a matter of serious concern for us. "It Is A Matter of Serious Concern for us. The main thing is, we have to increase our capability — that is the only answer,” he says. The hand thing IS, We Have to Increase capability o - That Is The Only answer, "he says.

Last month, India short-listed the Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale for the estimated $11 billion contract to provide 126 fighter jets (Aerospace DAILY, April 28). Last month, India short-listed The Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale The estimated $ 11 for one billion contract to Provide 126 fighter jets (Aerospace DAILY, April 28). India rejected Boeing's F/A-18E/F and Lockheed Martin's F-16. Boeing's F/A-18E/F India Rejected and Lockheed Martin's F-16. Russia's MiG-35 and Saab's Gripen also were shut out. Russia's MiG-35 and Saab Gripen's aussi Were Shut Out.

The Indian air force is buying the MMRCA to replace its aging Soviet-era MiG-21 fighters, which date back to the 1960s. The Indian Air Force is buying The IS MMRCA to replace aging Soviet-era icts MiG-21 fighters, Which dates back to the 1960s.

“The negotiation for crucial commercial terms will begin next month,” says Michael Christie, senior vice president at BAE Systems India. "The negotiation for key commercial terms begin next month Will," says Michael Christie, senior vice president at BAE Systems India. BAE is part of the Eurofighter consortium, along with Alenia Aeronautica and EADS. BAE IS Part of the Eurofighter consortium, Along With Alenia Aeronautica and EADS.

The first 18 jets will be bought in “fly-away” condition, and the remainder will be produced under license with a selected vendor in India. The first 18 jets Will Be bought in "fly-away" condition, And The Remainder Will Be Produced Under License With A selected vendor in India.

According to sources close to the project, the government has initiated negotiations with the bidders on offset requirements. According To Sources Close To The Project, The Government has Initiated Negotiations With The Bidders are offset requirements. India has fixed offset obligations at 50%, requiring that half of the deal's worth be reinvested in Indian industry. India has fixed at 50% offset obligations, requiring half of the deal That's worth Be reinvested in Indian Industry.

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India goes full steam to finalize $10.4bn jet deal




NEW DELHI: Rejecting the carping by those ejected out of the hotly-contested $10.4 billion MMRCA (medium multi-role combat aircraft) race, most notably the US, India is going full throttle to ink the "mother of all defence deals'' by December.

The aim is to ensure that deliveries of the 126 fighters begin from December 2014 onwards to stem IAF's fast-eroding combat edge. Top defence sources, in fact, said plans were afoot to base the first MMRCA squadron in the western sector, most probably at Ambala, by end-2015.

The first 18 jets will come in "fly-away condition" from the aviation major -- only Eurofighter Typhoon (EADS) and French Rafale (Dassault) are now left in contention -- finally selected for the project.

Subsequent batches of the 108 fighters, to be manufactured in India by Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) after transfer of technology, will progressively be based in other operationally relevant locations, with special focus on the eastern front with China.

"The first fighter built in HAL should roll out in December 2016. Thereafter, HAL will deliver six jets per year, which will go up to 20 per year later. HAL will achieve 85% technology absorption by the end,'' said a source.

With plans clearly chalked out, MoD ruled out any scope for comebacks by the eliminated four fighters -- American F/A-18 'Super Hornet' ( Boeing) and F-16 'Super Viper' ( Lockheed Martin), Swedish Gripen (Saab), and Russian MiG-35 ( United Aircraft Corporation).

With only Typhoon and Rafale left in the reckoning after the "gruelling and transparent'' technical and flying evaluation, MoD's Technical Oversight Committee (TOC) and Technical Offsets Evaluation Committee (TOEC) are now working to submit their reports soon.

"We should be ready to open the Typhoon and Rafale commercial bids in July,'' said the source. Thereafter, it will take another month to determine the lowest bidder (L-1) because of "huge mathematical and data verification'' of the lifecycle costs of operating the jets over a 40-year period. Commercial negotiations with the L-1 vendor will then begin before the final contract is ready for signing by December.

Asked about "points'' being raised by eliminated vendors, sources said only Rafale and Typhoon were found "compliant'' on all the 643-660 technical attributes or ASQRs (air staff qualitative requirements) laid down to meet IAF's specific operational requirements.

"Our test pilots flew 222 sorties, over 270 hours, on the six fighters in different weather conditions in India and abroad. Each vendor was informed of its jet's performance at every stage... they have no reason to complain,'' the source said.

