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[Windjammer]

Rafale would have been a winner had we chosen EFT...Leave them...

Unless you are incompetent to know the capabilities of the two. !!!

 

[Abingdonboy]

OH! this means Indian Airforce is screwed up by the kickbacks and bribery....The Frenchies are well known for their secret underhand dealingz....
The Rafael is nothing in front of EuroFighter.........India got screwedup BIGGGGG...TIMEEEE........

But your forget, we tested both out..... EFT winner by a long way.



What's there out out of ordinary dude..... good luck to you guys.

Well you guys were always going to say which ever one India got the other was better! For the IAF this ticked all th eboxes and best suited their needs. The IAF already has the MKI and will soon be getting the FGFA as air superiority fighters so MMRCA didn't need to be EFT which would tread on toes of MKI and FGFA but had relatively less A2G capability and unproven/undeveloped tech.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

GUYS even xinhua is reporting the news....

France's Dasault Rafale wins multi-billion dollar Indian fighter contract - Xinhua | English.news.cn


France's Dasault Rafale wins multi-billion dollar Indian fighter contract







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NEW DELHI, Jan. 31 (Xinhua) -- France's Dasault Rafale group has won a 10.4 billion U.S. dollar contract to build 126 MMRCA fighter for the Indian air force in 10 years, said local TV channel Times Now Tuesday.

The contract will be signed between the Indian Defense Ministry and Dasault Rafale in about six months' time, said the report quoting official sources.

India has chosen Dasault Rafale because it emerged as the lowest bidder among all Western fighter makers, much lower than the Euro-fighter price offer, said the report.

This will be India's biggest fighter deal, called "Mother of all arms deals" by local media.

 

[Roybot]

Son of a mother! finally.

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[KRAIT]

So what is the final bid??
Im sure that Dassault has taken a certain loss somewhere to get the big tamale..
But it is the best deal for ToT as the french are more involved in multiple contracts for India.
Not sure if it was the best deal diplomatically.. but nevertheless MBDA is a european company which will provide some sort of consolation prize for the losing states.

the biggest winner though.. is the rafale.. its like the graduate that has been sitting jobless for too long.. and suddenly has been posted to VP.

You are right, diplomatically this decision is not right. With submarine deal, engine development, mmrca, we have put all the eggs in one basket.
But, one cannot make some relaxations when country's defense is concerned. French were desperate to sell this aircraft. Both the contenders offered everything with no string attached, but EF have other customer, rafale dont, which make indians to ask more from french. Also as elections are approaching Sarkozy would have done anything for this deal.

 

[prabhakar]

Unless you are incompetent to know the capabilities of the two. !!!

when did PAF had evaluated EFT and Raffy EXTENSIVELY ?

 

[praveen007]

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[z9-ec]

the EFT supply chain could be inferior to that of the Rafale - RAF had issues with its EFT's during the libyan air-blockade. so the IAF planners seem to have done their homework. Rafale has one supplier Dassault whilst EFT is made by a consortium of countries and the SC could be a complex issue.

Another valid point. This hurdle may have tilted IAF to towards Rafale and eventually chose it. However, I still believe past relationship with Dassault and France may have had higher consideration.

 

[shuntmaster]

And dont forget the existing Mirage supporting infrastructure that can be upgraded to support Rafales..

yeah, and also it will be big help in the Kaveri Jet engine programme since there will be more incentive for snecma which is also a French company.
So, this decision is basically killing many birds with one stone (order)

 

[Black Widow]

OH! this means Indian Airforce is screwed up by the kickbacks and bribery....The Frenchies are well known for their secret underhand dealingz....
The Rafael is nothing in front of EuroFighter.........India got screwedup BIGGGGG...TIMEEEE........

I would appreciate you if you would have done some research before posting such comment. Both EFT and Rafael were equally capable. They were chosen last two. Final frontier was cost, In term of cost EFT lost the game.


Poor Euro, they didn't learn from their mistake. First they lost there engine to GE (GE won the contract to supply engine for LCA MKII by bidding lower price), now they lost there plane.

EFT is good Omni role platform with better Airsuperiority, while Rafael is good omnirole platform with better ground attack capability. Looking at the plane it will replace Rafael fit better than EFT. I always wanted Rafael to win it, I was heart broken when I heard the EFT lead earlier this month.

if the bidding difference is 2 bill USA then its a significant ammount.

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[z9-ec]

when did PAF had evaluated EFT and Raffy EXTENSIVELY ?

Rafale was evaluated extensively by PAF due to blockage by US over F-16s. PAF did not opt for it citing costs. EF was not.

 

[anathema]

Finally Finally - Its Rafale ..the French beauty.....is this official ?

 

[graphican]

Rafale is an unknown platform to every other air-force.. I don't have experties to compare a vs b but what I know from the available information is that its one "kick-@ss" platform. Also france will be doing complete transfer of technology and that means - kick-@ss++

Euro fighter might have a more recent airframe but on everything else.. its a pretty good match. IMHO.

 

[Splurgenxs]

So what is the final bid??
Im sure that Dassault has taken a certain loss somewhere to get the big tamale..
But it is the best deal for ToT as the french are more involved in multiple contracts for India.
Not sure if it was the best deal diplomatically.. but nevertheless MBDA is a european company which will provide some sort of consolation prize for the losing states.

the biggest winner though.. is the rafale.. its like the graduate that has been sitting jobless for too long.. and suddenly has been posted to VP.

im pretty sure Sarkozy sold of the TOT for all of there current technology base on Avionics and radars...Considering there economy and elections
im pretty sure itll help us a lot in our indigenous ventures..

Even maybe the Pak-fa.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

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