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Should we explore the possibility of us getting AIM-120D for MRCA and LCA along with METEOR..
The projected number of Meteor to be procured by Euro nations seems to be reducing..Chances are that it will become a tad too pricey..
USA seems to be excited about the latest variant of AMRAAM. If this is as capable and can be integrated easily to EF/Rafale , then imo we should go for it..We might get to produce it here...

Comments awaited....
 
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Should we explore the possibility of us getting AIM-120D for MRCA and LCA along with METEOR..
The projected number of Meteor to be procured by Euro nations seems to be reducing..Chances are that it will become a tad too pricey..
USA seems to be excited about the latest variant of AMRAAM. If this is as capable and can be integrated easily to EF/Rafale , then imo we should go for it..We might get to produce it here...

Comments awaited....

AIM-120D for LCA is fine, provided ELTA/2032 will support it for sure. MICAs & Meteor is fine for MRCA as US itself like to integrate Meteor for their fighters.
 
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Sorry posted in the wrong thread....But still since u asked according to some reports this is Force Motors Trishul lsv and it is selected by IA instead of AXE and Tata's LSV....

Sorry again friends....for more information look under Indian Amry thread....webmaster can u delete my previous post ??
 
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Well first we should shift this discussion to IA's thread and secondly mate Force Motor is known for making quality vehicles and if you ask me AXE wasn't a strong vehicle, i am talking about its body not engine. Also if IA went out of its way to select Force MOtor then i think the product must be good.
 
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Should we explore the possibility of us getting AIM-120D for MRCA and LCA along with METEOR..
The projected number of Meteor to be procured by Euro nations seems to be reducing..Chances are that it will become a tad too pricey..
USA seems to be excited about the latest variant of AMRAAM. If this is as capable and can be integrated easily to EF/Rafale , then imo we should go for it..We might get to produce it here...

Comments awaited....

Because? So far all EF partner countries (UK and ITA also for their F35s), French forces, Swedens air force, the Saudis for their EFs and most likely Switzerland for their Gripens wants METEOR. India, Brazil and most of all the UAE are highly interested as well and since all 3 Eurocanards will be offered with this missile now in any competition, the customer base will only increase.

The biggest advantage of METEOR is not range like many people think, but speed and that's where it will remain to be superior to the AIM 120D, although the range might be comparable. The speed advantage of the Ramjet propulsion reduces the no escape zone by far, because the missile will maintain the full speed from launch till impact, while normal missiles will have full speed only at launch. That means the higher the distance to the target, the higher the chances that it will be missed with the AIM 120 and that's why even current AIM 120s will be launched at way less distance, than it has on paper.

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Missile MBDA Meteor - YouTube

For India only MMRCAs will be useful for this missile, because it will be too costly (especially at the begining), not to forget that we have our own developments in the BVR missile and Ramjet propulsion areas. Later ASTRA versions are expected with such an propulsion too.
 
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Well first we should shift this discussion to IA's thread and secondly mate Force Motor is known for making quality vehicles and if you ask me AXE wasn't a strong vehicle, i am talking about its body not engine. Also if IA went out of its way to select Force MOtor then i think the product must be good.

Sorry to disagree with you re: Force Motors. At first glance, it seems to be another souped up Tempo Trax. In its time (like about a hundred years ago!) the Trax was considered to be good because of its drive-train and mechanicals. That was simply because Kinetic (the parent company of Force) had bought the entire Mercedes OM-616 engine and gear-box manufacture line and set it up in their Chinchwad plant. And at that time, it was outstanding. Now time has moved on, but have Force improved/upgraded the engine? Not sure about that, though they had got AVL from Austria to work on the engine and tweak it when the competition hotted up. I'll say this though; Kinetic was much inspired by the Mercedes G-Wagen in its design of the Trax (even in the looks department). But sadly, none of that was ever materially visible in the Trax. So it remained a rural "people-wagen" till even that role was taken over by Mahindra Commanders and Tata Sumos.

Being very familiar with the Kinetic/Force Motors both the organisation and design elements, I'm very sceptical that this Trishul (or whatever its called) is worth writing home (or anywhere else) about.
 
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^^^Force motors' copy of a chinese SUV launched here recently as the Force One uses a merc engine and TBHP mods said that the engine is the best feature of this crappy vehicle!
So,the "Trishul" must also have merc engines:)
 
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guys it's almost mid of december and still no clue about mmrca......any one?
 
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MMRCA procurement at contract negotiations stage: Antony

New Delhi, Dec 12 (PTI) The final cost of procurement of 126 Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (M-MRCA) for the Indian Air Force would be known after completion of negotiations and finalisation of the contract, the government told the Lok Sabha today.

In written reply to a question in the lower house, Defence Minister A K Antony said, "The proposal is now at the contract negotiations stage, and the final cost of procurement would be known only after completion of negotiations and finalisation of the contract."
He said the Defence Acquisitions Council had accorded Acceptance of Necessity for procurement of 126 M-MRCA at an estimated cost of Rs 42,000 crore in June 2007.

Replying to a query related to offset proposal of the contract, he said, "As per Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) 2006 these (offset) relate to direct purchase of defence products or services or direct investments with Indian offset partners as per the stipulated guidelines."
On modernisation of IAF''s transport and helicopter fleet, he said, "This includes induction of C-130J Transport Aircraft, C-17 Heavy Transport Aircraft, Medium Transport Aircraft as well as helicopters for various transport, recce and surveillance and operational tasks."
Antony informed the House that the operational capabilities of the IAF are reviewed periodically to ensure these are adequate to meet the security challenges.

On delivery of C-17 transport aircraft, he said, "All ten C-17 aircraft and their associated equipment are expected to be delivered to the IAF between June 2013 and June 2015."
Letters of Offer and Acceptance (LOA) have been signed with United States for procurement of ten C-17 Globemaster aircraft as well as six C-130J aircraft, Antony said.

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"The proposal is now at the contract negotiations stage, and the final cost of procurement would be known only after completion of negotiations and finalisation of the contract."
He said the Defence Acquisitions Council had accorded Acceptance of Necessity for procurement of 126 M-MRCA at an estimated cost of Rs 42,000 crore in June 2007.

With whom are we negotiating? or talking to both parties or the lowest bidder?
 
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