But what about the crucial AESA (active electronically scanned array) radar, which is operational only on American fighters at present? MoD said the ASQRs did "not require a flying AESA radar''. Instead, vendors had to demonstrate "a baseline radar model in flight or on a test-bed, the complete working model in a lab and how it would be integrated'' on the Indian MMRCA. "Five fighters, including Rafale and Typhoon, met this requirement,'' said the source.

Overall, MoD and IAF are confident there are "enough safeguards'' built into the project, which include "performance-based logistics'' to ensure India "gets the best machine, spares and product support''.


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"The first fighter built in HAL should roll out in December 2016. Thereafter, HAL will deliver six jets per year, which will go up to 20 per year later. HAL will achieve 85% technology absorption by the end,'' said a source.
This is sad...earlier this year MOD said that MMRCA will be inducted by 2020 but with thi rate i highly doubt this and what will happen if the number will increase and if IN also opt for same aircraft (which is very likely possible) ? then HAL will also wanna produce those aircrafts thereby reducing the rate of modernization of IAF...

I think either the HAL should increase their production rate or its better that a LCH or LUH and LCA projects should be given to private sector or sold to lowest bidder because HAL has no right to produce every aircraft that ADA/DRDO builds, this way we can improve our private sector and a competitiveness will arise in our domestic defence sector...
 
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And from the same magazine an excerpt of an report on EF:

Typhoon goes to war combat aircraft magazine vol 12, n°6

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An important showcase

Dassault' Rafale looked as if it had well and truly stolen the limelight in the Lybian operation. Rafales flew early CAP missions just as did Typhoons, but they were routinely flying in the air-to-ground role as well, providing exactly the 'swing role' capabilities demanded by force commanders. Rafale have been carrying the Reco NG reconnaissance pod and the Damocles targeting pod, have dropped AASM smart weapons, and launched an attack with Scalp cruise missiles. Moreover the Rafale have done all of this from both aircraft carrier and from land bases!. Impressive stuff.

Note, the author is not known to be a Rafale fan and still had to admit that it is impressive!
 
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And one more from the same magazine:

Saving Benghazi Combat Aircraft magazine; Vol 12 n°6

The leading role played by the French AF fast jets in the leading stage of the Lybia operation was daring and impressive

In November 1, 1911, an aircraft carried out an air raid for the first time in history. It took place during the ltalo-Turkish war, and the type was a French-built Bleriot XI flown by Italian military pilot 2nd Lt Guilio Guidotti who threw Cipelli Fragmentation grenades at troops occupying the Taguira and Ain Zara oases, east of Tripoli in what was then Tripolitania, now Libya. Fast forward 100 years to 2011, an air power was again bein deployed 'in anger' over Libya, albeit in rather more potent form — this time with France's "Armee de l'Air" leading the way.

As early as March 4, 2011, with the situation in Libya deteriorating, French military aircraft began to carry out surveillance and electronic warfare missions over the Mediterranean, alongside those of the US and UK. The aim, of course, was to build up intelligence relating to Libya's electronic order of battle and tap into its communications. After the Paris meeting organized by French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Saturday March 19, the other major members of the coalition being built up to impose a no-fly zone, British Prime Minister David Cameron and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, agreed to take part in the imposition of UN Resolution 1973. Much to the surprise of many observers, the participants in the summit had hardly left the Elysee Palace when French aircraft went into action.

Three sections of Rafale F3s from Base Aérienne (BA) 113 Saint-Dizier belonging to Escadron de Chasse 1/7 'Provence' took off from their home base at around 11.00hrs. The first four-ship consisted of single-seat aircraft in air defense configuration, each equipped with six MICA missiles — four MICA EMs and two MICA IRs — as well as three 1,250-liter drop tanks. Six minutes later they were followed by another two Rafales equipped with the Reco NG reconnaissance pod, while in the early afternoon a further two-aircraft section comprised one jet in close air support configuration toting four AASM (Armement Air-Sol Modulaire) inertial and CPS-guided modular bombs, four MICAS (again of EM and IR types) and two 2,000-liter drop tanks, with its wingman providing air defense cover in commbat air patrol fit.
At 15.00hrs that same day, two Mirage 2000Ds operated by EC 3/3 'Ardennes' at BA 133 Nancy-Ochey got airborne, armed with GBU-12 Paveway II and GBU-49 Enhanced Paveway II laser-guided bombs. They soon joined up with a pair of MICA- armed Mirage 2000-5F air superiority Fighters of EC 1/2 'Cigognes' which had departed BA102 Dijon. Naturally, an E-3F -AWACS from BA701 Avord an, for maritime patrol and ELINT duties, an Aeronavale Atlantique ATL2 were already on patrol, while six C-135FR tankers belonging to Groupe de Ravitaillement en Vol (GRV) 93 'Bretagne' had taken off from BA 125 lstres in support of the French fast jet assets.
The first mission over Libyan territory as a long and, given the circumstances, Wiring one. The Rafales engaged in setting up the CAP maintained a 60 x 40nm air superiority zone under the control of the orbiting E-3F, while their CAS counterparts opened fire on and destroyed four Libyan government tanks which were about to enter the rebel-held Benghazi area. Close surveillance of the locality was carried out by the two Rafales with the Reco NG pods, the imagery from which was downloaded during their flight back to Saint-Dizier. These valuable images were to be shown as soon as possible to the highest government authorities. After a sortie lasting more than six hours, all aircraft involved returned safely to their home bases.

