Well they are going to transfer F414 techs and had Viper or Hornet won MMRCA they would have transferred APG-79 or 80 techs to us. So why not 2052?
But not critical techs, especially not AESA or EW techs, which was one of the reasons their fighter were rejected ourright. The whole negotiations in the ATGM competition is also based on the fact, that the US don't want to provide us with reasonable techs for the licence production, while the Israelis are, just like in MMRCA they weren't while Russian (theoretically) and Europeans are as well. The EL 2052 is not an option as well because the US, which blocked it for India several times now. They denied Saab to use it in their MMRCA offer, they denied to use it in LCA and even deny co-developments with the Israelis based on that techs. So as long as that doesn't change, only less important stuff in smaller numbers will be procured from the US, while the big ticket procurements will remain with Russia, Israel and Europe.
Also it will make us the first AF in region to deploy 5th-gen jets.
No it doesn't, if that would be the aim we would go for early Pak Fa around 2016 and not F35s around 2018 and beyond.
yet what Industrial benefits will come from EFT that won't come with Rafale especially since they are not providing as much TOT as Dassault
They offered a full partnership, with access to all techs, production of parts for all EFs and export fighters..., not to mention that they can provide it through Airbus and BAE, 2 of the biggest defence companies in the world, which alone makes it industrially far different, than what Dassault could offer.
Also they offered us to take the lead in design and development of the naval typhoon as part of the consortium partnership, which also is an offer Dassault couldn't give, but since that version is not really capable and has zero export changes, that offer wasn't useful for India anyway. The Rafale M is in theory an option for IAC2, realistiacally however it isn't, since it lacks the twin seater that IN might require, has no folding wings which requires more space at the carrier and reduces the number of fighters that could be used and with the late induction of IAC2, anything else than a stealth fighter doesn't make sense anyway. So if we want to get something from Dassault for the navy, than it should be assistiance on developing a naval AMCA, rather than Rafale M.
The MMRCA required the first squadron to be delivered within 36 months of signing the contract. Let's say it took 2 years from finalization to signing of contact. So could they have developed the radar within 2-3 years?
As I said, with the required fundings it might have been possible, since they had developments going on based on AESA tech demonstrators, but it wouldn't had been as mature as the RBE 2 is now and might had been limited to A2A modes only at the begining.
And in terms of flight performance I'd say the difference b/w the finalists was negligible and more weapons are integrated into the DR as compared to EFT. Also if I'm correct your probably referring to TAURUS since SCALP is integrated on Rafale. The Shortlisting was done purely on basis of evaluation trial and technologies offered
Not really, performance whise the EF is clearly better. Be it speed in general, Supercruise capability, ceilling..., up to the fact that it can carry more METEOR in every role compared to the Rafale and that in a low drag & RCS config, and as I recently explained, the advantage of Rafales weapon pack is reducing currently, with AASMs future in doubt on the one side, Storm Shadow, Paveway IV and possibly Brimstone beeing added on the other side.
Rafale has only Scalp, EF will now get Storm Shadow (the sister of Scalp if you want) and later also Taurus, which were part of the EFs offer in MMRCA:
btw did it come with Raven at that time? cause unless I'm mistaken they were going for some other radar earlier.
With a tech demo varient of it, but the main AESA tests were done in Sweden anyway and the NG made only a few trials in India anyway, which makes the rejection actually pretty logical.
This is politics when in opposition you are supposed to oppose everything that ruling party does
Nope! First of all, there is no opposition when it comes to the defence of India, since the ruling government and the oppositions must have the same aim here.
What the opposition has to do is, to check the government decisions for irregularities and if found make them visible. But what the BJP did wrt Rafale and even before the shortlisting or selection of Rafale, was complete baseless ranting, only aimed at the fighter and Dassault actually. They didn't even really attacked the MoD, which shows that they do have some issues with the selection of Rafale, for whatever reasons.
You do realize that comparing Brazil and India is like comparing apples and oranges.
Not at all! It's even exactly the same game! The same fighters in the competition, initially even with the same priorities (capability of the fighter and strategic / industrial advantages), which resulted into clear preferences , but then were delayed to the elections, whith the government providing the decision to the next one. That then re-evaluated the decision once more with different prioities (which BJP is free to do now as well) and the final selection of a totally different fighter.
Not what I want, but what realistically can happen!