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Jamming Modes
The solid-state self-protection jammer

ELT might not ring a bell immediately, but a little digging will tell you that the Italian company has stakes in the multi-billion MRCA deal. Involved in the design and production of electronic warfare systems for defence and security needs, ELT or Elettronica has integrated its ELT/568(V)2 self-protection jammer onboard the Russian Aircraft Cooperation’s МiG-35 fighter. The solid-state self-protection jammer, a mock-up of which was at the recently concluded DSEi 2009 at London, ensures the aircraft’s self-defence from radar-controlled anti-aircraft artillery, air to air and surface to air missiles, as well as provides jamming of air interceptor radars.

The jammer is based on advanced system architecture and incorporates in-house hi-tech components to represent threat responsive solutions. The solid state jammer can operate in a very dense electromagnetic environment against pulse and CW threat emissions. Its power management concept is implemented through a threat tailored ECM response. The stand alone mode of operation jammer has a high degree of integration level with platform avionics and other onboard Defence aid systems. It has internal installations for high band and a slim-line pod for medium band. The system is basically a dual band self protection equipment requiring both internal and podded units to cope with the expected threat scenario. Its main features include its multi-threat tracking capability to effectively cope with simultaneous threats coming from any direction by its two features — Firstly, by exploiting its ‘Active Phased Array Antennas’ featuring electronic beam steering both during transmission and reception mode and secondly, by tailored and fully programmable jamming techniques and programs produced by a multi-role DRFM (Digital RF Memory). :azn:

As it has happened today, the systems in service today are increasingly dependent on mission support systems. ELT’s Electronic Warfare Operational Support has special emphasis on the design, development, and integration of EW operational support infrastructures together with simulation solutions for EW training purposes. These solutions are usually tailor made for
customers. ELT is mainly focused on developing the following:

EW database management systems based on flexible and open architecture, which allows the management of all EW data coming from intelligence agencies, ELINT Systems, recording systems, loaded into the system automatically and/or manually by operators.

Library Generation and Validations Systems: The system can generate and validate all libraries used by EW equipment installed on air, naval and ground platforms the library data generation system is based on modular design concept implemented by the Missiona Data Preparation Program (MDPP). Each MDPP allows the operator to create, modify, print and maintain, under configuration control, specific equipment libraries. The validation system incorporates both hardware and software sub systems, which can validate EW suite libraries and optimise them using a hybrid simulation bench.

EW Simulation applications for training purposes: the company has longstanding experience in the implementation of the EW training capabilities through specific hardware and software solutions. New Generation EW simulators provide high-fidelity models and powerful real time simulation. The training facility for EW operators, pilots, and experts to ensure full preparedness include Computer-based trainer, EW part task trainer, On board EW simulators and EW modules integrated as part of Full Mission Simulators. The above items can be integrated as part of full mission simulators.

EW Solutions for Mission Planners: the system allows planning of all aspects of an electronic warfare mission, including jamming, data collection and suppression. Also, it can assess the impact of mission planning on enemy sensors to enhance mission success. It provides route analysis tools to determine the best route in terms of user-selected objectives and constraints (e.g. threat analysis, route analysis). It also provides support to the mission planner for automatic and manual determination of optimum route based on terrain masking, threat parameters, threat location, platform Radar cross-section and onboard electronic sensor’s effectiveness.

Briefing and debriefing tools: These tools provide the operator with the capability to review/replay the recorded mission data for post mission analysis. In addition to providing standard download mission information, it covert it into the appropriate format and distribute such data to specific systems.

The company’s major order intake is the domestic market that is in Italy, besides it has an impressive presence in armed force of 28 nations in Europe, Africa, Middle East, South America and Oceania. The maximum order intake is for systems for fighter aircraft (41 per cent), followed by naval systems for ships (28 per cent). Its product line covers a whole range of Electronic Defense systems and equipment (SIGINT, ELINT, ESM, ECM, RWR etc) in the radar bands, as well as support and training

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IT'S LOOK LIKE IAF HAVE :"PAANCHO UNGLIYAN GHEE MEIN":lol::partay: and hand on their heads:undecided:
 
Talking to the press in New Delhi, Gripen’s India Director Eddy de la Motte said, “What we are offering here is the AESA radar which comes with an edge that increases its capability manifold times. The radar on the Gripen will be fitted on a swash plate that enables it to rotate mechanically and look behind as well.”

...look behind as well." :rofl: :rofl:

..I'm surprised they're willing to part with the source code - very surprised!
 
The number of the MRCA deal has been increased from 126 to 200, some reports indicated 210. The speculation is that the order will be split betw more than one vendor. All four candidates appear to be equally likely, this is going to be interesting.

LINK PLZ :yahoo:
 
ok sir
i want to see 100 rafel n 50 ef2000 in iaf colours
 
ok sir
i want to see 100 rafel n 50 ef2000 in iaf colours

Lol.. everyone would like see a 100 of both aircraft in the IAF. However the IAF will consider only one otherwise there would be a huge logistics, spares and commonality issue. Not a bad idea though... 100 Rafale and a 100 EF's.. Crazy!!
 
Lol.. everyone would like see a 100 of both aircraft in the IAF. However the IAF will consider only one otherwise there would be a huge logistics, spares and commonality issue. Not a bad idea though... 100 Rafale and a 100 EF's.. Crazy!!