Meanwhile, two anti-aircraft and air defense frigates of the Marine Nationale, the Jean-Bart and Forbin, were patrolling off the Libyan coast. These ships would, as reported elsewhere, soon be joined by the Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier and its escort and protection ships, the Aconit and Dupleix frigates, as well as the fleet refueling tanker Meuse and a nuclear attack submarine.
A heavy logistical effort was necessary in parallel with France's combat operations. C-160 Transalls on the strength of ET 1/61 `Touraine' at BA 123 Orleans and ET 1/64 'Bearn' at BA105 Evreux carried the equipment required to detach Armee de l'Air combat aircraft to BA 126 Solenzara on the island of Corsica, regularly used as the host airfield for gunnery training exercise deployments. Solenzara thus began to act as another'aircraft carrier/ in the middle of the Mediterranean.
The following days saw Armee de l'Air assets again assuming a leading position in what the French have called Operation 'Harmattan'. During the night between the fourth and fifth days of the commitment, Rafales fired SCALP EG cruise missiles for the first time at night as part of a 20-aircraft raid against a Libyan government base in the Tripoli area. And on March 24 came the notable incident when an on-station E-3F detected a Libyan Arab AF G-2 Galeb flying towards its base at Misrata, whereupon a section of Rafales was sent after it, leading to the Galeb being destroyed by an AASM as it was about to land. An aerial victory (nearly) obtained using an airto-ground weapon: quite a novelty!
In answering a message of congratulation sent by an Armee de l'Air general, the station commander of BA113 Saint-Dizier, Col Michel Friesling, noted that operation 'Harmattan' had seen the air force fighting from its bases in the mother country and in Corsica for the first time since 1940. In the first instance, this had been made possible by the outstanding capabilities of the Rafale, brought to the fore in the fight against Gaddafi's regime.

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How does the Rafale and the Eurofighter have attracted Indians

On May 25, 2011 by Guillaume Lecompte-Boinet


The Indian tender for the purchase of 126 fighter aircraft has entered a new phase. The one named by the Indian Ministry of Defense, the competition between the final Dassault Rafale Eurofighter trio EADS-BAE-Finmeccanica. Back on the conditions of a tight duel.

In the face-to-face Rafale Eurofighter, now there is no question of flight tests. The manufacturers of the two fighters will refine their business proposals and bids for technology transfer.

The Indians give themselves a few months to decide and give their decision here theoretically - March 2012. Theoretically, because all the specialists of India know that in this country, time has a different value in the West. Some tenders have lasted several years or even decades before a contract duly signed.

That is why the French and Germans were surprised at the relative speed with which Indian officials have selected the final Rafale and the Eurofighter-Typhoon, represented by EADS Germany. Between the launch of the tender in late 2007, and this decision, it took just four years.

This period, which may seem long, is quite normal when you have to test six have very different: in addition to the Rafale and the Eurofighter-Typhoon, there was the F / A 18 of Boeing, Lockheed Martin F 16 of the Gripen Saab's Swedish and Russian MIG 35.

The flight evaluations, which took place during the spring and summer of 2010, lasted over a month for each aircraft in the running. Everyone went to the tail-leu-leu, the F / A 18 and F 16, the Gripen, Rafale, Typhoon finally Mig.

All configurations were tested: flight at high altitude, low altitude, desert environment, emergency landing, stop and restart the engines ...

Similarly, the Indians fired weapons, missiles and cannon. They combed through the deployment capabilities of their aircraft maintenance crews and mechanics, for example with a timing of exposure time-table motors.

