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Seems like the EF lost another competition this month:

Japan chooses F-35 as mainstay fighter jet: reports

TOKYO — Japan has chosen the US-made F-35 stealth jet as its next-generation mainstay fighter in a multi-billion dollar deal, reports said Tuesday.

The defence ministry picked the jet made by Lockheed Martin to replace its ageing fleet of F-4 jets over two rivals, the Boeing-made F/A-18 Super Hornet and the Eurofighter Typhoon, the Yomiuri Shimbun said.

Japan's biggest daily said the defence ministry had "agreed in principle" to select the F-35, with a formal announcement expected Friday at the Security Council of Japan, chaired by Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda.

Kyodo News cited unnamed government sources as saying the ministry had decided to buy 40 F-35 fighters, while the Nikkei business daily said only that the jet remained a "prime candidate"...

AFP: Japan chooses F-35 as mainstay fighter jet: reports

Japan to pick Lockheed’s F-35 as new stealth fighter

SEOUL — Japan is set to select the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II JSF as its new stealth fighter, Japanese media reported Tuesday, upgrading its air defense at a time when China and Russia pose growing threats to its territory...

...Japan will purchase roughly 40 fighter jets, the Yomiuri newspaper said, and as part of the deal, it will receive classified information about the F-35’s construction, allowing some of the fighter’s components to be manufactured in Japan.

The Japanese government will make a formal announcement about the decision on Friday, both the Yomiuri and the Kyodo news agency said. Japanese government officials often provide off-the-record briefings to the domestic media in advance of major decisions...

Japan to pick Lockheed’s F-35 as new stealth fighter - The Washington Post

If true, it leaves the EF consortium with India and Malaysia as only chances to get another export deal.
 
Dassault Aviation CEO comments on recent issues:

Rafale: "No gift by the State to Dassault Aviation"

INTERVIEW - Charles Edelstenne, CEO of Dassault Aviation, says the French fighter meets a need expressed by the staffs of the army and the cost of the program was under control...

...Specifically, what is your export market and how to explain
these failures?


The traditional market of French combat aircraft consists of countries that do not want to buy American aircraft or countries who want a double source. Competitions were held in South Korea, Singapore and the Netherlands. In these countries, the air forces were now only equipped with American planes. These countries have always had very close ties with the United States, for geostrategic reasons with respect to Korea or Singapore. For reasons of comfort in the Netherlands, a founding member of the European Union, but fierce supporter of the American preference for what is their combat aviation, remember the market of the century! We may have erred in taking part in these early competitions, where our chances were, from the start, rather limited. But if we did not, nobody would have understood. Each time, we removed the EF2000 and we ended up in the final against American planes...

...Specifically, where did you export your prospects?

The three files are the most advanced Arab Emirates, India and Brazil. Let's start with the UAE. Since 2008 we are in negotiations with that country. The UAE is a client partner who has always called upon to do better. Negotiations are continuing and the company is working to develop local partnerships, if the case ended Rafale, should strengthen the strategic relationship between our two countries on the basis of an industrial and technological cooperation extended around the Rafale.

In India, we are in the final stages against the EF2000 EADS. I will not comment on those negotiations, but I want to emphasize the interest that Dassault Aviation is in the client history of French aviation combat. We are committed to addressing the concerns of independence and sovereignty of the Indians, who want to build an industrial base already very efficient.

Finally, in Brazil, the voluntarism of the French president has the Rafale to be considered at the highest level by the Brazilian authorities. President Rousseff decided to freeze the procurement process in light of the global economic situation. We expect the resumption of the competition for 2012. We do of course not remain inactive and we again, because this is the ambition of the Brazilian authorities, multiplied agreements and technology partnerships, academia and industry to ensure our Brazilian officials will fully transfer the know- how and technologies that ensure the strengthening of Brazil's sovereignty over its air force.

What about the Swiss decision?

The military authorities Helvetian, through a rigorous process of assessment, have acclaimed the Rafale for the adequacy of its performance in terms of their business need. Moreover, the report published in the Swiss press emphasizes the rule of Rafale in its two competitors. The Federal Council has announced that he makes his choice to the Gripen NG, the lowest ranked of the three planes in the running. But the choice of a fighter is always a political decision that takes into account the quality of bilateral relations. Or these, you know, are not looking good right now ... [/B]