You are right!
I reckon, we are moderate operator of Dassault made plane(Mirage 2000) and Master operator of migs(which plane? you name it!). so, we should go for either rafale or mig-35. And if we split order due to political decision than split between these two. Just my thoughts. :bounce:
 
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Lol.. everyone would like see a 100 of both aircraft in the IAF. However the IAF will consider only one otherwise there would be a huge logistics, spares and commonality issue. Not a bad idea though... 100 Rafale and a 100 EF's.. Crazy!!

so what about chingpang lui n his stretegikkkk partner:hang2::cheesy:
 
It was stated before that MMRCA will come from a single vendor and won't be splitted, which is the right move to reduce the logistics that IAF has now (6 different types of fighters + LCA next year and Sea Harrier of IN).
 
It was stated before that MMRCA will come from a single vendor and won't be splitted, which is the right move to reduce the logistics that IAF has now (6 different types of fighters + LCA next year and Sea Harrier of IN).

That is the IAF’s stated position. MoD will take the final call and I won’t be surprised if they do go for a split order to keep the cart rolling.

btw, Mig-35 has arrived in Bangalore!
 
That is the IAF’s stated position. MoD will take the final call and I won’t be surprised if they do go for a split order to keep the cart rolling.

btw, Mig-35 has arrived in Bangalore!
There is no real reason for a split, because only the Mig 21 Bisons will be left to replace (Mig 27, Mig 29, Mirage 2K and most likely all Jags will be upgraded). So if 126 is the total requirement, we would reduce the benefits that we could get (ToT, or other related deals) if we split the deal.
Any pics of the Mig 35 single seat? What about pics, or news about the teens, the Rafale and their performance so far?
 
News from the Brazilian competition!

Saab has today submitted an update on the proposal offering 36 Gripen Next Generation (NG) to the Brazilian Air Force.

The offer consists of a cost-effective solution, a comprehensive Technology Transfer and a unique competitive partnership between Brazil and Sweden...

Saab - Saab delivers the perfect match to Brazil
 
Broadsword

by Ajai Shukla
Business Standard, 16th Oct 09
New Delhi


The winner’s jackpot could soon become even bigger in what is already the world’s most lucrative fighter aircraft tender: India’s proposed purchase of 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) for an estimated Rs 51,000 crore ($11 billion).


The reason: a breakdown in India’s long-running negotiations with French aircraft manufacturer, Dassault Aviation, for upgrading 51 Indian Air Force Mirage-2000 fighters. According to senior IAF sources, Dassault has flatly refused to reduce its quote of Rs 10,000 crores (US $2.1 billion) for extending the service life of the IAF’s Mirage-2000 fleet by fitting new radars and avionics. The Ministry of Defence (MoD) considers this price --- Rs 196 crores (US $41 million) per aircraft --- unacceptably high, given that the airframes and engines will not be changed.


In comparison, each of the 126 brand-new, next-generation MMRCAs will cost some Rs 400 crores (US $87 million) per aircraft. That includes the cost of technology transfers, as well as capital costs for setting up a manufacturing line in India. Once those costs are amortised, additional MMRCAs would be significantly cheaper.


Dassault’s India head, Posina V Rao has not returned multiple phone calls from Business Standard. MoD sources say that Rao is engaged in last-ditch attempts to salvage the deal.


But, the MoD is veering around to the viewpoint that the Mirage-2000 fleet should continue service in its current form. After six squadrons (126 aircraft) of MMRCAs have entered IAF service, an additional two squadrons of MMRCAs would be built to replace the 51 Mirage-2000 fighters. That amounts to a 40% rise in the MMRCA’s numbers.


Israeli aerospace companies have reportedly entered the fray, offering to upgrade the Mirage-2000 for half the price being quoted by Dassault. The MoD, however, is not inclined to accept that offer.


Price negotiations for the Mirage-2000 upgrade have travelled a rocky road over the last two years. Initially, Dassault quoted Rs 13,500 crores (US $2.9 billion), which it brought down to the current level of Rs 10,000 crores (US $2.1 billion) after the IAF diluted its upgrade requirements. But the MoD believes Dassault’s reduced bid only reflects the diluted requirements, rather than any flexibility on the part of Dassault.


The IAF, traditionally a staunch supporter of Dassault and the Mirage-2000 fighter, is apparently changing its views. Dassault, say pilots, has badly damaged its credibility during the recent negotiations by arm-twisting the IAF over the supply of spares for the Mirage-2000 fleet.


The Gwalior-based IAF squadrons that currently fly the Mirage-2000 are Number 1 squadron (Tigers) and Number 7 squadron (Battle Axes).


Five of the six contenders for the MMRCA contract --- Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Eurofighter, Gripen and RAC MiG --- know they could reap handsome gains, through larger fighter orders, if India chooses not to upgrade the Mirage-2000. The sixth contender, Dassault Aviation, realises that failure to negotiate the Mirage-2000 upgrade contract could seriously damage the chances of its Rafale fighter in the MMRCA contract.


The fighters in contention for the MMRCA contract are sequentially undergoing flight trials and evaluation, which the IAF expects to complete by April 2010. It will take another six months to finalise the trial report and submit that to India’s MoD. The MoD will then announce the winner of the contract.
 
whats up with this french people, are they turning loco......
trying to arm twist india with just mirage upgrade is almost foolish , could hamper their chances to win mrca, i for one would really want rafale to win the competition
 
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