Any cancellation of a flight for technical reasons - and it can happen in this kind of evaluation - was taken into account. According to some sources, the Rafale and Typhoon have scored valuable points on such criteria. "A potential customer is not only a fighter super-efficient, it also wants a reliable machine whose user cost is reasonable to at least 30 years ", says an expert.

The planes were also in contention to face Indian MiG in simulated dogfights. And for this to be possible, the Indian pilots had to make in each country concerned to train on simulators and actual flight.
Dassault has received on its site at Istres in early 2009, more than a year before the assessments themselves. Un vrai marathon ! A real marathon!

Indeed, the winner of the competition will have a tight schedule to deliver the first aircraft since the Indians have indicated the desire for 2014. However in general it takes at least three and a half years to develop the first copy of a hunter bought by a foreign country.

The reason: there are always additional developments requested by the client country, including on-board systems. On n'a pas fini d'entendre parler de cette compétition. We have not heard the last of the competition.

Comment le Rafale et l'Eurofighter ont séduit les Indiens - Aéronautique


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Planes, graft and national security


India must hasten the process of combat aircraft acquisition to meet the dual challenge posed by Pakistan and its ‘all weather’ friend China.

At a time when the credibility of the Manmohan Singh regime lies in tatters, thanks to the scandal-a-day allegations of corruption that it faces, the recent announcement of the Government, narrowing the list of qualified bidders, on the acquisition of 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft has, happily, not invited any accusations of corruption, cronyism or nepotism. This is unquestionably because of the impeccable reputation for honesty and probity that Defence Minister AK Antony enjoys in India and abroad.

But, many like former National Security Adviser Brajesh Mishra aver that our defence procurement procedures are “antiquated and excessively time-consuming”. They argue that Mr Antony’s fixation with his ‘image’ of impeccable integrity, (he is often jocularly referred to as Saint Antony!), has resulted in serious delays in procurement of vital defence equipment, ranging from Army helicopters and 155 mm Howitzers, to combat aircraft and submarines. Mr Mishra warns that our defence planners have to note that since 2008 the China-Pakistan “all weather friendship” has become a “military alliance directed against India”, against which “we may have to defend ourselves at the same time”.

The Indian Air Force has a sanctioned strength of 39.5 combat squadrons. Barely 29 squadrons are operational at present. Some of them are equipped with aircraft of 1960s and 1970s vintage. Even with scheduled acquisitions, we will have 39.5 operational squadrons only in 2017. We will then find that facing the China-Pakistan alliance the IAF requires a minimum strength of 45 combat squadrons.

Pakistan’s Air Force presently has 22 combat squadrons. It is set to acquire 10 to 12 squadrons of JF-17 and a couple of squadrons of J-10 fighters from China. The latter is an Israeli variant of the F-16. The Chinese Air Force already has 350 ‘fourth generation’ fighter aircraft and is set to have an estimated 300 such combat aircraft based in the Lanzhou and Chengdu Military Regions bordering India. Despite these developments, we have proceeded at a rather leisurely pace with our defence modernisation, though in its growing fleet of Russian Sukhoi 30s, the IAF has one of the finest contemporary fighters.

India has adopted a transparent process of tendering for acquiring the MMRCA. The bids came from Russia (MiG-35), Sweden (Grippen), France (Rafale), the US (F-16 IN and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet) and the European Eurofighter Consortium, comprising Germany, Britain, Italy and Spain, for the Typhoon. Over the past two years, dozens of senior IAF officials have gone through each of these bids meticulously to see how far they fulfilled the 643 parameters the Air Force had laid down.

The aircraft offered have been put through rigorous flight tests in Leh (high mountainous terrain), Jaisalmer (hot desert terrain) and Bangalore, across the coastal belt. A high-level Technical Evaluation Committee laid down the guidelines for offsets India expects from suppliers, with the manufacturers required to effect substantial transfer of the aircraft’s technology in an effort to boost India’s aerospace industry which lags seriously behind its Chinese counterpart.

Following the rejection of the Grippen and MiG-35 bids, New Delhi recently announced that both the American aircraft, the F-16 IN and the F/A-18, had also failed to meet the IAF’s requirements. The Americans argued that their fighters alone possess the unquestionably superior AESA radar, which gives them a combat edge. Moreover, the Americans have looked at the entire MMRCA acquisition in larger strategic terms.