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redaing the last paragraph of thw wikipedia entry about mrca it seems that it would announce the finalist by mid december,,isnt it quite near mid december..? when wiill be the finalis announced?
here is a snippet from the wiki
On 9 October 2011, despite reports that a winner would be announced in October 2011, Air Chief Marshal Norman Anil Kumar Browne stated that India is first approving the finalists' industrial offset offers, and allowing each time to make a final bid. A total cost based on life-cycle cost, purchase cost, and technology transfer value for each competitor will be calculated. The two competing financial bids were formally opened on 4 November 2011.[110][111] On 18 November, Air Chief Marshal Browne said that the winner would be announced by mid-December 2011
 
redaing the last paragraph of thw wikipedia entry about mrca it seems that it would announce the finalist by mid december,,isnt it quite near mid december..? when wiill be the finalis announced?
here is a snippet from the wiki

Typhoon Tranche3 has been chosen with TVC and CAPTOR-E(2000+ T/R module version) AESA ... delivery starts from mid 2014 ...
 
wtf..source please buddy

after delivery of first 18 or a squadron more Typhoon ... rest will be manufactured in Bangalore ... with Indian Israeli and Russian inputs... cheers... will open my Blue Label when news will come on public domain.... and american got thr pie ... in total 24+ C-130 to be inducted coz ....Indo Russian .... MTRA gone haywired .. mostly coz Russian high pigheadedness ...
 

after delivery of first 18 or a squadron more Typhoon ... rest will be manufactured in Bangalore ... with Indian Israeli and Russian inputs... cheers... will open my Blue Label when news will come on public domain.... and american got thr pie ... in total 24+ C-130 to be inducted coz ....Indo Russian .... MTRA gone haywired .. mostly coz Russian high pigheadedness ...

ok then tell the numbers how many coming and what price ?
 
Typhoon Tranche3 has been chosen with TVC and CAPTOR-E(2000+ T/R module version) AESA ... delivery starts from mid 2014 ...

Well could be or could be not.. if you know all this, please share the info about nos of fighters and $$ per fighter..

Guys i just bought Gordon's book on su 27. Is there any other fighter about which reading would be great form some more info. Actually about this su27 also i came to know from pdf.
 
After Swiss and most likely Japan, now Oman rejects the Eurofighter!

Omani F-16 deal means continued wait for Eurofighter

Oman has placed a follow-on order with Lockheed Martin for a second batch of 12 F-16C/D Block 50 fighters, with the development likely to further delay the UK's hopes of selling the Eurofighter Typhoon to the nation...

...Oman has also been considering a possible Typhoon acquisition since around 2008. British sources had recently suggested that a government-to-government deal could be concluded with the UK in early 2012, but the nation's fresh investment in the F-16 could result in this being delayed further.

Omani F-16 deal means continued wait for Eurofighter
 
Typhoon Tranche3 has been chosen with TVC and CAPTOR-E(2000+ T/R module version) AESA ... delivery starts from mid 2014 ...

Fake reporting, but possible. I will go for rafale.
 
what about IAF's output regarding technical aspects of the two fighters (which one is better), besides the political aspects of the deal....??
 
well my friend there are no political aspects cause neither France nor England, Germany, Italy, Spain will help us in a war and as for technical aspects I don't think there will be much of a difference as both fighters are equally capable with one exceeding the other in different areas so it all boils down to which one gives an industrial offer more beneficial to the country and also who has more money to pay our corrupt leaders.:)
 
Avionews - Agenzia stampa del settore aeronautico, elicotteristico, aerospaziale e della difesa

These are decisive days for the Eurofighter Group, as its plane is competing in two major tenders in Japan and India. The first tender seems to have been lost, as announced yesterday by the Japanese press, having favored the F-35 Joint Strike fighter of which 40 units should be purchased to boost its self-defense, despite being more expensive than the two other competitors, the Eurofighter Typhoon and Boeing's F/A-18 Super Hornet.

But, it is still hoping and waiting for the decision of the Security Council chaired by the Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda, postponed from next Friday to Tuesday.

Another exciting event caused by New Delhi following a tender launched for military aircraft to be allocated to the Indian armed forces. In this case, apart from the Typhoon, the French Rafale of Dassault is competing; the Americans tender offer of the Super Hornet and the F-35 has already been dismissed.

The newly elected President of Finmeccanica, Giuseppe Orsi, said that he is confident in the choice of the Typhoon, and is representing Finmeccanica since it is participating to Eurofighter's programme, together with EADS and BAe Systems, of which it owns approximately 36%. Following the inauguration ceremony of the new establishment of its subsidiary Thales Alenia Space in L'Aquila, he said: "The Eurofighter is a very powerful machine. We hope that India makes the right choice". And speaking of a possible re-entry of the Americans in the competition, he declared that: " Indians have very rigorous processes, therefore I doubt the possibility of another candidate at this stage". (Avionews)
 
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