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[sancho]

The order is going to be split 100 each or maybe more between Rafael and SH. With Rafael comes TOT which helps LCA and MCA, with SH we get best AESA.

126 MRCA to be acquired from single vendor

Bangalore, Feb 8 (ANI): Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal S P Tyagi today said that technology and capability are of utmost importance for the acquisition of the 126 multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA), besides the numbers.

All the 126 aircraft would be of the same type, with one squadron being formed of the directly supplied aircraft from one source, and the rest would be developed here under licensed production. The aircraft would be acquired from a single vendor.

Calling procurement a complex procedure, Tyagi said here on the second day of the five-day sixth Aero India Show, "There's a requirement of numbers, but technology and capability are equally important. Numbers can be altered as and when required. There will be global competition, where multiple vendors will bid, but all the aircraft will be acquired from one source..."

126 MRCA to be acquired from single vendor

Old news, but it makes it clear again that MMRCA will not be splitted! The only point that is different from then is, that the IN might get an advantage from this competition and get some naval versions of the winner too. But they are not bound on it, have way more time and can chose that vendor, that offers the best for them.

 

[RPK]

UPDATE 1-Eurofighter leading race for India deal- ambassador​

1:09pm EST
* Eurofighter leading race for $10.4 bln contract
* Source says test flights expected to conclude by April
* India to order new refuelling ship from Finmeccanica
By Valentina Rusconi
ROME, Jan 22 (Reuters) - The Eurofighter Typhoon is "leading the race" to win a contract from the Indian government for 126 fighter jets, valued at around $10.4 billion, India's ambassador to Italy said on Friday.
"We have shortlisted four to five countries, then the trial process and evaluation will follow. Eurofighter is one of them, in which Italy is involved, and it's leading the race," ambassador Arif Shahid Khan told Reuters after a meeting with a senior aid to Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.
Boeing's <BA.N> F/A-18 Super Hornet, France's Dassault <AVMD.PA> Rafale, Lockheed Martin Corp's <LMT.N> F-16, Russia's MiG-35, Sweden's Saab <SAABb.ST> JAS-39 Gripen and the Eurofighter Typhoon, produced by a consortium of European companies <EAD.PA><BAES.L><SIFI.MI>, are competing for the order.
Defence industry experts do not expect an immediate decision.
A Eurofighter source said the test flights were expected to finish by April, and a decision would follow.
He also said German President Horst Koehler would visit India in early February to sign an agreement on defence, security and technology.
India is one of the world's biggest arms importers, and the government plans to spend more than $30 billion on defence upgrades over the next five years to counter potential threats from Pakistan and China. [ID:nDEL380118]
The ambassador said India would order from Italy's Finmeccanica <SIFI.MI> a refuelling ship, following the purchase of a similar vessel worth around $200 million. "We are really satisfied," he said.
The ambassador said Berlusconi would visit India this year and the two countries were discussing economic cooperation in other fields, such as agriculture. He said discussions were also underway for Alitalia to start flights between the two countries. (Editing by Rupert Winchester)
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UPDATE 1-Eurofighter leading race for India deal- ambassador | Reuters

 

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UPDATE 1-Eurofighter leading race for India deal- ambassador​

1:09pm EST
* Eurofighter leading race for $10.4 bln contract
* Source says test flights expected to conclude by April
* India to order new refuelling ship from Finmeccanica
By Valentina Rusconi
ROME, Jan 22 (Reuters) - The Eurofighter Typhoon is "leading the race" to win a contract from the Indian government for 126 fighter jets, valued at around $10.4 billion, India's ambassador to Italy said on Friday.
"We have shortlisted four to five countries, then the trial process and evaluation will follow. Eurofighter is one of them, in which Italy is involved, and it's leading the race," ambassador Arif Shahid Khan told Reuters after a meeting with a senior aid to Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.
Boeing's <BA.N> F/A-18 Super Hornet, France's Dassault <AVMD.PA> Rafale, Lockheed Martin Corp's <LMT.N> F-16, Russia's MiG-35, Sweden's Saab <SAABb.ST> JAS-39 Gripen and the Eurofighter Typhoon, produced by a consortium of European companies <EAD.PA><BAES.L><SIFI.MI>, are competing for the order.
Defence industry experts do not expect an immediate decision.
A Eurofighter source said the test flights were expected to finish by April, and a decision would follow.
He also said German President Horst Koehler would visit India in early February to sign an agreement on defence, security and technology.
India is one of the world's biggest arms importers, and the government plans to spend more than $30 billion on defence upgrades over the next five years to counter potential threats from Pakistan and China. [ID:nDEL380118]
The ambassador said India would order from Italy's Finmeccanica <SIFI.MI> a refuelling ship, following the purchase of a similar vessel worth around $200 million. "We are really satisfied," he said.
The ambassador said Berlusconi would visit India this year and the two countries were discussing economic cooperation in other fields, such as agriculture. He said discussions were also underway for Alitalia to start flights between the two countries. (Editing by Rupert Winchester)
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UPDATE 1-Eurofighter leading race for India deal- ambassador | Reuters

How can it lead without even completing the trials ?

 

[RPK]

Two Spanish Eurofighter Typhoon bring down 7 F-15 idrw.org

During recent exercises, NATO Air Forces carried out several training combat engagements known as DACT, Dissimilar Aircraft Combat training, involving different types of aircraft. In this situation, where the air dominance is a matter, the Eurofighter Typhoons turned out to be the leading air-to-air fighter jets.