American analyst Ashley Tellis, an expert on Indian defence and nuclear policies, asserted, “The winner (of the MMRCA contract) will obtain a long and lucrative association with a rising power and secure a toehold into other parts of India’s rapidly modernising strategic industries. The aircraft will play a vital role in India’s military modernisation as the country transforms from a regional power to a global giant.” There is ‘disappointment’ in Washington, DC at the rejection of American bids, especially as President Barack Obama had personally lobbied with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on this issue. Hopefully, the Americans will understand that on issues like the acquisition of the MMRCA, India will not yield to external pressure.

Even the Americans acknowledge that both their warplanes are of relatively old vintage and cannot be upgraded any further. On the other hand, both the Eurofighter and the French Rafale are relatively new and can be upgraded substantially in future. With Pakistan already flying F-16s for over quarter of a century, there was little enthusiasm for the F-16 IN, even though it was a much more advanced version of what the PAF flies. The F/A-18 failed in high altitude flight trials in Leh in early 2010. Its acquisition would have placed us at a disadvantage when facing the Chinese Air Force. In some flight evaluations, the Grippen also performed better than the F/A-18. Moreover, India has found US conditions of end use monitoring of equipment it supplies irksome. Serious doubts also remain about American readiness for transfer of technology, which could substantially benefit our aerospace industry.

The US has little reason to complain when it loses out in the face of international competition. Defence deals with India, even during Mr Antony’s tenure, have been substantial and included 6 C-130J Super Hercules transport aircraft, 10 C-17 Globemaster transport aircraft and 12 Poseidon maritime reconnaissance aircraft, apart from the troop-carrying ship, Trenton. India is also set to purchase a substantial number of light howitzers for its Mountain Divisions and consider an offer of 197 helicopters for the Army after having scrapped a deal with Eurocopter following American protests.

Equally, there is no cause for our worthy Communists, who never tire of espousing the cause of the Chinese while turning a blind eye to China-Pakistan nuclear and military cooperation, to celebrate Mr Antony’s decision on the MMRCA. Mr Antony has inked more contracts with the Americans than any of his predecessors.

The Ministry of Defence appears to have understandably decided that cost will not be the primary consideration in the selection of the MMRCA. The Eurofighter was sold to Saudi Arabia at a cost of $123 million per aircraft — more than double that of its American and Russian competitors. The Rafale, priced at around $85 million, is also substantially costlier than its American and Russian competitors. The Eurofighter deal with Saudi Arabia was clouded with serious allegations of corruption and kickbacks. This should not be repeated in its dealings in India.

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The anger in Washington policy circles when the US fighter planes — the Lockheed-Martin F-16IN and the Boeing F-18 Super Hornet did not make it to the Indian Air Force’s Medium-range Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) shortlist, was a thing to behold. It was as if an ungrateful India had reneged on a done aircraft deal — just rewards for easing India’s entry on to the verandah of the five-country nuclear weapons club.

The American incomprehension with the Indian decision is itself incomprehensible. Lockheed and Boeing actually believed they would win with platforms of late 1960s vintage jazzed up with a downgraded Raytheon APG-79 (or even a de-rated “81”) version of the Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) look-down, ground-mapping, radar. The Indian Air Force is not the most advanced but its leadership, despite its flaws, knows when it is being palmed off with yesterday’s goods. Had Washington offered the Joint Strike Fighter, the F-35 Lightning II, the IAF would have jumped at it and the decision would have been hurrahed along by the Prime Minister, Dr Manmohan Singh. In the event, the French Rafale and the EADS (European Aeronautic Defence and Space) Company’s Typhoon Eurofighter progressed even as Lockheed and Boeing were sought to be pacified with two transport aircraft deals — the one for the C-130J making sense, the other for the C-17 not. Russia, likewise, was mollified with collaboration on the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA). To my consternated friends in Washington who sought an explanation, I offered an analogy. Some two decades back, the Daimler-Benz car company entered the Indian market with older Mercedes models, convinced the cash-rich yokels would splash good money for anything with the three-cornered star on the bonnet. The old cars, remained unsold and the investment in production jigs and tools in their factory in Pune went waste. The Germans quickly corrected course, offering the newest Mercedes models, available in Dusseldorf, in Delhi.

The sale of Rafale or Eurofighter to India is a lifeline to both the Dassault Company and the French aviation sector generally and the four-country consortium producing, so far unviably, the latter aircraft that an expert acquaintance dismissed as something “Germany doesn’t want, Britain can’t afford, and Spain and Italy neither want nor can afford!” But, leverage-wise, it affords India traction with four European countries instead of just France in case Rafale is taken. But is either of these aircraft genuinely multi-role?