Once again, the outstanding performance of the Eurofighter Typhoon was evident in a dogfight simulation. The 111 Squadron of the Spanish Air Force as well as the 493rd Squadron of the U.S. Air Force were deployed for training in ***** Air Base, Gran Canaria. The Spanish Squadron attended the training with a total of six Eurofighter Typhoons. The U.S. Air Force deployed F-15s.
In an interview on the exercise, Major Juan Balesta, the 41-year old Commander of the 111 Squadron stressed that a two-ship formation of Eurofighters involved in a dogfight simulation &#8220;against&#8221; the F-15s enjoyed full control of the engagement. The Typhoons managed to smash a formation of eight F-15s which had the role of the attacker with the first Eurofighter jet managing to &#8220;shoot down&#8221; four F-15 fighter jets. The second Eurofighter managed to disable three F-15 jets. Eventually the pilots were using the Eurofighter Typhoon to full capacity and taking advantage of its enormous capabilities. Trump that.

 

[skyisthelimit]

when will see the whole drama of trials and evaluation end? in short i mean when do we expect to have the final decision?

Go Go Eurofighter....

 

[AVIAN]

when will see the whole drama of trials and evaluation end? in short i mean when do we expect to have the final decision?

Go Go Eurofighter....

Key objective is not only to purchase the jet but also to encourage participating contenders to set up their business in India. And hence you can see so many JV's are getting birth since inception of MRCA between Indian private and Foriegn Firm. Saab despite fully knowing about its not having enough chance has form a JV with TATA to develop next generation fighter jet.

 

[skyisthelimit]

Key objective is not only to purchase the jet but also to encourage participating contenders to set up their business in India. And hence you can see so many JV's are getting birth since inception of MRCA between Indian private and Foriegn Firm. Saab despite fully knowing about its not having enough chance has form a JV with TATA to develop next generation fighter jet.

thats a very gud news....i am aware of it...these JVs will surely help indian firms...and at last indian govt will give a chance to private firms...we have for too long depended on ordnance and other PSUs which aint giving to much results either....we should also follow like USA....let private firms excel in defence....but control all exports from the same.

 

[sancho]

How can it lead without even completing the trials ?

Exacty and what does the ambassador say exactly?

"We have shortlisted four to five countries, then the trial process and evaluation will follow. Eurofighter is one of them, in which Italy is involved, and it's leading the race"

Russia, France, USA, Sweden and the EF consortiums countries are the 4-5 countries that are in the competition.
After the selection of all fighters that fulfilled IAF requirements (which was all), the trials have started and when they are over, there might be 2-3 shortlisted to the final evaluation.
So this is completely nothing new, only again a summary of what happend in MMRCA till the moment!
The only new info is the the EF is leading, but as you correctly said, it wasn't even at the trials yet, so the only point where he might had the lead, was after receiving the infos from all vendors.

The key for EF in MMRCA will be clearly its AESA radar development and A2G capabilities, without these it will have no chance.

 

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Typhoon is "Leading the Race" to Win Indian MMRCA Contract

Jan 22 (Reuters) - The Eurofighter Typhoon is "leading the race" to win a contract from the Indian government for 126 fighter jets, valued at around $10.4 billion, India's ambassador to Italy said on Friday."We have shortlisted four to five countries, then the trial process and evaluation will follow. Eurofighter is one of them, in which Italy is involved, and it's leading the race," ambassador Arif Shahid Khan told Reuters after a meeting with a senior aid to Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.

Boeing's (BA.N) F/A-18 Super Hornet, France's Dassault (AVMD.PA) Rafale, Lockheed Martin Corp's (LMT.N) F-16, Russia's MiG-35, Sweden's Saab (SAABb.ST) JAS-39 Gripen and the Eurofighter Typhoon, produced by a consortium of European companies (EAD.PA)(BAES.L)(SIFI.MI), are competing for the order.Defence industry experts do not expect an immediate decision.A Eurofighter source said the test flights were expected to finish by April, and a decision would follow.

He also said German President Horst Koehler would visit India in early February to sign an agreement on defence, security and technology.India is one of the world's biggest arms importers, and the government plans to spend more than $30 billion on defence upgrades over the next five years to counter potential threats from Pakistan and China. The ambassador said India would order from Italy's Finmeccanica a refuelling ship, following the purchase of a similar vessel worth around $200 million. "We are really satisfied," he said.

The ambassador said Berlusconi would visit India this year and the two countries were discussing economic cooperation in other fields, such as agriculture. He said discussions were also underway for Alitalia to start flights between the two countries.

ASIAN DEFENCE: Typhoon is "Leading the Race" to Win Indian MMRCA Contract

 

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[Supersonic26]

If its true then hurray but i doubt the news because i think some more jet fighters trial pending? If all trial done then i think italy testing the water. They know short after they say india will buy typhoon india will comment. Hmm. Lets see. Am all in favore of typhoon. There is no jet fighter that can take on typhoon. Only F-22 raptor superior.

 

[Roby]

already posted and discussion is going on here

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/45226-reuters-reporting-typhoon-will-win-mmrca.html

 

[faithfulguy]

If its true then hurray but i doubt the news because i think some more jet fighters trial pending? If all trial done then i think italy testing the water. They know short after they say india will buy typhoon india will comment. Hmm. Lets see. Am all in favore of typhoon. There is no jet fighter that can take on typhoon. Only F-22 raptor superior.

I thought MKI can take on Typhoon?