Dr Carlo Kopp, an internationally renowned combat aviation specialist, deems the Typhoon, a non-stealthy, short-range (300 nautical miles) air defence/air dominance fighter optimised for transonic manoeuvres, more a “lemon” than a “demon”. Italian Air Force Chief Gen. Vincenzo Camporini, moreover, declared in 2008 that this plane was incapable of an “attack role in an economically sustainable manner”, in part because EADS has no AESA radar. It hopes to develop one with the infusion of Indian monies if Typhoon is selected. Realistically, India will not get the strike variant until well into the 2020s as the Royal Air Force and the German Luftwaffe, for starters, will have the first lien on it. In short, for over a third of its lifetime, the IAF will have to make do with the more limited air defence version which, in effect, is an avionics-wise souped-up, ergonomically improved, MiG-21! Moreover, to expect timely, coordinated, supply of spares and service support from 20-odd countries (including Croatia!) roped into the Eurofighter programme will be a compounded logistics and maintenance nightmare.

Rafale is a smaller, semi-stealth plane with slightly better un-refuelled range than the Typhoon but, equipped with the RBE-22A AESA radar, can undertake ground attack, including nuclear weapon delivery. Critically, it has finessed the algorithm (patented, incidentally, by an Indian scientist) for more effective fusion of data from numerous on-board and external sensors (such as satellite) better than the Eurofighter. Except, as late as 2009, Rafale was ruled operationally inadequate perhaps because it is less agile in “dogfighting” — a role the IAF brass remains enamoured with long after advanced tactical missiles have made close-quarter aerial battle history. Rafale and Typhoon nevertheless cost a bomb, with the MMRCA eventually coming in at around $20 billion.

The F-16 was rejected because, in part, the Pakistan Air Force flies it. By this reckoning, Pakistan may also access Typhoon and Rafale. EADS is trying desperately to sell the Typhoon to Turkey. If it succeeds, PAF will end up familiarising itself with it, if not actually benefiting from surreptitious transfer of its technologies. Trying to ramp up its defence sales, France has explored the sale of Rafale to Pakistan as has Russia the MiG-35 in order to compete with China for influence in Islamabad (which is not barred by any provision in the FGFA deal with India).

The MMRCA is a rubbish acquisition. The defence ministry followed up the questionable decision with a singular display of lack of negotiating savvy. With the MiG-35 option on the table, India could have played the Europeans off against the Russians to secure the best terms, even if ultimately for Rafale/Typhoon. Instead, there’s the appalling record of defence ministry officials and service officers repeatedly muffing deals, worse, acting as patsies for, or playing footsy with, the supplier states, resulting in treasury-emptying contracts that have fetched the country little in return.

Learning from the past, defence minister A.K. Antony had better instruct his negotiators to insist on only phased payments linked to time-bound delivery of aircraft and full transfer of technology (including source codes and flight control laws for all aspects of the aircraft), and on deterrent penalties that automatically kick in at the slightest infringement or violation of clauses deliberately tilted to favour India. Considering Delhi — prior to signing the deal — is in a position to arm-twist almost anything out of the supplier firms using the threat of walking out on the deal, the litmus test of a “successful” MMRCA transaction will be whether, by way of offsets, and notwithstanding the initial problems with absorbing advanced technology, the Indian defence industry has gained top-edge technological-industrial competence across the broad combat aviation front (rather than rights to mere licenced manufacture as in past deals).

Bharat Karnad is professor at the Centre for Policy Research, New Delhi.
 
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Although French fighters have been dropping concrete bombs (using a Paveway III guidance kit) in Libya, military officials want a more effective system. One topic of discussion is the purchase of Dual-Mode Brimstones from MBDA, although program officials note a final decision has not been taken. The Rafale would likely feature a basic integration of the weapon to speed fielding.

As I expected, Brimstone is more likely to be integrated on Rafale than on EF, just another proof not only about A2G capability, but on commitment of France to upgrade the fighter, compared to the EF partner countries!
 
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Does anyone know whether whichever ac is picked will come with HMDS as STANDARD? Is this mandatory as per IAF RFI requirements?

Effectively all fighters in the IAF will integrate such a system in the next 2-5 yrs (most TOPSIGHT-I)

However I do not know if either fighter has offered such tech as STANDARD or as an OPTION? I know a so called "starwars" helmet was offered as an option with EFT?

Below are current helmets for both ac, not HMDS, have not seen either ac serving with HMDS as standard in any AF yet:
Rafale
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EFT
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note what I want to know will ALL (including first batch delivered from producer ~2014 come with HMDS) as standard??
 
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